nclex passer = LPN

borik1234 · Apr 2, 2008

you're right suzzane,,,that why i talked already to my friend in the phils to stay away to the agency

lawrence01 · Apr 2, 2008

For everyone's protection, please do not post names publicly. You can share such information via private messaging.

Also, naming names privately is only one way and not all people believe something. The tendency is to believe on what they hear that is pleasing to them rather than believing something that is perceived to be negative even though it is the truth.

The best thing to do is to actually report it to the Canadian Embassy.

purplehippo · Apr 2, 2008

I agree with you about the very entitled attitude of some (not all!) Filipino nurses and students who post here, who seem to feel they are doing the rest of us a big favor by coming to our countries. A surprising number also seem to feel that it's somehow unfair that they should have to abide by the immigration rules and policies of our countries, and are very open about how they're looking for a way to "get around" the laws and regulations. Very annoying!

In this light? I would have to say something good came out of my sharing my concerns with CARNA. I was granted a work permit to work as a grad nurse, finding out that that I still have to do courses after assessment. My permit is currently running but I cannot do anything about it as like everyone else, I have to follow the rules.

Just recently I found out that the Canadian immigration does not grant work permits anymore that easily. They are ensuring now that this person can really work as a grad nurse already when they come to Canada, meaning, the aspirants should apply as tourists first. They should take the assessment, get the courses, find a hospital THEN apply for a work permit.

Good thing the immigration now is checking rigidly so that nobody else will be stuck like me... came on a work permit, finding out I will not be working.

I am currently doing courses as what CARNA instructed...and not for the sake of either... I am actually learning, and I believe these courses will help me prepare to writhe the CRNE when the time comes. I do not believe I am doing you guys a favor by working here. I am not using Canada as stepping stone either. I am called to be a nurse and I will do whatever it takes to follow my dreams. No shortcuts, I realize that now...

God bless you all!

purplehippo · Apr 4, 2008

I am sorry but I just had to add... Is anyone interested to hear from my friend when she arrives this month and work as an LPN in the ICU? I mean, you all need to know if this is all real and possible... NCLEX passer working as LPN without taking the LPN exam..

I will be glad to update you...

suzanne4, RN · Apr 5, 2008

Sorry, but your friend is in for a very rude awakening. If she has not written the Canadian exam, then she does not hold a license there and cannot work in the role of a licensed person in that country and will be subject to being deported.

And with knowing how tough that the Canadian system is, she is going to be working as a nursing asst, and nothing more than that.

The NCLEX license is not accepted in Canada even for an American to use there, so why in the world would they accept it from someone from your country?

Sorry, but this a bunch of garbage and nothing more than that.

Yes, please give us the real and correct story once your friend gets there, and I mean the truthful and legal one. It also does not make any sense at all as you find very few LPNs in the ICU as there is much that they are not permitted to do, so why would they offer the job to someone from your country when there are plenty of LPNs already in Canada that were trained there and hold an actual license and would love to be able to work in the ICU?

Sorry, but your story or your friend's story just does not hold anything credible with me or any others here, just does not happen that way.

And the next part of it is that the Canadians do not offer visas for LPNS, unless she already has a landed immigrant visa for another reason, she is not going to be working in the role of the nurse. She is being brought over as an unskilled laborer and nothing more and that is actually grounds to get deported from any country as it means that documents were not truthful with immigration in the first place, the same way that we are seeing LPNs that went thru those wonderful programs in your country getting deported over here for falsifying documents, even if done by the employer.

suzanne4, RN · Apr 5, 2008

No Canadian license written, no way to work in that job description.

If your friend truly believes that, she is really a sucker. And can find herself in grave legal difficulties.

Just wonder what else her wonderful agency is doing for her if she have lied 1000% percent to her about this?

They need to be reported to the Canadian Embassy as soon as possible and perhaps if you do not believe what I am telling you and you are seeing how strict it is for you to be able to get an actual license there, then how in the world is your friend going to be doing what she thinks that she is?

Suggest that you may wish to contact the Philippine Embassy in Canada and ask them and I am sure that they will back up what the rest of us have been saying to you.

The owners have that agency need to be prosecuted as slave traders, they are nothing more than that and definitely not helpful to anyone other than their own pockets.

suzanne4, RN · Apr 5, 2008

Practicing without a license also makes one subject to jail time.

borik1234 · Apr 5, 2008

thanks so much suzzane for info.,,i hope some of my fellow filipino nurses in the PI would enlighten to your opinion

purplehippo · Apr 5, 2008

I totally understand. I will just update you guys when she arrives and works. I mean, you guys need proof... we all need proof...

I looked up the agency and of course, it is based here in Canada...

suzanne4, RN · Apr 5, 2008

And this agency needs to be reported for what they are doing. And what they are doing is not legal by Canadian immigration. And I am sure that this agency knows that they are breaking the law.

If one does not have a license, then they cannot work in that role. And there are no legal visas to be brought to Canada to work in the role of the LPN, and for this slimey agency to tell someone that they can work as an LPN based on their US exam, is just a crock of you know what.

Licenses are only issued by the government and with certain restrictions to it, same as for visas. When laws are broken, it is going to hang the nurse that was involved. They will be the ones deported.

I am so sick and tired of hearing of nurses getting taken advantage of, and when they are that stupid and I mean exactly that, then they need to live with the consequences for their actions. I am sure that your friend is very aware of the government requirements for Canada, and if she is not, then that makes her even dumber. There just is no excuse for this.

All the way around.

And if you go back and read here, everyone else is of the same opinion as me and we cannot all be wrong. I just hope that your friend does not end up in jail for doing something dumb if she is gullible to believe what this company is telling her.

Again, this agency needs to be reported to the Philippine Embassy in Canada as well as the Canadian Embassy in Manila. I am sure that they would both love to hear what this company is doing. Even more so the Canadian Embassy as I am sure that false information is being given to them to secure the visa for the nurse.

purplehippo · Apr 5, 2008

Also, again, I do not agree with what they are doing. It is not right.

I have called the attention of my friend already. I am not in the position to stop her, but I just hope I have enlightened her about everything you all have written in here. I will just update you as soon as she arrives.

suzanne4, RN · Apr 5, 2008

There is nothing to really update us about since she is not going to be doing what she thinks that she is. She is going to be making one of the costliest mistakes of her life, but she is well aware of what she is doing and is willing to risk everything, and I mean just that; Everything.

I am going to go ahead and close this thread since everyone hear understands that there is the ability to work as a nurse in Canada of any type without writing their exam. The NCLEX does not give one a license in Canada, even if they are an American.

The original question of this post has been well answered. Thread will be closed.