A CRNA who is not a member of the AANA pays the equivalent of AANA annual dues to re-certify. With the recognition of other certification organizations, I can see a bidding war and people re-certifying with the least expensive entity. The AANA is acting and it even affects me... interesting.
This is from the NBCRNA not the AANA. This is an interesting problem. CRNAs are the most autonomous group of APNs there are, and we are the most unified and we have the most powerful organization of all APNs.
IMHO anything that takes away from the unity of our group is probably going to hurt CRNAs in the long run.
Sorry WTB, I have to disagree with you. NP organizations are much more powerful. AANP alone has 36,000 members. That is only one of the NP organizations. There are quite a few more.
As I'm a member of both AANP and AANA, it is easy for me to compare.
On the autonomous issue, that is a toss up. If you look at just autonomy, CRNA wins easily because even in the states where you are "supervised", in reality you practice independently because the surgeon is doing the "supervising".
If we are talking about legal statute for independent practice, I'm not sure on that point. 20 states + DC allow total independent practice for NPs.
Having two credentialing organizations will not hurt. Most likely it will help as we all know, competition is a good thing.
FNPs have two credentialing organizations to choose from. Works great.
Different tests but both are accepted and nobody cares what credentialing body you used.
wtbcrna said:This is from the NBCRNA not the AANA. This is an interesting problem. CRNAs are the most autonomous group of APNs there are, and we are the most unified and we have the most powerful organization of all APNs.IMHO anything that takes away from the unity of our group is probably going to hurt CRNAs in the long run.
nomadcrna said:Sorry WTB, I have to disagree with you. NP organizations are much more powerful. AANP alone has 36,000 members. That is only one of the NP organizations. There are quite a few more.As I'm a member of both AANP and AANA, it is easy for me to compare.
On the autonomous issue, that is a toss up. If you look at just autonomy, CRNA wins easily because even in the states where you are "supervised", in reality you practice independently because the surgeon is doing the "supervising".
If we are talking about legal statute for independent practice, I'm not sure on that point. 20 states + DC allow total independent practice for NPs.
Having two credentialing organizations will not hurt. Most likely it will help as we all know, competition is a good thing.
FNPs have two credentialing organizations to choose from. Works great.
Different tests but both are accepted and nobody cares what credentialing body you used.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I still hold to mine though, but from what I was reading the new bylaw passed and opened up the possibility for a new accrediting agency. Who knows the next accrediting agency could be better or just a way for the ASA to get a hold of more of our profession.
Yup, that email was from the NBCRNA and COA not the AANA. I have not seen where the AANA has issued a statement or a response to this e-mail yet. From what I can gather...and I may be way off base here...the AANA felt the heat from its membership to do something in response to the recert changes that the NBCRNA and COA slammed down our throats. The whole "period of discussion" where the vast majority of CRNAs wrote in against having to retake the exam was a sham at best from what I can tell. They had their sweet idea of implementing this new standard, and no amount of well written, logical letters was going to change their minds. Simply put, having to retake the exam does nothing...NOTHING...to strengthen the skills and improve the care that is currently being given by CRNAs throughout this country. All it does is drum up a ton of money for the NBCRNA and the COA and for all the test administration and prep-course entities associated with this certification process. Some argue that it is a way to bring our standards in line or parallel to those of the MDAs, but that is a weak reason for implementing their new set of standards. I work autonomously alongside three anesthesiologists. One is great and takes the time to tweak his anesthetic delivery to meet his goal of providing better service as time advances. One is great, but he is going to do what he's done since the 80's regardless of any evidence that better practices exist. One is terrible and basically gets patients through with total disregard to anything other than keeping them alive till he hands them off to the PACU nurses. Their model of recertification has no effect on their clinical delivery of anesthesia, and I'm sure that the same will hold true for CRNAs. The only valid reasons that exists to add burden and cost to maintaining certification is if that added burden and cost will produce significant improvement of clinical skills and knowledge across the board that significantly enhances the delivery of the care that we provide...or if the added burden and cost will help advance our status as providers within the healthcare system as a whole. The recent changes do neither of these, and the AANA membership is calling BS. The NBCRNA and the COA should make and enforce policy according to the wishes and educated opinion of its constituency, and if they fail to do so and implement self-benefiting policy that ignores the opinion of the majority of the CRNAs that support it's existence, they should be held accountable. Look no further than Washington to see what happens when governing bodies are allowed to do what they choose without the fear of repercussions. Competition and choice is always a good thing. I just hope that whatever evolves from this is founded on accountability, simplicity, and common sense.
Well. I just read that on the AANA site and came over here to say that I was obiviously mistaken. Too bad. If what they are claiming is and has been true this entire time, why the defensive e-mail from the NBCRNA and COA in the first place? What are the details behind the "frayed relationship" that they are mending? We can speculate till the cows come home, but does anybody know the facts behind all this friction and weirdness between them?
I am well aware of the credentialing issue that is coming up for an AANA bylaw change. This change is appropriate and is needed so that the CRNA credential stays an integral part of the profession. That can only be done by input from the profession--the AANA. Currently, NBCRNA can and has snubbed their collective noses at the AANA and CRNAs and nothing can be done about it. With the Bylaw fix, the AANA BOD can recognize other groups for accreditation and certification. We elect the BOD and have a say at the ballot box.
One more very important thought--NBCRNA has no business sending emails to AANA members regarding OUR bylaw changes. They are two separately incorporated groups and it is inappropriate for them to try to interfere with our (AANA) business.
If you are going to be at the business meeting, consider voting for the bylaw change.
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Got this in my email.. since I am not a member of the AANA I do not know where this is coming from.
Is the AANA's panties in a wad over the recertification plan? I think the recert plan is karma for the assenine DNP push. If this works out, CRNA's will have a choice of the certifying bodies they can choose there... Yup.. that will not cause ANY problems..
On the PLUS side.. This is such an esoteric subject it might be possible only CRNA's will post in a CRNA forum..