Published Aug 16, 2008
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I started there in the spring of 08. I quit after that term. In my 3 month experience with NAU they had changed the pre req's and other course requirments THREE times!! Before I even started my classes I was told that one of them would not be required but I didn't have time to change my schedule and if I dropped it, I would lose my Financial Aid. A friend of mine started working there as an advisor and behind closed doors, she STRONGLY advised me to get out while I still could!! She said that if you have alot of money to burn or get lots of grant money, the education was almost as good as a community college. However, for my Anatomy and Physiology final....the instructor printed off the wrong test. So, we all went over the comprehensive final as a class. We all got 100%!!! I couldn't believe it. The people were nice but that's not the kind of easy education I think prepares us to save lives:crying2:
I can't speak for the other campuses, but at the Denver campus, we have some very competent instructors. The director of our nursing program is one of the advisors to the council that writes the NCLEX exam (so I was told, anyway), so maybe it's something local to the KC campus. I am sorry you had such a horrible experience; there ARE some schools out there only interested in getting money from their students, but our nursing staff seems to be genuinely interested in producing good students.
I have been hearing some info about NAU here in Denver I was told about 3 1/2 yrs ago they had a nursing program but the admission lady was lying to me and they actually DIDNT have the program up and running and tried to place me in another program but I hate to say it admission reps for these schools are always "shady"
Someone told me that they might be getting NLN accrediation which if they do is impressive. I would love to find out the price of the progam:) and the length
I am currently attending Nau to complete my pre-reqs. I like my classes as of now but I am hearing from other students that once into the nursing program they have a lot of out of pocket costs. These costs have come up because the loans will not cover all of the tuition amount because it is so large.
I was wondering if anyone has had this problem as well?
Thats what i hear but am in my third quarter and i have not experienced it yet.
Private college is expensive!
I attened the NAU nursing orientation and they very clearly go over all of the costs and requirements. Honestly, after 2 years at Inver and dealing with what HAS to be the worst admin staff in nearly every department (not the teachers), I find NAU to be very organized! They opened with only 24 spots, however, they only had 16 qualified people apply so they aren't even running at full capacity. They expect 70 applicants this fall for those 24 spots this year. The school is very nice inside...they put alot of money into it and you can tell!
As a former faculty member at NAU, I cannot recommend it. It was my very 1st teaching job & I was told that I would be observed each semester by the Dean. I was never once observed my whole time there (2+ years). So - without any proof that I could teach, they let me loose to do my thing. Naturally, I think I can teach, but they shouldn't have taken that for granted. And they wouldn't have, if their students' education were actually a priority.
I taught Advanced Composition, and the students who came into my class had to pass Composition 1. Well, many of these students wrote papers without verbs in them. They didn't know what a topic sentence was. They didn't use spell check. How on earth did they pass Composition 1???
I also taught Speech. One important component in Speech is to get up in front of a group & give a speech. Another important piece is to provide feedback to those giving speeches. There was a student who signed up for my class & couldn't attend any of them. The Dean suggested that the student just come in and give their speeches to him & that I give the student a grade. I told the Dean that I couldn't ethically give a grade to speeches I didn't hear, nor could I let someone in the class who wasn't ever in class. It might have been different for a writing course, but for Speech, attendance was crucial to success. I believe the Dean passed the student anyway. I wonder if the student learned anything???
While at NAU, I noticed that MANY students were "encouraged" to take a full-time schedule of classes. For most, this was not a good option, they were working 1-2 jobs, were single parents, or just weren't ready to attack college full-time. At NAU, it seemed like all they were interested in was getting money & processing their students - the quality of education wasn't a concern. As a result, I think a diploma from NAU is a very expensive, useless piece of paper.
It may not be like this at all campuses, but this was my experience. My best piece of advice for you is to go to the places you want to work when you graduate & ask them how much value they give a degree from NAU. because in the end, you need to go to a school that is considered to be good by your future employers. Just ask: are graduates from NAU considered competitive in your company? What schools do you like to hire from?
And remember, you get out of your education what you put in to it. If you don't feel challenged, demand better. Schools are there to provide a service to you.
In Colorado NAU has a 90% pass rate (on the NCLEX) most students pass within 75-80 questions so you know what that means? It means their a teaching the correct material to pass that test.
A lot of students are switching from CSU just to attend NAU and it's not because of our waiting list. Students that take pres at NAU have seniority over students that transfer in. It's because NAU has a 15 month AA course (crammed yes) that teaches you exactly what you need to know.
I've run into many graduates from NAU that work at Denver Health, Childrens, Kaiser etc. I see more NAU and DSN graduates than CCD, METRO and CSU
To the x staff member most students take that Comp 1 online and cheat! Or they are transfering that english credit in from decades ago. Some of them even CLEP the comp 1 test which is simple multiple choice. I'm not sure what the pre reqs are in your state but in CA and CO as well as Arizona you don't need COMP 2 for nursing. This isn't grade school these are adults if they want to **** around in classes that is their business. Not to sound harsh but again these are ADULTS not kids college is not a place to have your hand held
Side note there is a Nursing Convention they hold in Down Town Denver. Nurses fly out from all over to attend same with students and NAU, CSU and Wyoming State were all in the top 10 (for passing rates) and this is coming straight from the boards
I have been reading these posts and it's very confusing as to whether or not NAU is a good nursing school or not. I have my Associates Degree with all my pre-reqs already from a Community College. I have my CNA and CPR. I'm in an EMT class this semester. I have been looking at NAU but after reading these reviews I'm confused. I believe many of you that say any school is what you make it. As far as the NURSING side of NAU - is it a good school to help prep for the ultimate state test and job placement? Please help - I want to start school as soon as I finish this semester. Thanks for your feedback.
I have also been looking into NAU. I have actually been accepted at Brown Mackie in Overland Park, but the program is about $350 pch. I have maxed out my pell and my unsub and sub loans and will still owe. Does anybody know how much NAU is pch and do they have night classes?
NAU isn't any better, I was quoted at something like $395 per credit hour for the nursing courses which are $100 extra pch than general education. They told me that their pass rate on the state boards were 100% so far, but what the guy failed to inform me that was for the first two years of their LPN program, when I was interested in their LPN-RN bridge also after this last class they are no longer doing. Their NCLEX-RN pass rate is as terrible as those at Brown Mackie, 64.71% in 2009, where as BM's pass rate have ranged from 52.63-66.67% in the last three years. The Kansas state average has always remained around the mid-80s, so I can't imagine either school can keep their accreditation for much longer if they don't seriously improve. Unfortunately for those attending that may mean that despite shelling out a rediculously large amount of money their education will be essentially worthless, credit may not transfer to another school and if they are about to finish they will be ineligible to take their boards (as they did NOT graduate from an accredited program). Basically it isn't going to be any easier on your wallet. Luckily I have all of my general education classes done and got into an LPN-RN program in a community college taking my expected tuition, fees, and book cost from over $10,000 at NAU to under $3,000. I'll have my RN, then BSN for the price of the one year LPN-RN at NAU. Depending on your individual situation these for profit schools are rarely the best route to go.
It appears to me that at any of those kinds of colleges (Brown Mackie, NAU), you will easily be accepted (THEY WANT YOUR MONEY). Where as at a community college you have somewhat of a wait period and that is enough time to get all your pre reqs done, take the Teas (NET) test and pass it, you are accepted in the Nursing Program and it is a whole lot cheaper. My relative that went to Brown Mackie (I said went) to Brown Mackie was so excited to be accepted. I worned her over and over again but she thought it was an easy way to get her RN and never spent a day of doing actual nursing work and didn't really want to either, she just wanted the RN pay. Well, a wake up call came to her when she didn't Ace a class and was told right before christmas "NOT TO COME BACK". Distance Learning Network and College Network want your money to (beware) they have contracts for you to sign to get you all wrapped up in a debt you can't get out of with them.
Just my !!
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