Anyone see tonights "ER" Episode?

[RNstudentBrian]

On tonights "ER" episode they have hired a new nurse into the unit. He is a "MURSE" or so he is referred to by the "Doc's".

He very confidently subdued a pt out of control and attacking a female intern. Upon witnessing this the several male residents/attendings were remarking how they were just shown up by a "murse". Oh, "but isn't he macho" observes one of them. They just stare at this persons comment and walk away.

Grrr.... aren't there any nurse consultants on this show?

I'll bet that that ANA doesn't touch this one with one of their famous letter writing campaigns.

[leslie :-D]

If you think this is offensive, did you check out what they are doing out west with the Heart Attack Cafe? Dressing up little 20 year old bimbos in "nurse uniforms" which are really lingerie...I guess you will know "male nurses" are accepted when they serve burgers in a greasy spoon wearing white Speedos with red crosses on 'em...

Heart Attack Grill - Home of the Double Bypass Burger - Taste Worth Dying For!

i didn't get the impression that men were trying to negate the female experience.

and it's certainly shouldn't be competitive.

i think it's a legitimate concern when anyone has concerns about their public image, whether it's gender-related or not.

i used to watch this show "strong medicine" which was another doctor show.

but on one show, they starred "peter" the np who was having having pictures taken of him to represent male nurses of 'rittenhouse hospital' and all others who saw these pictures. it was actually a very positive light, and was pleased they had done this episode.

leslie

[scholar]

I specifically remember the show having a black male nurse. What happened to him?

[mingez]

I specifically remember the show having a black male nurse. What happened to him?

Like I posted earlier, I think his name was Malik. And what was cool was the fact that his being male wasn't even an issue. It was matter of fact, "Oh yeah, Malik, he's a nurse."

[jov]

i didn't get the impression that men were trying to negate the female experience.

and it's certainly shouldn't be competitive.

i think it's a legitimate concern when anyone has concerns about their public image, whether it's gender-related or not.

is the female experience lingerie-wearing nurses?

your connections here are unclear to me

[Thedreamer]

Eh.. I am in nursing school. I am male. I am gay.

lets see.... he's a male RN, not the gay-male-nurse-stereotype, he's tough, not nasty/ugly

Do I sense the same lame duck stereotype about MURSE that you just labeled homosexual nurses? Cause I am gay Im not tough? I call BS. That in itself is yet another stereotype I am realizing I am going to have to deal with, even from my fellow MALE nurses. This is the reason I dont tell my class mates my private life You made it clear that being gay male nurse makes us more feminine in some way with your choice of sentence structure and wording.

Stereotypes are for ignorant people. Just like being a male nurse doesnt make you any less masculine, neither does being homosexual.

[mingez]

Eh.. I am in nursing school. I am male. I am gay.

Do I sense the same lame duck stereotype about MURSE that you just labeled homosexual nurses? Cause I am gay Im not tough? I call BS. That in itself is yet another stereotype I am realizing I am going to have to deal with, even from my fellow MALE nurses. This is the reason I dont tell my class mates my private life You made it clear that being gay male nurse makes us more feminine in some way with your choice of sentence structure and wording.

Stereotypes are for ignorant people. Just like being a male nurse doesnt make you any less masculine, neither does being homosexual.

That's a good point, but I don't think the poster was stereotyping gay men, but rather suggesting that the character wasn't the stereotype. If you re-read it, he was careful to say he wasn't the "Gay Male Stereotype". If he was suggesting that all gay men were not tough, he'd have said something like "He's not gay, and he's tough."

In other words, he wasn't saying that the stereotype of gay men being immasculine is true, right, or wrong. Instead he's saying that the stereotype of gay feminine men exists, and that the character doesn't fit that stereotype.

But again, I think your point itself is valid, and needs to be pointed out, but I don't think the poster you are calling out was endorsing that way of thinking, and that too needs to be pointed out.

[Thedreamer]

Hmm I didnt think of it like that :) Thanks a good point.

I will confess to being a tad jumpy on things like that. I have been fighting that stereotype since I figured it out in high school. Aside from my family who jokes about it, because I cannot cook, clean, dress, decorate or anything like that. :monkeydance: Id rather go hiking or play with my dogs at the park. In my last school (EMT) A student found out that I was gay by accident. For some reason he felt it important to spread that around.. And men dont gossip hehe. Riiight Well they ended up saying things like, "Ill help you lift the PT into the truck, I wouldnt want you to get hurt since youre delicate." Things of that nature.

I even got heat cause I want to be a RN. "Oh so typical a gay nurse, who woulda guessed!" =/ I mean cmon. Helping people is helping people. It drives me nuts that people think you have to be flamboyantly gay to be a nurse or else you just shoulda been a docter.

I had a PT last term that thought I was a docter coming in to check on her because I was male. When I corrected her error and pointed out that I am a nursing student, she quickly retorted with, "Oh, youre one of them gay fellas aintcha?" :uhoh21: I take less offense to that being that she was an old hag but I had to laugh. I know alot of you straight guys get that alot, so I can say that gay/straight alike need to be fighting this battle together Male nurse is a NURSE, not a MURSE.

[mingez]

Hmm I didnt think of it like that :) Thanks a good point.

I will confess to being a tad jumpy on things like that. I have been fighting that stereotype since I figured it out in high school. Aside from my family who jokes about it, because I cannot cook, clean, dress, decorate or anything like that. :monkeydance: Id rather go hiking or play with my dogs at the park. In my last school (EMT) A student found out that I was gay by accident. For some reason he felt it important to spread that around.. And men dont gossip hehe. Riiight Well they ended up saying things like, "Ill help you lift the PT into the truck, I wouldnt want you to get hurt since youre delicate." Things of that nature.

I even got heat cause I want to be a RN. "Oh so typical a gay nurse, who woulda guessed!" =/ I mean cmon. Helping people is helping people. It drives me nuts that people think you have to be flamboyantly gay to be a nurse or else you just shoulda been a docter.

I had a PT last term that thought I was a docter coming in to check on her because I was male. When I corrected her error and pointed out that I am a nursing student, she quickly retorted with, "Oh, youre one of them gay fellas aintcha?" :uhoh21: I take less offense to that being that she was an old hag but I had to laugh. I know alot of you straight guys get that alot, so I can say that gay/straight alike need to be fighting this battle together Male nurse is a NURSE, not a MURSE.

LOL. Yeah, I think all male nurses...be they gay, straight, black, or republican are all a little jumpy because of the silly notions the public at large has of the nursing profession. Heck, this whole thread is a microscope into how jumpy we male nurses/students are with the stereotype. So we, of all people can somewhat relate to your plight.

Personally, I'm a straight guy, from San Francisco who is now living in Denver. In SF, everyone's "Gaydar" is rendered useless because most gay men don't fit the stereotype. And the subject of homosexuality isn't an issue or even considered odd, but rather is thought of as matter of fact.

Conversely, people in Denver, especially men, are soooo homophobic, I was shocked when I moved here. Not even the last place I lived, Albuquerque NM (Which is surprisingly progressive), was as backwards as this city. I find myself constantly calling people out for the same ignorant stereotypes: ie "Just because a guy is gay, it doesn't mean he's going to be interested in you" , "Being gay isn't the same as being a nymphomaniac, etc. etc.

It's like I'm living in the 50's out here.

[CHATSDALE]

i absolutely hate the term MURSE, of course i dislike terms like lady cop, male nurse, etc...

as for dreamer, not all old hags are homophobic, maybe this is a little bit prejudical

[veegeern, BSN, RN]

I took a quick count of nurses who also happen to be male in my rather small, rural, southern facility. I counted 13 without even trying. If any of them are gay, then their wives and children are in for a big surprise sometime later in life. :icon_roll And their sexual orientation sure isn't any of MY business.

But I digress... My point was actually that I can't see someone calling any of them a "murse." These guys are "good ol' country boys." One's a rancher, one's a biker, one's a body builder, all but 2 hunt, and they all fish. Then there's the photographer and the computer programmer. They are sons, husbands, fathers, and grandfathers. Oh and by the way, they happen to be pretty darn good nurses, too.

It's a shame that the society that we live in needs to place labels on people so that we can't see beyond sexual orientation, gender, skin color, ...

[atwtrn]

i saw that episode. ben looked so familiar so i searched the actor's name. he played "sunshine" on remember the titans. i hope this character develops into a long term gig.

[Thedreamer]

Haha all good points. There was ONE male in my class last term besides me. This guy flat out told me it was ok if i am gay, but please not to hit on him.

The man was 250lb, and looked like he got eaten by a dog. Thats like me being a hot blond chick and him walking up to me and telling me to refrain from flashing him please. XD

P.S. HAPPY NEW YEAR!