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    BYUI's program is very very very very very very very very hard to get into!
    ...and that goes for any of them (they have 3).

    If you are looking for the same general area in Idaho....ISU is fairly difficult to get into the BSN program...mainly due to high GPA and the fact that they keep changing their criteria about every semester or so....
    If you want to do the step by step through ISU Tech...it is a little easier to get into than the BSN.

    In Idaho Falls, you can also do a step by step. I am finishing up my prereqs in prep for enetering the LPN program myself. At EITC, as long as you have completed your prereqs with a minimum 2.8 GPA, they simply place you in line according to your application date. EITC will be offering a bridge RN starting next fall, so theoretically you can go to EITC straight through until (if) you are ready to do a BSN. Then ISU has programs for RN to BSN that are fairly easy to get into.

    If I can help answer any other questions, please let me know. I worked in the BSN Nursing Dept at ISU for several years, so I have a pretty good grasp of all the area programs/requirements/value, etc.

    Julia

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    Ony one I know if is Excelsior. You do realize that you HAVE to get your LPN though, right? Be nice if nursing could be completely online, but not realistic.Gotta get the clinicals somewhere...

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    ADNs learn all the same actual nursing coursework that BSNs do. TH eonly difference is some more generals and a couple of nurse management classes. If you think the ADN program may be right for you...go for it!

    I was well on my way to a BSN program, until I became more and more horrified over the bureacracy...and they kept changing the entrance crietria twice a year or so. It was impossible to plan for it. Add to that the fact that there is no part-time BSN program in my area, and I decided to step by step it, LPN..bridge to RN...then there is a part time program available, for an RN to BSN....

    I initially started back to school in 1992. Needless to say it didn't quite work out at the time....but I've always had nursing in the back of my head, even though I've changed majors a couple times.

    Now that I've figured out a program that should work for me, I'm determined to see it through...


    Good Luck!

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    Well, I'm sure glad my school doesn't meet some people's criteria or I would never get in.....
    We have to meet a 2.7 GPA overall, with a 3.0 in the core prereqs. Once you are in the last semester of those, we are placed in line for admission according to application date. I switched schools because of the criteria at this school. The one I was at had a formula for admission that changed every year, and many of the changes were not grandfathered.
    The program I will be entering is designed for those who are going into nursing later in life and as a second career. ALmost all of us have jobs, families and very little time to study. It is still very easy to tell who is serious about nursing and who is not. The fact that some people are struggling with math (often after 10 - 20 years of no school) is irrelevant. They still have to pass the Dosage Calculations class. Which in, by the way we get in big trouble for doing calculations in our heads. We must work them out the long way on every page of homework and every single problem on every single test, as well as in class. We do not get credit for the problem otherwise. This helps people who think they can do it in their head (I am one of those) to learn the proper way to do the calculation. Our prof insists that we do it the right way all of the time, so when we do get the more complicated calculations, we have the method burned into our brains....

    We do have some profs that are easier than others. We still have to know the material to pass the class, whether they review with us to help, or not. Several people have already changed their minds about the nursing program after advising for the spring semester, when they found out just how much time/study it would involve. THe people who don't want it won';t last one way or the other.
    BTW, in spite of what some may see as our "easy" entrance requirements, we have a 99% NCLEX pass rate. So, the professors that help the students who are struggling must be doing something right....

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    Couple options to look at...the University where I used to work in the Nursing Dept had a couple of things available for generals...Depends on how many semesters you need to get rid of....They have something called "Academic Forgiveness" where you can get either one semester or one year (can't remember which) completely wiped off yor transcript when there is a situation like yours (Old, bad grades). Also, if you have any reason at all that you might be able to do a retroactive Medical Withdrawal, you might look at that too.....

    Good Luck! I was in the same situation....

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    Hi-

    One class that I plan on taking if I ever get any "extra" time is Spanish. I took it in high school (don't remember much) and its one thing that will ALWAYS come in useful in nursing in the U.S.....

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    Idaho Falls has its pros and cons.... I grew up smack in the middle of New Jersey, so I have to tell you there is some culture shock! I think you mentioned Swan Valley....ABsolutely beautiful there! It is also right in between Idaho Falls and Jackson, so you can still obtain "culture" if you want it. Not that Idaho Falls has a Broadway or anything, but we do have a very good community arts program, and they revamped our old theatre a number of years ago, and bring some pretty big names in. We went to a Ray Charles concert a couple years before he passed away..it was dynamite! and we saw Manhattan Transfer and several other recognizables...it is especially fruitful if you like country (bleh!) music.

    Land is Swan Valley is relatively cheap, especially compared to other states/areas. It is going up rapidly though, as people have been discovering how gorgeous it is. The Idaho Falls area in general has pretty good real estate prices.

    NUrsing jobs here are available, but are not in nearly the dire straits that a lot of areas are. YOu will not find hugely competitive wages here. In general the wages in Idaho all suck. But its all relative. The cost of living is somewhat cheaper here, and nursing of course pays better than a lot of things. There do always seem to be jobs open at both hospitals. From what I've been told by people who have already gotten through a program and are working, the pay, perks, benefits, and overall attitude/environment is much better at MOuntain View Hospital than at Eastern Idaho Regional Medical Center. There are also other hospitals within a (reasonable?) commute, depending on how far you are used to travelling....

    Hope some of this helps a little...

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    I don't know how stable the fasttrack program is now, but over the last few years they have had a terrible time retaining faculty, and have had a lot of turnover in administration there too. Honestly? it doesn't go much faster than just having your prereqs evaluated by any other program. They do try to be a bit more flexible about some of the courses you've taken, but that's all.

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    Quote from ayndim
    We are living near Phoenix (Surprise) and have put our house on the market. We are looking to move to Idaho Falls. It seems like it is an undiscovered gem with reasonable house prices, good schools and a safe area. And no Phoenix summers :angryfire . I cannot stand hot weather but love snow and cold. My problem is that I was waiting for entrance into the MCCD nursing program. I cannot seem to find a nursing program near Idaho Falls. I am thinking about trying for deaconess but it seems so expensive. And I already have student loans from doing my BS in another field. No matter we are Idaho dreaming.
    I don't know where you have looked, but there is actually quite a pool of nursing programs here. (Idaho Falls area) Right in Idaho Falls, is Eastern Idaho Technical College. (This is where I am currently attending). They offer an LPN program, and were just certified by the ID Dept of Ed to start an RN program next fall. They are just waiting to see what requirements the BON gives them. If you are looking for a program that gives you a realistic chance of getting in without going crazy, this is it. ONce you have all your prereqs done except the last semester, they just plop you in line, according to your application date.

    In Rexburg (25 miles) is BYU-I. It is not a public school, so tuition is more...but they offer: an LPN program. A start to finish Associates RN, and a bachelor's. VERY VERY VERY hard to get in.


    In Pocatello (45 miles) There is Idaho State University. Through the technical college there, they offer an LPN, and an LPN to RN.
    THrough the Department of NUrsing, they offer a BSN. This program is also inordinately difficult to get into. IF you happen to live in Boise, ISU also offers something called a "Fast-track" program, for people who already have a bachelor's in another persuasion. They also offer (in POcatello and Idaho Falls) an RN to Bachelor's and an LPN to bachelors. ISU is also currently the only source that offers a Masters in Idaho. Last I knew, they were offering a Family Nurse Practitioner, a Masters in Nursing Education, and were phasing out their Masters in LEadership...

    If you have any other questions about the schools and programs, I can probably help you. I worked in the Department of NUrsing at ISU for several years, so I have kept up on all of the local (and statewide) programs. Feel free to pick my brain....

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    I am currently working on a research paper on the state of mental health nursing in the U.S. (Particularly Idaho). Almost all of the research that I can find cites studies from Britain and Australia. My thought is that perhaps they can conduct such studies easier due to the socialized medicine systems there...
    Anyway, I need some help with sources for state of mental health and future of mental health in the U.S. It would be MUCH appreciated!
    Thanks.

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    Hi there-

    I too, have a similar situation. Different though, because of the time frame. I had a dui about 14 years ago, and have been paranois about how that would affect licensure. I finally talked to my advisor at school, and he laughed at me. Told me "If every nurse in Idaho who had a dui on their record wasn't allowed to be licensed then we'd have to kick out half of each class!"

    Course, it will still come up on the applications, but he told me I had nothing to worry about because of the age. Where you've only had a couple years past that, it might be different, but as long as you are clean otherwise, I would bet they won't hassle you too much. Where I live there is a possibility that I will have to go plead my case with the BON first, but I'm told it is largely a formality. Hope this helps.

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    Hi from another Idahoan student...

    Most of the posts I see on here, are from the south and the east when they are identified....I was starting to think I was the only poor soul *stuck* out here in the boonies!

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    I have definitely seen male nurses treated differently around here, but if anything I've seen them as victims of reverse discrimination.

    Where I live our community has very high numbers of people invloved in a particular religion, that promotes obedience, etc. of men.

    So the male nurses around here are treated as if they have a much higher status then the female nurses.

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    Congrats! Although....I have to thank the powers that be that my nursing program does not require calculus!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote from celestlyn
    I've been an LPN for 20 years and have always considered myself a nurse. Some RN's don't care for LPN's and will do their best to make you feel like and aid. Other's are great and treat you with the respect you are due. As an LPN, it is your job to conduct yourself in a manner that leaves no doubt that you are a nurse. When asked what I do, I say I'm a nurse. If I were an RN I'd probably say I was an RN, but at this point I see no reason to point it out unless I'm asked. Some people will ask me what the difference is between an RN and an LPN and I laugh and say, "About $15. an hour!" I'll tell them that LPN's do meds, but I don't do some IV meds and I don't hang blood or manage central lines. I'll let them know that I do most nursing procedures. It is an irritation to me that the nurses association (the union) in my state does not recognize LPN's. If we want to unionize, we have to join with the kitchen and janitorial staff to do so. At my hospital the kitchen and janitorial staff has chosen not to unionize, so I always feel like my position is vulnerable.
    It's not even a matter of "considering" an LPN to be a nurse. LPNs are nurses, period. We have to be licensed by the Board of nursing in each state. I know I'm not struggling through 2 semesters of A&P so I can be a mechanic! There is somethign worng with a Nurses Assoc that doesn't recognize LPNs.

    One unfortunate thing that comes up with those who now have advanced degrees is that cattiness so common among a lot of nurses....They figure if they had to struggle through school then everybody else should have to, or isn't quite as good as they are. It is the people that have that mindset who are often in charge of the associations, etc.

    Last time I checked, our Board of Nursing had at least 3 LPNs sitting on the board. (Out of maybe 10 or so). That says to me that LPNs are nurses....

    This is such a stupid debate. LPN do the base level (and most patient involved) care. Sure, there is a distinction with each new education level achieved, but that doesn't change the fact that LPNs are licensed as nurses. WHy would we have to carry malpractice insurance if we weren't? WHy would we have to be licensed by the state if we weren't? WE aren't out there distributing candy to people...

    Where I live, probably half of the RNs started out as LPN. Once they've gotten that new degree, everybody else is not quite as good as they are. Its unfortunate...but another way in whoch nurses "eat their young"....


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