ixchel, BSN, RN 55,798 Views
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I just looked at a typical billing rate for TMS and I am absolutely appalled that with your prediction of 45 treatments per week leaves you with a pay expectation of $20/hour. Stop telling us what your overhead is. Stop trying to compare your anticipated income to what psychiatrists typically make. Either pay a nurse the hourly wages that a nurse should make, offer benefits, and give a competitive vacation package. Would you ever go into practice with a physician and offer them half what they should make? If you WANT a nurse, PAY for a nurse. You CAN afford it.
(I mean, seriously, the last commenter here is running a TMS program. In my observation, programs offering only one type of treatment (and hiring "coordinators", no less) exist because they're profitable.)
Also, for the love of god, don't hire a new grad nurse. This would be career suicide for a desperate new grad who would accept any offer thrown at them just to start working, especially if they continue to work for you for a long time.
God, I'm going to have this thread rattling in my brain for awhile now. Just when we've been working so hard toward better respect between different types of healthcare licenses, stuff like this still happens.
But the topics of staffing levels and nurse education and their effect on mortality rates are mutually exclusive and should have been examined in that way if the authors really wanted to imply that RN education levels affected patient outcomes.
Maybe if you take sociology of nursing or theoretical foundations of nursing, you'd actually have half a clue what you're talking about. I further add that maybe a course in research would be helpful as well.
I'm working with BS students now. You know what they're learning? "early signs of sepsis, diabetes complications or new wound healing methods or new methods to accelerate healing and speed recovery"
Literally. Our juniors are learning this during this semester.
Speaking of people crawling out of their cubby-holes, hi, everyone. Nice to pop in again.
AS1, always nice to be dragged back yet again by you. Thanks for the email notification on a 4 year old thread.
You know, you all remind me of high school. No, not even that. It's more like middle school. Guess what? I do not live my life based on what other people think of me or what they think I should do. Never have, never will. It's incredibly liberating - you all should try it sometime. Especially since I see posts on this forum from many students, RNs, and NPs who agonize over what other people think, even making career choices based on what their peers say, as opposed to going with their heart, only to end up regretting their choice.
Now, since I have a lot of prior career success, let me share something with you. Women (and most of you are women) really handicap themselves by trying to be "good girls," "nice," "modest," and "get along with everyone." That attitude is why women often do not get paid equally to men or get promoted as quickly as men. At work, men do not try to be humble or obsess over what their peers think. They think not if they CAN do the job, but if they COULD do the job. Once I adopted that mindset I started getting paid as much or more than my male counterparts and my career path started on a steep upwards trajectory.
My original post started very clearly that I am nothing special. Go and reread it. As people began criticizing me, I defended myself. Somehow, that just made some of you even more upset. Why? Because I did not kowtow to you?
I AM a very accomplished person. In order to get a job, one must interview well and sell oneself and one's accomplishments. I don't go into an interview trying to downplay myself. If I did, I would not have received any job offers.
What seems to bother you all is that I am self-aware. I know my strengths and also know my weaknesses. I am comfortable with who I am and proud of my achievements. I am not going to downplay that in order to make members of the collective hive mind here feel better about themselves.
Now, I am going to get another cup of coffee and go work on my deck overlooking the beautiful Pacific Ocean in Southern California.
I see posts on this forum from many students, RNs, and NPs who agonize over what other people think, even making career choices based on what their peers say, as opposed to going with their heart, only to end up regretting their choice.
I found nursing school was WAY more demanding of every little bit of my time (while I had little kids and a husband to acknowledge from time to time), which was horribly stressful. The first semester really was the worst, although my second one drew some tears a couple of times (mostly because I was so exhausted).
Regarding post-graduation, I found my first year as a nurse to be the hardest thing I've ever done in my entire life. It was awful. I found writing about it to be cathartic, especially here. Here are a couple of articles I did:
So to answer your question, they are both extremely stressful, but they are apples and oranges, in my opinion. I don't think I'd like to go back to either one. My mantra for both then and now is, "you have to go through this to get through this." I am very happy I am a nurse now. I regret none of it, even in times when I've hated it.
Is this a for-profit school?
I learned very, very quickly that you can't save patients from themselves. That, to me, was no big deal. The hardest thing? When the patient DOES want to save themselves, but there are literally no resources available to make them successful at it.
3 weeks ago, one of the guys in my cohort shot me a facebook message. He asked me where I bought my stethoscope.
He sent me his number so I could text him.
"We can study together as long as you don't distract me"
On Thanksgiving Day he texts me "Happy Thanksgiving!!" "Oh sorry that was for someone else"
He texted me a few days later to discuss some things about school. I made some small talk
Every now and then he talks about himself, but he likes to boast a lot.
"Yeah I live across the Maserati dealership"
"I don't know what I want to do when I graduate... I just want to make tons of money"
He also sends me photos/videos of random things he does daily... like pictures of his lunch, unboxing videos, pictures of his calendar, pictures of him driving home.
"Hey do you have the paper that is needed for the school badge?"
BY LAW, your facility is required to make reasonable accommodations, which includes allowing you light duty. For more information, you can look this up under EEOC's ADA online. Any conversation you have regarding this should take place in writing. Trust me on this.
Did you read the one about the Pa-arp?
There is a pretty large group on facebook actively working on this exact problem. They have one gigantic group and then small groups for each state actively working to create better legislative changes. They've been looking at recent events and they are even sponsoring a rally in Geneva that's happening on Friday. People are flying in for it, and IL legislators are attending. It's a pretty big deal. I know we're not allowed to link people to stuff on other social media sites, so I wont, but if you guys want to see things change and be part of it, that's a great place to be. Beth, if you're feeling strongly about making things better, maybe a link *could* be okay for this?
Keywords for searching in the meantime - healthcare workers protection act. They have a page and a group. The page is there to direct people into the group. The group is where the work is being done.
It's not just a facebook group. They are a foundation promoting education, advocacy, and aiming to have laws that *actually* help.
That's horrible! I am so sorry this happened to you. I sincerely wish you the best in righting this wrong done to you.
Ixchel, there are no words. I'm so sorry.
Ixchel I am so sorry you are going through this.
ACTUALLY UM NO
I am responding to the OP only, without reading any comments first.
OP, last year I developed persistent insomnia that at its peak, ended in me going into a psychosis at the end of a shift, complete with hallucinations. Instead of taking seriously the report I'd made to my manager on two prior shifts stating that I'd been dealing with sleeplessness (and me calling out in between those two shifts), the man assumed I was actually high. I received no medical attention whatsoever. Instead, I received a drug test. My manager received the results before I did, and I was fired before proof of one controlled medication validly prescribed was requested.
That is just the BEGINNING of how my life was ruined by a person assuming I was on drugs. That was more than a year ago, and I am still knee deep in the massive pile of crap that dealt me. All they had to do was get me a doctor.
You do NOTHING. Absolutely not one damn thing.
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