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    I apologize for my delay in response... I had a busy week. I just moved into a new apartment, so between that and tests and assignments, getting on the internet is kind of my last priority unless it's for school work.

    But anyway, thank you! You do what you gotta do. It's not bad once it's all finally over. Just sucks when you're in the middle of it. But even so, it's rewarding to see the end result and are able to see how much you've actually learned. As for my birthday, it's on April 17, about 3 weeks from now

    And no problem, I needed something to help me continue procrastinating studying for my test last night Pretty sure I did well, so I guess it didn't matter whether I procrastinated or not.

    So I went through your message peice by peice and tried my best to answer all your questions... here it goes.

    As for the tuition reimbursement. Mayo does not do any sort of tuition reimbursement. The program is technically run and funded by ASU, Mayo just provides the facility and donates some of their nurses to serve as adjunct faculty for a semester or two. Mayo does typically get very good reviews. They're known for their excellence in patient care, research, and education. Unfortunately, they don't pay for you to go to school and they actually won't even guarantee you a job at the hospital when you graduate. You have to apply just like all the other new grad students. They typically do end up hiring more than half of the 20 students in each graduating class though. I think they like doing the ASU program because when it comes time to train the new grads, it costs them less time and money to train us because we spent nursing school learning off of their systems and equipment.

    I do know that several hospital in the Phoenix area do offer some type tuition reimbursement in exchange for committing to working in a hospital/department that lacks nurses for 2 years. I know that Mayo is not one of them, but during orientation we received several flyers with information on how to apply for the tuition reimbursement programs. Some pay for tuition, books, and general living expenses... but you HAVE to commit to working for at least two years in the state of Arizona. I personally wouldn't want to make that commitment, because like you, I'm planning on getting out of state as soon as I can (I actually applied to USC, looking to finish up my degree in Biology that I started before switching my major to nursing). But if you're okay with living here for at least two years following school and willing to work wherever they decide they need you in exchange for tuition, go for it. The catch is, if you break the contract, they make you pay all the tuition money they gave you back Hehe sneaky.

    Tuition can do that to you... the best advice I have for you regarding tuition is apply for as many scholarships as you possibly can, apply for student loans, federal grants... whatever you can get. You can always pay it back when you graduate if you end up having to take out student loans. Not the best option, but you just have to weigh your options. Luckily, I pay in-state tuition at ASU (super cheap) and I received a scholarship out of high school that covers nearly all of my tuition and fees each semester. I'm not sure what other schools are associated with the Mayo Clinic... I know the major Mayo Clinic sites are only located in Arizona, Florida, and the original and largest (what they call the “mothership”) in Minnesota. I know the Mayo Clinic does not have their own nursing program and I’m honestly not sure if they’re involved in other universities’ nursing programs like they are with ASU. I honestly have no idea. Like I said, this is technically an ASU program, Mayo is just working cooperatively to provide additional opportunities for nursing education. Although, I do know the Mayo Clinic does have several summer nurse extern programs at a few of their sites. Not sure which ones, but it would be something to look into once you’re in nursing school. Another thing to consider, nursing programs are extremely different depending on the school. The requirements can be very different (I know some nursing programs require more advanced science courses than the program at ASU does) and some courses may not transfer correctly. For example, the courses our program requires you to take during your Freshman and Sophomore year are extremely specific and you probably wouldn’t have taken them at other universities (they have us take classes like “History of nursing and current healthcare systems in the U.S.” and “Clinical Healthcare Ethics”). So my advice as to finding a program would be to figure out which schools you’re definitely interested in and then find out what their program requirements are. Nothing sucks more than taking a bunch of classes for a program they don’t even apply to. Also, try your best to keep your grades up! Nursing school is extremely competitive, especially if you want to transfer… so keeping that GPA up will be very helpful. All of my class at Mayo had a 4.0 or close to it when we applied for the upper division program.

    And just some advice for you in regards to taking EMT classes over the summer… I had the same general idea and wanted to get some certification so that I could work in the healthcare field while pursuing my nursing degree. I spent my money and spent my time taking classes to become a CNA. While I enjoyed the classes and the experience I gained through the course during my freshman year, I still to this day have been unable to get a job as a CNA. I’ve only gotten two interviews and have probably applied for nearly 300 positions over the last 3 years. My resume is pretty good, but unfortunately, this is what happens when it comes to getting a job in a healthcare-related field. I’ve heard this from people trying to get all sorts of jobs, new-grad RNs, CNAs, ultrasound techs, dialysis techs, and the list goes on. I’m not sure if this is different in states other than Arizona… but unless you know someone, most healthcare-related employers want new-hires to have at least a year of experience so they don’t have to spend the time and money training them. So it makes it extremely hard for people like you and I (who have just recently obtained a certification) to get a job. Plus, if you’re in school, employers typically know nursing students have crazy schedules and don’t necessarily make the best employees. So before you take the EMT course, make sure to take that into consideration. I’d hate for you to waste your time and money and end up without a job like I have. Definitely weigh your options and make sure you have a good chance of getting hired to makes sure it’s worth it to take the EMT course. Just a heads up… both from my personal experiences as well as what some of my friends have also experienced trying to get a job.


    To answer your questions, yes I started at ASU right out of high school. I graduated from a local high school in May of 2009 and began at ASU in August 2009. I had originally majored in Biology because I wanted to (and still do) go to medical school. But I changed my major to nursing because I wanted to guarantee myself a job in patient care, just in case medical school didn't work out. In addition, I wanted the hands-on patient experience NOW, not wait until my 3rd year in medical school. So I switched over in my first semester of college. I basically jam-packed my schedule, taking 18 credits a semester to include both the nursing courses as well as any of the medical school prerequisites I could squeeze into my schedule.

    I'm not sure where I mentioned taking nursing courses before starting upper division... but I was probably referring to the "HCR" courses we are required to take(stands for Health Care Related). Like every major, we're required to take "general studies" courses, but they decided to make our general studies courses specifically relate to nursing. So instead of being able to take some class like "The History of Rock" for our history general studies credit, we take a class related to nursing in particular.

    Basically the way our program works, you're considered a "nursing" major through all four years of your degree. The way our program works is the first two years (freshman and sophomore) are spent as a "pre-nursing" student, in which you take all the prerequisites for the upper division program. Then you had to apply for the upper division program (they recently changed this... now if you get accepted into the program as a freshman, you're guaranteed an upper division spot). The upper division students (typical "nursing" students, junior and senior year) take nursing specific courses where each semester's credits are split into half theory courses and half clinical courses. The last two years is where all the "technical"-type nursing training occurs.

    To give you the specifics of the program at ASU, I'll give you a list of the courses required before entering the upper division program (# of credits in the parenthesis):
    Science Courses:
    BIO 201: Human Anatomy & Physiology I/Lab (4)
    BIO 202: Human Anatomy & Physiology II/Lab (4)
    CHM 101: Introduction to Chemistry/Lab (4)
    HCR 240: Human Pathophysiology (4)
    MIC 205: Microbiology (3)
    MIC 206: Microbiology Lab (1)
    College Fundamental Courses:
    ASU 101: The ASU Experience (1)
    ENG 101: First Year Composition (3)
    ENG 102: First Year Composition (3)
    MAT 142: College Mathematics (3)
    Statistics
    Elective
    Healthcare-related Fundamental Courses:
    CDE 232: Human Development (3)
    Humanities/Fine Arts (3) OR Social Behavioral Science (3) [General Studies]
    NTR 241: Human Nutrition (3)
    PGS 101: Introduction to Psychology (3) [General Studies]
    Nursing-Specific General Studies Courses:
    HCR 210: Clinical Health Care Ethics (3) [General Studies]
    HCR 220: Introduction to Nursing and Healthcare Systems (3) [General Studies)
    HCR 230: Culture and Health (3 credits) [General Studies]

    To answer your question about the oncology ward... Oncology isn't considered a speciality in itself like Pediatric Nursing or Psychiatric nursing. There's oncology floors in adult health and in pediatrics... all just depends on the hospital you're in and whether or not they do oncology. I was on the oncology floor during my adult health rotation. For me, that's just not something I'm interested in at all. Oncology is just a little too sad for me and all of the patients typically require everything to be very sterile... meaning you have to gown up every single time you enter their room - which you will end up hating. And most of them have been in the hospital for so long that they aren't happy campers. Some can be very friendly, have very good attitudes, and can make great patients that are very entertaining to work with and talk to. But from my experience, I found that most were at the point where they just wanted nothing to do with the hospital and were exhausted most of the time and just wanted to sleep. If oncology is something you're interested in, you can definitely get the exposure while in nursing school. It doesn't require additional schooling, you can work in oncology with a BSN, but it does require additional on-the-job training when you start on the floor, as there's a lot of additional things to learn because you're typically the one to administer chemotherapy and there's a lot of safety issues you need to be aware of when working with oncology patients due to their supressed immune systems and health problems, side effects that come with the treatments that are unique to cancer treatments, as well as procedures that you probably won't see very often on a normal med-surg floor.

    So the reality of nursing school is basically this: you have to be committed and you have to really want to be a nurse to get through school. It's tough, it's stressful, and it's not something I would do unless I was 100% sure it's what I wanted and was passionate about it. It really is a unique college program. It requires more time than any other bachelor degree that a university will offer. And it definitely takes a special kind of person to do it. So think long and hard about the decision and make sure it's something you really want to do before beginning the journey and taking on the task of completing your degree. If you're going to do it, you gotta just go for it. It would really suck to get half way through and quit because of the time and energy it takes up. So if you start, make sure you finish. Nurses are constantly needed... and although it may be difficult to find a job directly out of school, it will be well worth it once you're able to begin your career and get started.

    If you have any other questions I can answer, just ask! I'd be more than happy to answer them whenever I have the time to!

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    Hi Ranaynay!

    I don't mind answering your question (and I honestly can't believe that was all written well over a year ago!)... If you don't mind me wondering, why do you ask? Anyways, here it is!

    I am currently in the upper division nursing program at ASU as planned. I completed and submitted my application for the summer 2011 start date and selected the Mayo Clinic Hospital campus as my first choice. After talking with some other pre-nursing friends prior to submitting my application, my advancement score seemed to be very good in comparison to friends or other applicants they knew of, so luckily, I was confident I would AT LEAST get into the program at the Downtown campus, if not at the Mayo Clinic Hospital campus, so it made waiting for the decision letter much easier.

    Sure enough, I found out at the end of March I had been accepted into the program at the Mayo Clinic Hospital campus. I finished up my Spring Semester with all As and one B+ (I was taking 18 credits, including Organic Chemistry and General Biology in addition to the required nursing classes, so it was intense!) and started my first semester of the upper division nursing program in mid-May, about a week or two after the spring 2011 semester ended.

    It was definitely a whirlwind getting started. The program started off slow (we worked on "therapeutic communication" for like... 3 weeks or something ridiculously insane like that), but eventually became very crazy, as nursing school is known for. I quickly got to know the 19 other students on the Mayo Campus and of course, we bonded very quickly. We all know each other extremely well (although we lost a classmate during the fall semester and gained a new one in the spring) and can practically introduce each other each semester when our new clinical faculty first meet us and make us go through basic introduction for two hours at the start of our orientation.

    Being in such a small class definitely has its benefits, but also has its downfalls.

    As for the pitfalls of being in a class of 20 at Mayo...
    Let's just say... you CAN NOT get away with skipping a lecture. As soon as it starts, EVERYBODY knows EXACTLY who's missing! Teachers notice too. Prior to entering the upper division program, I probably skipped about 40% of all my lectures - I have ADHD and really struggle to focus in a lecture, so I typically teach myself the material when I prepare for the test, the lecture doesn't do much for me. So that's been a rough adjustment for me. I've been in class more than I have at any time in my life.

    Also, while I LOVE all 19 of my other classmates, if your personality doesn't mesh well with someone, it can suck because you see them nearly everyday all day and there are plenty of group projects to get done in which you don't always get to pick who you work with. And among the 20 of us, we are a very diverse bunch... nearly half of my classmates are second degree students, we have a few mothers in our group, started off with 4 male students but now have 3, the majority of our class is in their late 20s, 30s, and a couple in their 40s, and only 5 of us would be considered the "typical" type college student (meaning we went to college immediately following high school graduation at 18 and began the upper division program at 20 years old - and fun fact , we had 3 21st birthdays this month... 1 was yesterday, 1 is today, mine will be next month, and the baby of the group turns 21 in June). So with that kind of diversity we have a TON of different learning styles... some of my classmates like to get things done very early as soon as they're assigned while others (like me) wait until the last minute to complete assignments and projects (with the ADHD, I work best when under a time constraint, or "pressure" so to speak). So when it comes to group projects, if you have multiple learning styles in one group - it can sometime create havoc and cause a lot of frustration between group members... all of which, remember, you will see everyday and be in the same class for 16 months.

    It was also a really sad experience to lose a classmate. We're such a close-knit group that we were all upset by his departure. He ended up catching the bug that seemed to be passed around our class (I got it right before him actually) and he ended up getting REALLY sick from it during our Psychiatric clinical rotation (getting sick typically happens frequently in nursing school, especially during the first few semesters... I mean, you ARE constantly around people who are sick, so it makes sense)..Our clinical faculty specifically directed us NOT to attend clinical if we were ill so that we would not infect our patients (I personally missed 1 clinical day and went another day while still slightly ill). But because he was so sick, he ended up missing 2 clinical days and a test or two (which he had been allowed to make up due to the circumstances), but unfortunately made it impossible for him to pass the clinical rotation according to our faculty. So it was sad to see him go half way through the semester. At the start of the spring semester, we got a new addition to our class. She was definitely brave coming into our group half way through the program... I give her credit! I think it would be intimidating. But we all welcomed her with open arms - we're a friendly, goofy bunch, and we're very glad to have her!

    As for the negatives of the Mayo Clinic campus in particular... well, we're in the SAME EXACT ROOM for every single lecture in every single class. It can get a little monotonous. Plus, most the time, we all sit in the same exact spot (I've been in the same location since our orientation day prior to the start of the program). The lab and simulation lab are also attached to the classroom, so like I said... we're always in the same place - for 16 months. I personally like variety, so this has been an adjustment for me. The majority of our faculty are also nurses at the Mayo Clinic and work as "adjunct" faculty for ASU, so we sometimes have teachers for multiple classes (for example, 2 of our teachers this semester also taught during our first semester). So depending on how well you liked that particular teacher and your relationship with them, this can be good or bad. But like I said, I like variety

    Now for the BENEFITS of the Mayo program...
    Like I said, we are a close-knit group! We have a FB group page in which we constantly ask questions of each other and post reminders about assignments or coordinate group projects and such. I honestly love the relationship I have with my classmates. I've developed a few really good friends in the process. And whenever you have a problem or need help in a class, any of the 19 in our group would be more than happy to help if they can! Also, we've had our fair share of experiences and inside jokes. Makes for a good time, even during the most stressful times of nursing school.

    When I do pay attention in class, having only 20 students in every class makes lectures very nice! Classes tend to be more interactive than ones I've taken in the past. You're not intimidated to ask questions and the lecture can be catered more particularly to your and the classes needs. I find that lectures are more like a big group discussion than you're typical 200 person lecture that you find yourself in the first few years of college. Most of our teachers goof around with us a lot and are able to laugh with us when we get silly. I've definitely never had as close of a relationship with my faculty in this program as I've had in any other class in my college experience.

    We do as many of our clinical rotations at the Mayo Clinic Hospital as possible. And in comparison to many other facilities in the area, Mayo is an EXTREMELY nice hospital and I've noticed a big difference in the nursing care. For the most part (always with the exception of a nurse or two), the nurses I've worked with at Mayo during my clinical experiences have provided AMAZING nursing care (instead of care that teaches you what NOT to do) and have been very receptive to nursing students. In addition, all the medical professionals have been EXTREMELY nice and open to teaching, doctors included. For example, during my Adult Health rotation and my assigned day in the OR, the surgeon actually invited me to stand up close during a CABG (coronary artery bypass graft - an open heart procedure in which the patient is put on bypass) and actually took the time to talk with me and explain the procedure to me during the 4-5 hour surgery. In my second surgery of the day, the second surgeon was just as nice, jokingly asking me if I wanted to see a "lettuce" procedure next. Overall, my clinical experiences at Mayo have been extremely beneficial. Not to say I haven't gained great experiences at other facilities (I definitely have!). But the consistency of the quality of nurses and the facility itself was never as consistent as the Mayo Clinic.

    Now having only been in the Mayo program, I can't say exactly how it compares to the program at the downtown campus. But I've definitely enjoyed nursing school at the Mayo campus so far (minus the typical ASU lack of organization). I'm over half way through and will be graduating in August! We just finished up our OB clinical rotation and are now just getting into Pediatrics while continuing our Community Health rotation throughout the whole spring semester. We'll continue into our last semester this summer and do our Complex Care and Immersion rotations, finishing up mid-August!

    As for me, so far I've done well grade-wise. With nursing school requiring a 93% or higher to receive an A, I've received 1 B each semester so far (both of which were 91-92%). Hoping to change that streak this semester! So far, looking good - but I'm actually currently studying for my first Pediatric exam (which is why I'm writing this at 2:00am!). It's been tough, not gonna lie. Nursing school is a challenge no matter where you go. I've had my fair share of rough days and days where I didn't want to keep going. I've definitely had several nights filled with tears and stress and MANY all-nighters studying for exams or "competency testing".

    But so far, it's all been worth it. It feels good to be able to apply what you've ACTUALLY learned in theory courses to clinical situations in comparison to information you quickly forget in typical lecture courses during the first few years of college. Clinical is typically extremely rewarding and it always feels good to successfully perform a new skill you've learned in lab, especially when you nail it on your first try (aka my first IV start!). The hands-on aspect of nursing school is definitely why I chose this major. I've absolutely HATED some of the rotations (most of which I expected) and have absolutely LOVED some of the others (some that I didn't expect to like at all). I'll give you the basic layout of our upper division program at ASU (Junior and Senior years following the Freshman and Sophomore years in which you have to complete the upper division prerequisites) and the associated clinical rotations, so you get the idea because some schools refer to the upper division semesters differently. For example some use "block 1", "block 2", etc while we refer to them as Junior 1, Junior 2, Senior 1, and Senior 2. In addition, we typically have each semester split into two parts in which we complete different clinical rotations each half, so I'll just refer to each as Rotation 1 or Rotation 2.

    So here's the break down and a description of each rotation:
    JUNIOR 1 (semester 5 or "block 1")
    Rotation 1 - Introduction to Nursing
    - Preschool (health education project) and Well Elder (wellness plan) experiences, "communication rotation"
    Rotation 2 - Long-Term Care Nursing
    - Care of patients requiring prolonged nursing care, typically of the older adult, such as in nursing homes.
    JUNIOR 2 (semester 6 or "block 2")
    Rotation 1 - Psychiatric & Mental Health Nursing
    - Care of patients with a mental illness or psychiatric disorder, rotation divided into 2 unique parts
    Part A - In-Patient Facility
    - Care of patients requiring hospitalization and acute care for a new or previously diagnosed mental illness
    Part b - Community Facility
    - Care of patients in a community setting requiring immediate stabilization or continuity of care for illness
    Rotation 2 - Adult Health Nursing
    - Care of adult patients with a variety of medical conditions and treatments in an in-patient facility
    SENIOR 1 (semester 7 or "block 3")
    Semester-Long Rotation - Community Health Nursing
    - Care of patients in need of varying nursing care in a community setting, rotation divided into 2 parts
    Part A - School Nursing
    (my personal clinical placement, varied for classmates)
    - Care of elementary school students in need of nursing care while at school
    Part B - Correction Health Nursing (my personal clinical placement, varied for classmates)
    - Care of inmates in county jails in need of nursing care or medical attention
    Rotation 1 - Child-Bearing, Family, & Obstetrical Nursing
    - Care of female patients of child-bearing age during pregnancy, labor, and care of their newborn infants
    Rotation 2 - Pediatric Nursing
    - Care of patients (0-17yrs.) with a variety of medical conditions and treatments in an in-patient facility
    SENIOR 2 (semester 8 or "block 4")
    Rotation 1 - Complex Care Nursing
    - Care of patients in an emergency, requiring intensive care, or specialty care in an in-patient facility
    Rotation 2 - Leadership & Management Nursing ("Clinical Immersion")
    - Care of patients in the department of the student's choice (depending on availability)

    Right now, we are at the end of our Senior 1 semester. Thus far, here's how I've personally felt about the rotations.
    Introduction to Nursing:
    Pointless course when having already worked with people in situations where "therapeutic communication was needed"
    Long-Tern Care Nursing:
    Not for me! The conditions of the majority of the facilities is poor an the nurse-to-patient ratio is often overwhelming. Do not particularly like the type of nursing care required for the patients and don't particularly like working with the older population.
    Psychiatric & Mental Health Nursing:
    HATED THIS ROTATION. Definitely will not be a psych nurse! The nurses at these facilities were (for the most part) NOT interested in teaching and I was told by one nurse in an in-patient unit, "I'm not going to have you shadow me or talk you through my job because students never like this rotation anyway and you always have assignments to do, so go ahead and just interact with the patients however you'd like". In the community setting, the nurses were more friendly, but seemed to lack any sort of patience with the patients and seemed to use sedatives as a solution to all problems. By far the most stressful and exhausting rotation. Even with shorter days, I was always the most exhausted following these clinical rotations.
    Adult Health Nursing:
    Overall, really enjoyed this rotation. Was able to perform MANY of my skills (not all) and learned the most about the technical aspect of nursing care during this rotation. I enjoyed this age group better and there was always a large variety of ages, medical conditions, and type of nursing care needed. Found this rotation to be very engaging and beneficial to learning.
    Community Health Nursing:
    While the majority of my experiences have not been negative, the resources available to these nurses are pitiful and the conditions in which nursing care is provided is limited. I would not want to pursue a life-long career in this type of nursing, but have definitely enjoyed this rotation. Both school nursing and correctional health nursing have been extremely interesting and something I would consider doing perhaps toward the end of my working years as a way to settle down before retirement. But not for me as a permanent job.
    Child-Bearing, Family, & Obstetrical Nursing:
    Prior to beginning the rotation, I had assumed I would not like it. I wasn't into pregnant woman, the families, and was TERRIFIED by the idea of having to work with BRAND NEW, INFANT BABIES with mom and dad watching me intently. I was surprised to find that I absolutley LOVED this rotation! Surprisingly, I found myself most intersted in the care of the newborns, especially of those in the NICU! I absolutley LOVED my days in the NICU. I also enjoyed being the "baby nurse" for the mothers who were laboring. While I did not seem to like this as much, I did enjoy the nursing aspect of labor and delivery, although sometimes it was very frustrating and a tense environment due to the anxiety from the family, anticipation of the newborn, the possible complications that arise during labor, and a woman who is in EXTREMELY intense pain and is frankly... just a pain in the butt because she's in so much pain she can't communicate. My favorite aspect was the delivery of the baby, 2nd stage of labor, and the time immediately following the delievery of the baby, due to the overwhelming happiness of mom, dad, and family. Although, the couplet care aspect of OB nursing was definitely NOT for me. Too monotonous and no excitement involved at all.
    Pediatric Nursing:
    We've only had 2 clinical days so far and they've gone well. I'm not a huge fan of working with SICK children (I love kids, I worked at an after school program for 3 years), so the sick ones just get to me with all the whining, their lack of understanding of why they need medical attention, and their resistance to ALL nursing care. Although, I ABSOLUTELY ADORE working with the infants and babies, particularly under the age of 12 months. They are by far my favorite age group to work with, just like how I enjoyed working in the NICU.

    And the rest are still to come!

    To summarize the novel I basically just wrote, nursing school is tough and there's a lot to learn. But I've learned the most from the time I've spent in the hospital actually performing the NURSING role. It beats having a schedule filled with boring lectures and labs with lab reports. But, what comes with almost any nursing program are the EXCRUCIATING care plans in exchange for lab reports or worksheets, "concept maps" that are more difficult to try and format in a word document than they actually are to do, and the simulation labs that are always awkward and nerve-wracking because you're being watched and critiqued while talking to a mannequin But I wouldn't change this experience for the world! I am very happy with my decision to apply to the nursing program and my choice of the Mayo Clinic Hospital campus!

    While I probably went into more detail than you were wanting, let me know if you have any other questions or would like any other information on my experience so far in nursing school! Like I mentioned before, I'm curious as to why you were interested in my story! I'm not sure if you're a pre-nursing or nursing student, but I hope the experience goes as well for you as it has for me! Anyways, I hope my story was at least kind of what you were looking for! Time to get back to studying... look forward to hearing from you and would love to hear about your experience if you are a pre-nursing student or a nursing student yourself and if you have ANY questions at all, I'd be more than happy to answer them

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    Just got news my friend got into Mayo as well with a 5.720 Yay!

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    Thanks for sharing student1984 Still waiting to hear from my friend! I have my fingers crossed and hope she gets into the Mayo program with me! Congrats on getting in!

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    I just got my letter as well Mayo for me too with a 5.866! The person who said they got in with a 5.72... what was your full score? 5.72 what? Just wondering for one of my friends who hasn't gotten her letter yet! Congrats everyone!! Seems like everyone made out pretty well. Really excited to meet all my Mayo 20 buddies! Gonna be a tough, fun 16 months for us!

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    The anticipation is killing me! Just the thought that these last 2 years of college come down to this letter is driving me crazy! We've waited so long already, but these last 24 hours since hearing the letters got mailed out have been killer. Because now were just waiting on the us postal service instead of asu! Gah! I just want that letter in my hands already!

    I really do hope the letters make it to everyones mailbox today, or at least some of our mailboxes so we can all finally know the cutoff score. Unfortunately for me, my mail usually doesn't get to my house until at least 4pm, but can be as late as 6 and on an extremely good day the earliest is 3pm! Its killer because unless my mail gets delivered before 4 (which is highly unlikely) I'm going to be stuck wondering because I have class from 440-9 tonight! Ahh and then after that ill be headed to straight to the library to a study group for a big test I have on friday, stay up all night and then head to work at 4am. After I work its straight to a lab for me followed directly by an exam which means the soonest ill be able to make a trip to my mailbox will be after 3pm tomorrow! Ahhh! That would kill me. So I really hope the mailman is efficient and speedy tomorrow and manages to deliver this long awaited letter before 4pm!

    If not, ill be checking this site religiously during my class... If anyone receives their letter tomorrow, please, please, please share the cutoff score! Also, if someone on here gets an acceptance letter to mayo, please post on here to let me know as well as what your advancement score was! I don't believe they provide another cutoff number specifically for the mayo program, just an overall cutoff score. I'm extremely nervous about getting into mayo, so if anyone gets an acceptance letter today to mayo, ill be anxious to hear!

    Anyways, the anticipation is giving me a bad case of insomnia (if you couldn't already tell by the time of this post). So the more information you guys get throughout the day today, the better! I'm sure everyone else on here is pretty desperate for any sort of knowledge regarding the cutoff scores. Personally, the sooner I know, the better, even if I don't personally have the letter in hand yet.

    Best of luck to everyone! I hope that each of you has an amazing day that includes opening up the hard-earned and long awaited acceptance letter for advancement!

    Keeping my fingers crossed for each and every one of you! And once again, please share any information you can throughout the day as hopefully all our letters will slowly make their way to our mailboxes!

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    The anticipation is killing me! Just the thought that these last 2 years of college come down to this letter is driving me crazy! We've waited so long already, but these last 24 hours since hearing the letters got mailed out have been killer. Because now were just waiting on the us postal service instead of asu! Gah! I just want that letter in my hands already!

    I really do hope the letters make it to everyones mailbox today, or at least some of our mailboxes so we can all finally know the cutoff score. Unfortunately for me, my mail usually doesn't get to my house until at least 4pm, but can be as late as 6 and on an extremely good day the earliest is 3pm! Its killer because unless my mail gets delivered before 4 (which is highly unlikely) I'm going to be stuck wondering because I have class from 440-9 tonight! Ahh and then after that ill be headed to straight to the library to a study group for a big test I have on friday, stay up all night and then head to work at 4am. After I work its straight to a lab for me followed directly by an exam which means the soonest ill be able to make a trip to my mailbox will be after 3pm tomorrow! Ahhh! That would kill me. So I really hope the mailman is efficient and speedy tomorrow and manages to deliver this long awaited letter before 4pm!

    If not, ill be checking this site religiously during my class... If anyone receives their letter tomorrow, please, please, please share the cutoff score! Also, if someone on here gets an acceptance letter to mayo, please post on here to let me know as well as what your advancement score was! I don't believe they provide another cutoff number specifically for the mayo program, just an overall cutoff score. I'm extremely nervous about getting into mayo, so if anyone gets an acceptance letter today to mayo, ill be anxious to hear!

    Anyways, the anticipation is giving me a bad case of insomnia (if you couldn't already tell by the time of this post). So the more information you guys get throughout the day today, the better! I'm sure everyone else on here is pretty desperate for any sort of knowledge regarding the cutoff scores. Personally, the sooner I know, the better, even if I don't personally have the letter in hand yet.

    Best of luck to everyone! I hope that each of you has an amazing day that includes opening up the hard-earned and long awaited acceptance letter for advancement!

    Keeping my fingers crossed for each and every one of you! And once again, please share any information you can throughout the day as hopefully all our letters will slowly make their way to our mailboxes!

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    About half of my friends and the people I've talked to have marked Mayo as their first choice... but that doesn't say much because the amount of people I talk to compared to the amount of people who are applying is very small.

    To be honest, I have absolutely no idea what the cutoff for Mayo will be. My advisor says Mayo usually goes to people within the top 40 applicants (so about half mark Mayo as their first choice). So really, who knows what the score of the 40th applicant will be? It's just a waiting game from here!

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    That's definitely what I like to hear! At least someone's on our side!

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    Haha wow, you're right. That answer is extremely open for interpretation. Like I said, if they do know of a change, they probably "aren't allowed" or simply don't want to tell us until absolutely necessary or until they make an official announcement or something. That e-mail basically sounded like there were no promises... that there might be changes or there might not be. Ugh. ASU is not good at yes or no answers! And so the waiting begins...

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    I'm still slightly concerned about the Mayo Clinic rumor... I talked to some classmates after I read that post and a few of them said they've heard the same thing. It's making me very nervous. And to be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if ASU did something like this last minute, ya know? I feel like ASU has a habit of changing things last minute and then they suck at officially informing us of these changes. Most of the things I've heard about the program and changes made to it were first through rumor and then ASU would announce it days or weeks later. I just hate how unorganized this application process is because it leaves room to wonder and worry! Sorry, I'm totally venting... but this no Mayo Clinic program thing is really stressing me out!

    Jeremy, who did you talk to when you called? Was it just the person at the front desk or was it an adviser? I'm curious because if it was just the front desk person, I worry that she could have not yet been informed of a change... unless she checked directly with an adviser before answering your question?

    I think I'm probably going to go into the advising office and try to speak to an actual adviser about this... I don't feel like waiting and worrying for the next few weeks about a rumor that may or may not be true. And if it is true, I don't want to have to wait for weeks until they get around to telling us all. I'm sure they're probably going to avoid it as long as possible if the Mayo Clinic program has been cut because they know there will be many very upset students. They're so slow with any and all information on the application process. I seriously don't understand why it takes them over 2 months to let us know whether or not we have been accepted to the program. The longest part of the process is checking to make sure the applications are complete and check transcripts and TEAS scores... but after that it shouldn't take any time at all. Seriously, how hard is it to make a list of applicants from highest to lowest advancement scores and take the top 100 and send out letters?

    And if the Mayo Clinic isn't taking students over the summer, I want to be able to re-figure out my plans and I would also like to find out the next semester the Mayo Clinic will be admitting students into their program.

    Anyone else at all concerned with this rumor or feel the same way about this whole application process?

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    Oh yeah... good job NursingStudent21 on your TEAS! An 87% is awesome!

    The application packet said we should hear back in April... and knowing ASU I doubt they'll be very fast about any of this.

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    Thank you so much Jeremy!

    That's why I asked if anyone else had been able to confirm that fact... I was hoping the person who told us that had either been misinformed or misunderstood their adviser.

    That puts a lot of worries to rest. I'm really counting on the Mayo program for many different reasons and would be very disappointed if the Mayo seats were cut.

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    I agree with NursingApplicant... that better not be true because I made a LOT of changes based on the fact that Mayo was taking people for summer. I wasn't going to apply unless Mayo was an option. I'll be very upset with ASU if that is the case. They shouldn't go telling students that Mayo has 20 spots if they aren't for sure. And I can't see a place like the Mayo Clinic backing out right before applications are due.

    Has anyone else been able to confirm if it is true that Mayo is not taking students for summer?

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    Good luck nursingstudent21 on the teas tomorrow!! Let us know how you do! I'm sure you'll do fine! Take deep breathes and don't throw up in the morning before the test like I did. That's no fun. Eat a good breakfast and relax.

    Also, I don't think there will be 200 students applying... the cost of summer tuition was cause for concern for many people. I'm gonna take a guess and say that not everyone who went to the info sessions are going to apply. I sure hope not anyway...


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