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  • Apr 24 '14

    Yes!! nurses get fired alot. It's not always for things that would make sence for a nurse to be fired over- drug diversion, call outs, gross incompetence. Nursing is the flavor of the month club. If the 'IT' clique likes you- your in, when they don't like you- your out. And it can be for the those life crucial things like- you know more than they do (aka. you threaten the poor little dears) you are more experinced than they are(aka. you threaten those poor little dears) your patients like you( aka those poor little dears are not liked by their patients but that becomes your problem not theirs. als insecurity, jealousy) But don't get me wrong, they do dress it up where it looks and sounds legit. They scrutinize. everything that you do: examples: you don't 'fit'in( aka- the IT group is a bunch of inexperienced dumb a** and haven't a clue what your explaining to them. Case in point: a non diabetic, vascular, dialysis pt with hypoglycemic episodes for 2 weeks who the IT group figured and stated "She's does that all the time!!" When you dare to ask the Doctor, turns out the patient is septic, Doctor sends pt to the MICU stat.) You don't document the way they do ( you document LATE ENTRY @*** and the dissertation of events. You are picked apart like a peice of meat. But when you document like you are talking to a bunch of simpletons because you are so damn pi***d you get rave reviews on you documentation), your med timing is not the same as their(aka: you could take longer because you ask more questions or see a side effect they have missed for DAYs- pt is behaving strangly because their TOXIC, your doomed, screwed and unemployed), perhaps you care about your work( aka the It group doesn't and you make them look bad, so your gone before that happens. US vs HER/HIM) and the list goes on and on and gets longer as you are in nursing longer. Oh yes. Nurses get fired more than should be and for more reason than something legit.( this makes the IT group feel like they have done 'do diligence', like they are actively participating in the manatory reporting process. Like they will receive a Bronzed Turd Pin for their accomplishment. Yes nurses get fired more so than other professions. Why because Nursing attrack mostly women who feel inadequate about themselves and this boosts their fragile fair egos- The helping profession, "I'm a Nurse" As evidence by- allowing other professions/diciplines/fields come in, take over nursing, create a disaster and leave with bank accounts worth millions. If you look at the turmoil nursing is in these days- the evidence of this are abundantly abound. Like a bunch of Wedding Planners who can't decise on a theme for 1 Wedding, Too Many Cooks Spoil The Broth!! I have had Doctors say to me- Nursing creates it's own problems. How very true.
    Corrected spelling before the Bronze Turd recipients flame me. More important to spell correctly also in nursing.

  • Oct 12 '13

    Believe me - often we are blindsided and often we are attacked by management.

  • Oct 12 '13

    Please - don't tell me what works best for pain management. If I have a Rx from my doctor for a med and test positive for it, my employer can't do a thing about it. Not all who use pain meds get addicted. And for pt's with bone cancer NSAIDs are used at times in addition to a narcotic.

  • Oct 12 '13

    Quote from New_Man_Nurse
    So far I'm not impressed with 85% of the personnel in the facilities I've worked in. So far what Ive seen mostly is incompetence from Administration and RN's that are pill pusher's, mostly the bottom line is money for the physician's and facilities, and most of the nurses I've worked with.
    I hear your dissatisfaction w/ a profit-driven workforce. I too was there, but I quickly got over those feelings after I was "released" from my 1st RN job of 2 yrs when an LPN on my shift made a medically unrelated, non harmful administrative infraction. I would learn afterwards that mgmt politics was driving the issue, but for me the result was my immediate dismissal by "human" resources OVER THE TELEPHONE on a 3 way call the next day.
    I was thrown out of my position like a bag of garbage by "human" resources and my DON, who wouldn't spend an ounce of energy in my defense. Only 2 yrs later would I rejoice when I learned that that DON was fired the same way, for an equally invalid reason.
    This is what happens in a "right to work" state. This is what profit driven corporations do. To bemoan the attitudes of the RNs laboring in this system is to miss the big picture- people are slowly developing the attitudes of their bosses and employers, mainly b/c noone feels secure. And they feel insecure for good reason, b/c corporations make sure that workers know they are replaceable.
    Oh, and many if not most patients are looking for someone to blame for any little thing. They complain about and berate the very people who keep them healthy and alive, and actually expect good smiling service in response.
    So basically, it is people at all levels who are responsible for the "attitude" we see everywhere. Only when the country changes en masse wil things improve.

  • Oct 12 '13

    Yes, sometimes there is favoritism. I have been written up with out my side of the story being asked. The write up was already in place and then I got to tell my side of the story but it did not seem to matter.

  • May 29 '13

    Powerlessness. Some is perpetuated by the systematic forces, and unfortunately, some is perpetuated by nurses themselves.

  • May 2 '13

    I work in a hospital that has had Meditech for 5 years. I wish we had a better EMR, because Meditech is of the devil. It's great for finding information, but using it to chart and to put in orders sucks ass. The EMR at the hospital I just did clinicals is far worse, so I'm somewhat grateful for Meditech. It gets better with updates, which I wished were already included by default.

  • Apr 20 '13

    Nursing jut sucks these days not other way to say it

  • Mar 19 '13

    I'm an IBCLC and I'm a SN. I chose to complete Pathway C (or 3?). It is not a way to cut corners, it's a legitimate pathway offered. I worked with a mentor and completed far more than the 500 hours hands on clinical experience. Before even starting a mentorship, I volunteered with my mentor and the hospital lactation program and their support group.

  • Mar 7 '13

    If 22 Nurses and 2 Managers really left, there is no need to go into all of that.. Whoever is interviewing you is bound to have interviewed at least a few of that group. It's a small world out there. They might be interviewing you just off the fact you have that you are no longer working at that place.. They might be thinking "another XYZ reject, we'll take her."

    * I say "XYZ reject" as a figure of speech.. I am not calling you Reject in a negative way. Maybe you can flip into a badge of honor and explain all of the obsticles you overcame before finally getting to this stage of your life.

  • Mar 7 '13

    I understand that when things go not as expected, or people don't feel they got the care they deserve, they have a right to be upset. If it was due to a mistake a nurse made, I understand feeling it was the nurses fault. But I don't understand the "fire the nurse" over everything mentality.

    I was talking with a girl who went to the hospital thinking she was in labor. They kept telling her she wasn't, 3 different nurses apparently checked her, and said she was only dialated to a "3ish" She was sure she was in labor, a veteran nurse overheard and volunteered to check. Sure enough she was at a 7, and they had to rush to get things ready. Had they discharged her, she would have delivered at home.

    Understandably she's upset. But she kept talking about "those idiot new nurses", and other things. She does think the nurses got in trouble, the doctor and the veteran nurse were very upset. She was saying she's was going to "Follow up and she thinks they should be fired"

    I and another nurse were talking to her. We explained that while no one wants to be the learning experience, if you fire every nurse who makes a mistake due to being new, than you will be left with nothing but an influx of new nurses, because no one will have a chance to learn and become experienced.

    Yes, these nurses should be educated. Yes the situation should be assessed and things addressed, as it could have had a very different outcome. But I just get so frusturated with the FIRE THEM NOW mentality

    Ok, sorry vent over. I just needed to vent to people who would understand. Thanks for listening.

  • Mar 7 '13

    Quote from losbozos
    Help! I just got fired because patient said I was rude! Not so. My supervisor got 3 calls w/in a month re: my rudeness & putting pts down. I've been a nurse for over 30 yrs & know this didn't happen. I asked my boss if she ever got calls from pts & she said, "No". When I asked her if this seemed strange, she said, "Yes". HR also said I wouldn't be able to collect unemployment. I guess that's what happens when one gets fired. Anyone have experience w/ this?

    Yes, regarding the inability to collect unemployment part. While in the hospital fighting a life-threatening illness my employer fired me. Then i tried to apply for unemployment and was prevented from collecting that because the employer said i was fired for "employee misconduct". Because of that i could not stay home and recuperate and was unable to get disability due to this employer. So, sick as i was, had to obtain an RN job lickety split and pretend i was not sick, yet went to work sick for months on end. No one cared or asked why i looked so ill and moved like a sloth. Mainly because my job entailed traveling from home to home as a hospice nurse. Nursing is a very punitive profession. Most likely it stems from the inequities of being female. We do a lot of the work doctors used to do but i notice doctors are thanked in obituary articles, but rarely the nurse is. Also on television who really wants to watch nurses at work. Those who watch the medical shows are blinded by doctor's power and wealth. And male nurses are able to move up the ladder more quickly in this profession, possibly because they don't partake in gossip and drama the way females do. I have despised this profession from day one due to the lack of support for nurses and the double standard that exists.

  • Jan 7 '13

    Quote from dariah
    Yep, totally serious.

    "....both these interventions are required in New York State by both the sanitary code and the hospital code (Sections 12.2 and 405.21(e)(4)(v)(b), 10 NYCRR). Neither regulation exempts infants whose parents object to the practice. Since these treatments are mandated by state regulation, informed consent is unnecessary, and hospitals and individual providers cannot be sued for administering them. Conversely, a provider’s failure to administer these treatments could result in a citation. A parent’s refusal of these treatments can be reported to Child Protective Services"

    My only real problem with birth plans is that many things just aren't feasible at my hospital.

    Back on topic....
    ...the other day I saw a line in a birth plan that stated "I would like to be reminded to remove my clothing before delivery." *head scratch*
    It says can be reported but not that it has to be. That's sad. I'm an L&D RN an my last vit k. He wasn't to be circd do bleeding risks were minimal. Sad to force this on parents. When do we stop taking away rights and choice?

  • Jan 1 '13

    Quote from dariah
    What I don't understand is, if these women do enough research to learn what steri strips and saline locks are, then how come they don't research the hospital's policies to know if that's a place they'd like to give birth?
    I couldn't agree more.

    I did find it disturbing during the labor of my first son that the nurse kept insisting that I get an epidural "because I'd be sorry I didn't, and might want one and it would be too late." She yelled the part that I just typed in quotes. She went as far as to bring in the doctor who puts in the epidurals (sorry, my spelling isn't so good, but I can say the word). This was after I repeatedly told her that I did not want the epidural. I told that doctor that I didn't want an epidural and he looked around the room like "okay, so why am I here?"

    I ended up pushing out my son with the help of a little Demoral to help me sleep. I did about 10 minutes of pushing.

  • Jan 1 '13

    I believe that managers of today do not really see entire issues. I do believe that the managers of today have a hightened sence of entitlement. I feel alot of them put their faith and trust in a certain chosen few who have adgendas of their own that the manager fail to see. I do not feel managers stick by or support their RN's. I fell that the recession and the glut of new grads begging for jobs have only brought out the selfish evil "me" in the contemporary manager.
    I personally feel the opening blog is a" feel sorry for me" I'm the poor burdened manager. After being around nursing for 30 years- this crop of management that we staff nurses are forced to put up with is pretty poor. And it is this crop of management that makes me want to leave nursing and not with a good opinnion of the profession. Unfortunately, I'm not alone. Ive seen too many decisions to get rid of nurses for the most demeaning and outragous concocted reasons that we all know are not the truth. The getting rid of staff nurse with over 20 years experience to cut a budget- that hospital now has such a poor reputation that the providers I now work with will not send their patients there( and I never opened my mouth) I was quickly seen and widely stated- they don't have enough experience to the point where they are dangerous. I know of old nursing buddies of mine who a manager tried for 18 months to get rid of because of her age and cost of insurance benefits. This old colleage of mine had worked that hospital for over 30 years- yes, she is entitled to her pension and retirement benefits. Just like you managers would expect if the shoe was on your foot! Your younger nurses are not going to stick around that long - read these posts from younger nurses!! Your going to be forking more money out in orientation and recruiting than ever before- these younger nurses have no sence of loyality to you or any other employer. I say good, you asked for it, you got it. You have alienated us older experienced nurses with demeaning and disrespect to the point where just let us find a way out- we are gone and are not looking back. I know I'm not and I know plenty other who aren't either. We don't want to help teach this younger generation or you either for that matter- you made your dirty deceiptful beds, lay in it!! You are the ones who are loosing- we had our older nurses around to help guide us, your not going to be able to make claim. We did not disrespect our older nurses, we may not have liked them but we knew where to go when we needed help and we were not so full of ourselves that we didn't ask. We never 'devalued' them like old shoes. Our managers in those days viewed them as their resourses- that's what make this new breed of management atrousities and disgracing the title nurse. This is where nursing has changed and not for the better. I feel no piety for you. So stop snibbling to the masses.