Med/Surg nurses, opinions please on this scenario

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Here's the scenario: A patient is being transfered by ambulance from a smaller facility for appendicitis. Reason for transfer given is no on call surgeon at small facility. Pt is a 20 something young woman. Pt arrives at around midnight, you call the accepting surgeon who gives you minimal orders for IVF, pain and nausea meds, and when asked he informs you that he will do the surgery at 8AM. He has not seen the patient at this point, nor viewed the radiology CD from the small hospital.

You go and inform the patient and her mother. Both are upset, why did they just ride 30 minutes in ambulance for nothing, what if appendix ruptures, they ought to go home and wait, this is ridiculous. Pt wants cigarette, had pain meds previously and is comfortable, getting drowsy. Mom is rather irate, says that ER nurse from other facility said her daughter would be going straight to surgery.

I thought she had a very good point and called back surgeon and presented her point and he also saw her point, ended up coming in and doing the surgery right away. I was just staying to help with the admit but heard the outcome was good.

It just so happens that I used to work at the smaller hospital and as I recall appys were done right away there. When I worked Med/Surg there I never remember sitting on an appendicitis case all night like this surgeon wanted to do.

The surgeon is over from the other side of the mountains filling in ad locum for a month for a buddy of his (he used to work here) He says that where he's working now they routinely wait till morning for these types of cases.

Any input?

we have had a thread not toooo long ago , about trending to treat medically rather than immediately opt to sugerey,./...but my search capacity is not in top form today......maybe someone else can find it....

it might also be that is was a good old fashion dump, since there was no insurance

The mother was particularly upset that her daughter was going to be stuck with a $5000 ambulance bill (she said). Her daughter didn't have insurance. They had all ridden the 30 mile drive in an ambulance.

A $5000 ambulance bill? That seems incredible. Air ambulance maybe, but ground transport? A limo ride would have been cheaper.

Sheesh.

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.
A $5000 ambulance bill? That seems incredible. Air ambulance maybe, but ground transport? A limo ride would have been cheaper.

Sheesh.

I don't know what the real bill was, I'm just quoting the mother. I'm sure it wasn't cheap though.

The mother did have a point, that the decisions of the smaller hospital ER were not very financially considerate of the patient. I wonder, if we get a more nationalized healthcare plan if facilities won't be more accountable fiscally?

Specializes in Med/Surg.

I've seen plenty of both, I'd say more times than not they go straight to the OR, but I also don't know much more than the CT showed a hot appy.......I don't know "how" hot relative to time of incision, KWIM?

What I've ALSO seen is PLENTY of transfers from outlying hospitals and when they get to us, asking myself, "why on earth did they have to come here at 2100/0001/0400?" We don't end up doing ANYTHING differently than the other hospital could, more often than not it seems. Last one I can think of is, 21 weeks pregnant female with gallstones. Was not having anything done that night, so why transfer at all.........if the reason for transfer is the pregnancy, why is she coming to ME (on med/surg) and not going to OB? I don't know jack about pregnant ladies, we don't see them.

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