MD's writing orders for "variance reports"

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At the hospital I work at, it is common for a group of Dr.'s to write in the orders "variance report regarding fill in the blank." I've never worked at any other hospital so therefore, I do not know if this is a common practice for Dr.'s at other hospitals. I'm not debating the fact that in most scenarios a variance report is warranted. I learned in school that variance reports are not part of the medical record, and it should not be mentioned anywhere in the notes. If it is mentioned in the med record, it can then be admissable in court. Anytime I have one of these variance report orders, I write on the variance report the required pt info and in the description of events section, I write -- Today, Dr. Soandso wrote the following order, "Variance report regarding blah, blah, blah." (I write the order exactly as it was written.) I turn the report over to my nurse manager, and I let her handle it from there. I've never been reprimanded for this by nurse manager. We get these orders frequently. Thankfully, I've never made a mistake that led to being written up.

I find it especially troubling that the group of Dr.'s who write these orders have been on the local news compaining about our facility because they want seats on the board of directors but the hospital won't allow it. This group of Dr.'s also own a one-day surgical hospital that competes with our non-profit hospital.

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

Variance reports should be a learning tool.

This group of MDs is being catty.

Variance reports should be a learning tool.

This group of MDs is being catty.

Catty and childish. Your right, a variance report is a learning tool and a safety measure to prevent the same thing from happening again.

It is also not something that is included in the chart. Has this issue been addressed by your unit manager BabiesX2?

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.
It is also not something that is included in the chart.

I had an MD who was angry write an order "please do an incident report on nurse who did not follow my order".

I copied the order and wrote two incident reports. One on the incident he was talking about, and another on the fact he wrote such an inflammatory and potentially harmful (to the hospital and perhaps himself) order. :idea:

Specializes in previously Med/Surg; now Nursery.

It is also not something that is included in the chart. Has this issue been addressed by your unit manager BabiesX2?

My previous unit director is very aware of this problem, but no one seems to think it is a big deal except me. She is the 1st in the chain of receipt of a variance report. It goes to her then to the DON. When I get the order I simply write on the variance report that I received the order and I put the order in quotes exactly as it was written. I've been there more than once when my unit manager came in to look at the chart and investigate the problem. Like I said above, no one but me thinks this is out of line.

Specializes in Med-surg; OB/Well baby; pulmonology; RTS.

We have docs at my hospital that will write an order for a QA be done on ______. We tell our nurse manager and she fills out the report.

These docs need to go back to school for Documenting 101 to learn this is a big no-no. :nono:

Specializes in previously Med/Surg; now Nursery.

It troubles me that MD's at other facilities who wrote orders like these were reprimanded, and they are not at my facility.

A varience report is not there to place blame, it is there to identify a problem with a process so the incident will be less likely to happen again. The other poster is def right...the docs are being childish and trying to pass the blame so they will not be named in court when a suit is filed. Did I read you right that your risk management dept was let go??? Arent they a uge asset to a hopsital?? Wonder if JACHO has anything policies about requiring some sort of risk management team?

Specializes in Critical Care.

1. Mentioning it in the chart 'incorporates' it as part of the chart 'by reference'.

2. It doesn't just incorporate THAT incident report; it incorporates ANY incident report about that pt in the chart.

3. I have never followed such an order. Twice, I've had a doc followup and my manager ask what happened to the incident report I was supposed to write up per the orders I signed off. My response: You didn't get it? I guess I'll have to re-write it. Neither time did anybody followup on the "missing" "rewritten" incident report.

4. It's petty.

5. I just got back from Disneyland. "It's a small world after all. . . "

~faith,

Timothy.

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