MDC jackson baptist scholar program ???2008

labrador4122, RN · May 21, 2008

Hi,
could anyone give me some feed back on Jackson or Baptist scholarsip progams tru MDC. I just came back from the infromation sesion and I am not sure if to take this scholarship. How is it working at Jackson ?
I am not sure if I am better of just finishing as a regular student at MDC and then going for a job or taking this scholarship and beeing tied down for 2 years. Also what about sign in bonuses ? How much are they nowdays in Miami area.
Pleas help me make a good decison.

you should put this in the FL forum- :nono:

nenalablue · May 21, 2008

could you please help me find FL forum ? I have been looking all over place

UM Review RN, ASN, RN · May 21, 2008

See the tabs at the top of the page? You'd want to put the pointer on the one that says "Region" and then you'll see a drop-down menu that says "United States" and you'll then click on that one.

It will bring you here: https://allnurses.com/forums/f131/ *Just click on this link for the US Region*

Then you will scroll down until you see the Florida forum. Click on Florida and you're in! This is the link so you can bookmark it: https://allnurses.com/forums/f141/

valkyria, BSN, RN · May 23, 2008

good morning,

i used to work for baptist. i work for an affiliate of jackson now and i am very happy. i know that baptist has a contract with miami dade college and in fact, they have a branch of mdc on the baptist campus. if you are chosen for the scholar program, baptist will pay for you to attend mdc at baptist hospital and you will do all your clinicals there except psych. baptist does not have a psych facility yet. in return you work for them for 2 years. it was only one year when i did it but i was going to a private university and i still had to give them one year and all i got was $7500 for the 2 years i was in ns there. baptist is only known here in south florida. there are other baptist hospitals but they are not a part of baptist health south florida. there are good and bad to that like with anything else. in your first 2 years you are getting your barrings and training and things you were told in ns are coming into focus. it is not until your third year that you get over the initial shock and start to understand and absorb alot of what went zooming by you in school. it is at that time that you are ready to specialize and you know, if not where you want to go, you know for sure, where you do not want to go.

jackson has other things going for them. the university of miami/ bascolm palmer/ sylvester comprehensive cancer center/ university of miam hospital/ryder trauma center complex, soon to be referred to as miami medicine, is the center for learning, teaching, research and medical development in the south if not a leader in the nation. they do not have the newest equipment but the best minds in the world come here to study and the lastest in technology is tried here first. that was demonstrated with the genetics research that was in the miami herald a few weeks ago, taking place in the department of cardiology. the miami project is going to be doing ground breaking work with schwann cell replacement therapy for spinal cord injury. there is research being done here for traumatic brain injury to develop a test to identify the severity of tbi in the field, much like cardiac enzyme tests do for mi. sylvester is one of only 5 comprehensive cancer centers in the nation. ryder is one of the top level 1 trauma centers in the nation and jackson has the busiest er second only to la county. great strides are being made here in cooperation with miami dade fire rescue to support research that has shown that hypothermia is preferred for a more positive outcome in trauma patients over the belief that "we must keep the patient warm." work is being done here to build a miami project for traumatic brain injury. so, you see, if you come here to work and study, you will get a foundation that cannot be rivaled by many, anywhere. it has been said that if you are interested in trauma or in any of the major specialties: peds, cardiology, anethesiology, surgery,oncology go to sylvester, dermatology, neurology, neurosurgery go to um, and on and on, then this is the place to grow your roots. jackson has orientations and preceptor programs in all the major specialties and what jmh does not have, with the acquisition of um hospital, formerly cedars medical center, um will have them. and if you work for um then you can go to um for free, once you become permanent, the only programs that are not covered are md, mba and jd and even that last one may be changing. i hope that i have been helpful. oh, they last iten, the salaries. baptist has united insurance and perhaps leads, at first, um has humana, but if you factor in

all other items: reputation, opportunities, education,etc. um/jackson will carry you further. also, jackson is a union shop for nurses and they have a program to help you pay off your nursing education! if i can answer any more questions, let me know. :heartbeat

nenalablue · May 23, 2008

Thank you!!!! :))))))))))))

Tiff2003 · May 25, 2008

Yes Jackson has one of the greatest learning facilities, and has ground breaking medical discoveries, but as an ASN student you wont be learning of that!! lol

Come on, realistically these wonderful learning facilities are for MD and PhD students. ASNs are bedside nurses who get taught what they need to succeed in the Nursing field, so sorry but all that Genetic innovation, and Oncology break-throughs will not be apart of your curriculum.

At jackson you will see everything, and be ready for anything because their pace is different from that of baptist. Look at the difference in locations, Jackson is in the heart of downtown miami... arguably one of the worst and busiest neighborhoods in South Florida so you will see gun wounds, stabbings, terrible traumas (because they're trauma center takes in most of the high level cases) that had to be flown in, and bums that just want a bed to sleep on.

Baptist is in the middle of a suburb. Most of their ER cases are domestic disputes, and car accidents. The patients that arrive there whos critical levels are too high for their facility get transferred to Jackson.

So dont' factor in the GREAT education system at Jackson in your decision, because you wont see any of that. Factor in what kind of work environment and experience you want to have.

GO to the MDC Nursing 08 forum to see my thread on what a MDC 3rd semester nurse emailed to me about Jackson Scholars.

I had my application all set and ready to go until I got feedback from current RN students at MDC. I will be doing the "normal" track.. Choosing which hospitals I want to do clinicals in

nenalablue · May 25, 2008

Thanks Tiff.

Please e-mail me or send me more threads of what you find out on the scholars progarm. I see that you might go to Jackson to talk to some nurse. If you go I would like to come along. I did call JMH and talked to some lady in charge of scholars progam and she said once you are done you get to chose what departmant, but only out of what they have open and they are the ones that give you shiffts. You don't get to chose much !

I am going back and forth on the whole idea of scholarship. Still waiting on finacial aid too.

Anyhow, keep in touch and forward me what you find out.

See ya in progam. :nurse:

valkyria, BSN, RN · May 30, 2008

tiff2003, we all have to start somewhere. obviously, you will not be involved in the studies, research and innovations but it is the enviornment that i was eluding to. the enviornment is different, which is what you defined in the second part of your post. the kind of patient is different, yes. also, you see more of the real community at jmh since it is the only public facility in dade county. your education will, therefore, be more well rounded. true you will be taught the basic skills to survive at the bedside and if that is all you want, then you can really go anywhere. if you want more than that, then you have to take the enviornment of the place you study into consideration. jmh is an academic enviornment and a teaching hospital for everyone from diploma programs for lpns to phd and beyond. many times unless you stop to read the badge, you will not know who is whom. bums who just want a bed to sleep on are sent to camilus house. the er is a warehouse of people at times though, especially in the morning. the neighborhood around jmh is not the best but not the worst either. and although most of the serious traumas end up at ryder, so do most of the police and fire rescue who may get hurt seriously and, the dade county coroner is right across the street. baptist does get some car accidents, strokes, heart attacks, over doses, some chest pain and all that is in between. for the smaller stuff, there are the urgent care centers that are sprinkled all around the communtiy. you have to look at the big picture, like in nursing. the diagnosis alone will not give you a true picture of the patient and if you just look at one aspect of the school you are considering you will not get a true picture of what will be your learning experience. i went to mdc in the accelerated program for 2 semesters as i wrote in other threads, i have worked at baptist and now i work here at miami medicine (um, sylvester, jmh, ryder, bascom palmer, holtz children hospital, etc), so i have seen things from the inside out. but you decide for yourself.

Atrial Kick · May 31, 2008

I did the Baptist scholars thing. It was what was best for me and my situation. It was close to my house and I definitely didnt want to commute to Jackson everyday. But if I were younger without kids, I would have liked the exposure at Jackson. It is like a different world when you go there.

Baptist doesnt give sign on bonuses to new grads, btw. They say that the Versant residency program is awesome that the new grad will be happy with that. I heard that Baptist pays $5000 per new nurse to the Versant program. Oh and I went thru the Versant program and it basically sucked. But Baptist is very happy with it. (Just dont ask a new nurse what she/he thinks of it).

In the Baptist on-site scholars program you dont have as many choices for clinical sites as you would have if you went to medical campus. Oh and you didnt even get to choose your clinical site most of the time!! You had to pull a number out of a hat and you got to select your clinical site based on what was left by the time your number was up. I got a good number once. all the other times I pulled the high number out of the hat and would get the left over clinical site with the clinical instructor no one wanted. So unless they have thought of some better way to do it by now, that alone would make me choose another path. They would make us go to mandatory meetings as part of being a scholar. These meetings had nothing to do with MDC or nursing school, it would be some Baptist Health seminar or something.

As an on-site scholar you are required to work 1 shift a week at one of their hospitals. They pay you $12/hr for the shift. It was good for the extra clinical time experience. The hospital is assigned to you and if you live 2 minutes from one hospital and they assign you to a hospital that is 45 minutes away, you cant change it. period. end of story.

Baptist has other types of scholar programs that might be better than the on site program, so I would definitely investigate them as well. The good thing about it for me was that I had a job on the floor that I wanted to work before I even graduated because I had made connections thru being a scholar student.

I dont know what Jackson's salary and benefits pkgs are but Baptist starts new nurses at $21.60. Not the best.

I think you have to get all the info you can to help you make the decision for what is best for you. Good luck.

labrador4122, RN · Jun 1, 2008

wow they are still starting nurses at $21.60 there!!!!! my friend was getting paid that last year!!

I am making a dollar more than that!