MD degrading RN

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I am working in the Operating Room about a month and I have observed some Surgeons who happened to degrade our Nursing profession. One incident happened when the surgeon got irritated of the room where he is doing the operation and the room has no air-con, he blamed it all to the scrub and the circulating nurses and told them how stupid they are. The surgeon even shouted it at the nurse's faces in front of everyone inside the room. Yes I understand that it is hard to do an operation when the room is warm but to shout at the nurses and tell them how stupid they are is a different story. We are also professional people and educated like these MD's and should not be treated such. Another common incident in the OR is when the MD got confused of the procedure or couldn't find the certain artery, nerve or even the specimen, the MD will again blame it all to the nurses as if we nurses are the "shock absorbers" of these MD's frustrations in life. Again the MD will shout, ask for the instrument in a yelling manner, would tell bad words to the nurses, tell how stupid nurses are etc. :lol_hitti

Does it has something to do with how much salary we nurses get compared to surgeons that is why they treat us like crap? I felt like they looked to us as if we are their servant, laborer or a peon. I don't want to see or even hear someone degrading our profession. :angryfire We are also professional and educated like MDs and we should not be treated such. Besides, no one should be treated this way because we are all human beings and deserve respect. Is there any chance that I could answer back these MDs and defend our beloved profession? :argue: I fear that my supervisors and superiors would not appreciate it if I answered back to MDs and instead they will defend the surgeon instead of me because it happened before when one nurse answered back to the doctor. Please tell me how and I will restore the dignity of nurses that these MD degraded. :innerconf

Specializes in Medical-Surgical.
pareng pinoy, i hope we all made the correct decision of going here in the US

goodluck to all of us :heartbeat

YES, we did!!!

Specializes in Medical-Surgical.

I used to worked as a med rep and know some doctors who took up nursing and told me that when they did their clinicals they begin to appreciate and understand the role of nurses.

Specializes in Med/Surg/Med-Tele/SDU/ED.
pareng pinoy, i hope we all made the correct decision of going here in the US

goodluck to all of us :heartbeat

I hope so.

we will be giving up a lot in exchange for financial stability.

we'll need all the luck & prayers we can get.

:)

Seems like some doctors need to retake values education classes! Kidding!

But seriously, if that had happened to me, I would definitely report that particular doctor thru writing, no matter what happens. And besides if you get fired by the hospital, you're still sure that you would get accomodated by another hospital. =-)

And oh what do you think of surgeons throwing instruments at you when they get mad?

Seems like some doctors need to retake values education classes! Kidding!

But seriously, if that had happened to me, I would definitely report that particular doctor thru writing, no matter what happens. And besides if you get fired by the hospital, you're still sure that you would get accomodated by another hospital. =-)

And oh what do you think of surgeons throwing instruments at you when they get mad?

Throwing instruments in the US, they would be written up and stand to lose their privileges at that hospital. This is one thing that is never, ever tolerated.

This is behavior that is not tolerated anywhere and should not be.

do not feel degraded rns...

for a number of these mds turned to nursing.. hehe...jk

but do not be afraid to become assertive.

if u know ur rights, fight for it! ;)

let him pick up the forceps he threw... lol

do not feel degraded rns...

for a number of these mds turned to nursing.. hehe...jk

but do not be afraid to become assertive.

if u know ur rights, fight for it! ;)

let him pick up the forceps he threw... lol

i'm sorry, but that is not the proper advice and the right conduct. if one does that you will be no diff. from him.

proper way is to just report it to your immediate superiors and do your facility's protocol on what to do after the procedure is completed. it will be completed.

besides, if you're the scrub nurse neither you nor the surgeon should pick up the instrument(s) (unsterile) thrown out. someone else would have to do that and a circulating nurse would have to replace it w/ new ones.

i'm sorry, but that is not the proper advice and the right conduct. if one does that you will be no diff. from him.

proper way is to just report it to your immediate superiors and do your facility's protocol on what to do after the procedure is completed. it will be completed.

besides, if you're the scrub nurse neither you nor the surgeon should pick up the instrument(s) (unsterile) thrown out. someone would have to do that and a circulating nurse would have to replace it w/ new ones.

i know.. my last statement was just a joke..

but it is an analogy. ;)

if he messed up with u, teach him a lesson..

the starter's story never happened to me..

the mds ive dealt with were nice...

but if ever it will happen to me,

i will first confront the person concerned- the surgeon himself...

and tell him of his unprofessional conduct

before i complain him to the supervisors

Just want to share this article to everyone. There are more articles about disruptive behaviors and how to deal w/ it in the web and one can look it up just by googling.

http://community.nursingspectrum.com/MagazineArticles/article.cfm?AID=24182

just want to share this article to everyone. there are more articles about disruptive behaviors and how to deal w/ it in the web and one can look it up just by googling.

http://community.nursingspectrum.com/magazinearticles/article.cfm?aid=24182

nice article...

from the link:

nurses sometimes lack the communication skills necessary to thrive in high-stress environments. leslie schneiderhan, rn, bsn, med, a clinical nurse specialist in perioperative services at mount auburn hospital, teaches assertiveness and communication skills to nurses working at all levels.

it all points down to one thing.. be assertive...like i said before. :p

btw, r u the mod?! im kinda new here... and still learning how to use this site.

Nothing wrong by being assertive as long as we try to be polite at all times and not stoop to someone else's level. "Confronting" someone while still "Hot" would not be a good idea. Much better to "talk" to him after everything cools off and after you reported it to your superiors. Most often than not your superiors will be doing the talking to that Surgeon, esp. if that particular Surgeon is infamous for loosing it under pressure and stress.

to confront him while he's still "hot" will remind him to take hold of himself.

you dont need to tolerate his unacceptable behavior when u can do something right then and there..

but if it still doesnt work...

confront him again later... still with all respect and calmness ;)

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