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maternal/infant&phychiatric Nursing -CGFNS!

I am a nurse from Ukraine living in US(Michigan) After reveiwing my papers CGFNS said I didn't have enough hours on maternal/infant and phychiatric nursing. Where can I take those two classes in Detroit area? Please, who had the same problem HELP!!!!!!!!!!! I can't find any place that will allow to take only two classes :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

I am a nurse from Ukraine living in US(Michigan) After reveiwing my papers CGFNS said I didn't have enough hours on maternal/infant and phychiatric nursing. Where can I take those two classes in Detroit area? Please, who had the same problem HELP!!!!!!!!!!! I can't find any place that will allow to take only two classes :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

I know a classmate from Ukraine came to our school to take OB/Peds (one semester) for the same reason. Do you know the minimun hours they require?

I am also going to apply for visascreen. In the US nursing school I attended, we have 72 hr for OB, 72 for Peds, and 96 for psychiatric nursing. That's what the Dean of my school of nursing put on my visacreen request form.

Well... that doesn't seem a lot. If this does not meet their requirement, it will be ridiculous. Then, I have to go back to a US nursing school after finishing a US nursing school. Ha! Ha!

I live in Atlanta, Georgia. And I know at least 2 school including my school that offer this.

I know a classmate from Ukraine came to our school to take OB/Peds (one semester) for the same reason. Do you know the minimun hours they require?

I am also going to apply for visascreen. In the US nursing school I attended, we have 72 hr for OB, 72 for Peds, and 96 for psychiatric nursing. That's what the Dean of my school of nursing put on my visacreen request form.

Well... that doesn't seem a lot. If this does not meet their requirement, it will be ridiculous. Then, I have to go back to a US nursing school after finishing a US nursing school. Ha! Ha!

I live in Atlanta, Georgia. And I know at least 2 school including my school that offer this.

I think you should be fine .I had only22 obstetrics and gynecology with 50h practice and 10 hours for phychiatric diseases with 50 practice.

Don't worry if you went through local nursing school your hours would be coordinated with the requirements of BON

I know a classmate from Ukraine came to our school to take OB/Peds (one semester) for the same reason. Do you know the minimun hours they require?

I am also going to apply for visascreen. In the US nursing school I attended, we have 72 hr for OB, 72 for Peds, and 96 for psychiatric nursing. That's what the Dean of my school of nursing put on my visacreen request form.

Well... that doesn't seem a lot. If this does not meet their requirement, it will be ridiculous. Then, I have to go back to a US nursing school after finishing a US nursing school. Ha! Ha!

I live in Atlanta, Georgia. And I know at least 2 school including my school that offer this.

If you attended a school in the US then there is no issue at all............

I am a nurse from Ukraine living in US(Michigan) After reveiwing my papers CGFNS said I didn't have enough hours on maternal/infant and phychiatric nursing. Where can I take those two classes in Detroit area? Please, who had the same problem HELP!!!!!!!!!!! I can't find any place that will allow to take only two classes :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire

Where have you tried so far? I went to nursing school in Detroit and worked there for years...........perhaps I can then make some suggestions for you.

Where have you tried so far? I went to nursing school in Detroit and worked there for years...........perhaps I can then make some suggestions for you.

Hi Suzanne!

I am in Detroit area , in Troy. So far I went personally almost everywhere:Wayne state,

Oakland University, UFM,Detroit Mercy,also all local community colleges.Everybody said NO. But just yesterday I found one that said Yes :) . Out of desperation , after almost 5 mo, I decided to call to one of my patients. (really didn't want to have to use my patient for my personal matter). Her daughter inlaw is from Romania . She was having the same issue as me last year. So my patient told me her daughter in law was taking

those classes in Schoolcraft college(Livonia). Actually I called there yesterday and talked to very helpful lady. She said they indeed offer these classes, but the problem is that all seats are already taken. If somebody drops off then I will be able to take phychiatric nursing in winter and then OB in spring.Schoolcraft is quite far away from me. About45 min one way. Suzanne, maybe you know some other places??? If not than I have to drive there. I don't have any other choices anyways :crying2:

Schoolcraft was actually the one that I was going to recommend. Also check with the community programs in your area to see if you could attend as a guest student, sometimes you need to word things differently and apply thru different channels than as a regular student. There are usually students dropping out at the last minute for one reason or another.

Please let me know what you come up with. :)

How about Macomb County or even Port Huron?

Schoolcraft was actually the one that I was going to recommend. Also check with the community programs in your area to see if you could attend as a guest student, sometimes you need to word things differently and apply thru different channels than as a regular student. There are usually students dropping out at the last minute for one reason or another.

Please let me know what you come up with. :)

How about Macomb County or even Port Huron?

Suzanne, what did you mean by apply thru different channels???

Should I go to Oakland community or Macomb community college and ask them to put me on a waiting list in case somebody drops off? Should I talk to some kind of special person?? :)

Apply to them as a "guest student"--- it means that your degree will not come from them. Then if a slot opens you can get in, especially if you have already completed the paperwork.

Also check with Macomb County, and even Port Huron to see what they have available to you.

Try and speak to the Dean of the program at those schools and see if she has any other suggestions.

Apply to them as a "guest student"--- it means that your degree will not come from them. Then if a slot opens you can get in, especially if you have already completed the paperwork.

Also check with Macomb County, and even Port Huron to see what they have available to you.

Try and speak to the Dean of the program at those schools and see if she has any other suggestions.

Thanks Suzanne for advice. I will try to apply as guest student. Actually I have already applied to both of them before, but just as transfer student. Is that the same or not? And I have to check about Port Huron. Do they have a community college there?

Big difference between a guest student and a transfer student in terms of getting into classes. At least it always was in the past.

As a transfer student, you are considered for wanting to complete the program there. For that there is no space, other than a huge waiting list.

As a guest student, you are there for only a couple of classes and not taking the place of another student. :)

Big difference between a guest student and a transfer student in temrs of getting into classes. At least it always was in the past.

As a transfer student, you are considered for wanting to complete the program there. For that there is no space, other than a huge waiting list.

As a guest student, you are there for only a couple of classes and not taking the place of another student. :)

Thanks Suzanne for your input! I was thinking that they don't really want me because they will not make much money on me , not like on full time student. It is not a matter if they CAN (allowed) to take me or not.What do you think?

You would be just taking up a slot that is vacant, not taking a place away from someone else. There are always students that have to drop for some reason or another the first week of class and then that slot is open for a student. If they are considering you it will be quite some time, due to waiting lists before you would get a slot, but as a fill-in just for a class or two; you have a much better shot of getting that class.

It has nothing to do with the money, but just you needing the two classes.

Soemtimes you just need to think outside the box.

You would be just taking up a slot that is vacant, not taking a place away from someone else. There are always students that have to drop for some reason or another the first week of class and then that slot is open for a student. If they are considering you it will be quite some time, due to waiting lists before you would get a slot, but as a fill-in just for a class or two; you have a much better shot of getting that class.

It has nothing to do with the money, but just you needing the two classes.

Soemtimes you just need to think outside the box.

I sertainly will try to go to those colleges again next week with that guest student thing, maybe they will put me on their waiting lists.

Over the time I have been trying to get my license in US, I see a lot of things that pussle me. We hear all the time and everywhere there are not enough nurses in US, we need nurses.

Well, all nursing programs are packed as I can tell. You still need nurses?

Being a foreign nurse with 7 years of experience and no emmigration problems I never noticed any kind of interest in me or any desire to help or any knowledge. Except in Schoolcraft college. God Bless that lady :) And trust me, I have talked to a lot of people in colleges,universities as well as hospitals.Foreign nurses have to realy '"invent a bike' in order to get their lisences here.Why it is that way? Or maybe I just live in a wrong state? :)

The problem arises with the hours in your program. Anyone else without an acceptable number has to make up the classes, such as nurses from the UK as well as Australia. And even some from India. Just depends on what was in your program, or not in it.

The US, as well as Canada, have very specific requirements, they want a "generalist" not a "specialist" when it comes to sitting for boards. There are ways around this.............just sit tight.

Are you willing to travel to complete the hours? Or are you limited to staying near your home?

The problem arises with the hours in your program. Anyone else without an acceptable number has to make up the classes, such as nurses from the UK as well as Australia. And even some from India. Just depends on what was in your program, or not in it.

The US, as well as Canada, have very specific requirements, they want a "generalist" not a "specialist" when it comes to sitting for boards. There are ways around this.............just sit tight.

Are you willing to travel to complete the hours? Or are you limited to staying near your home?

Hi Suzanne,

Unfortunately I am limited to staying here because of my husband.

Right now I am also thinking of applying for CA lisence maybe that will be successful? Maybe they will like my hours? :chuckle Also I have an option to go to BSN for 3yrs program to Detroit Mercy University. All in all this program will take actually 4 years with pre-requesites.LOOONG time.... :p What do you think about this options?

Thank you very much for your time! For a lot of people here you are A BIG HELP!

California will require the same hours for licensure.................

Also the biggest thing to be aware of is that MI, as well as Illinois require CGFNS exam for foreign trained nurses...........there is no way around that unless you have at least five years of work experience as an RN in the US for Michigan. So you are back to the same spot.

There is a new program in Arizona where you may be able to get both subjects done in just a few months.............

There is absloutely no reason whatsoever to go back and redo an entire program for just two classes..................

California will require the same hours for licensure.................

Also the biggest thing to be aware of is that MI, as well as Illinois require CGFNS exam for foreign trained nurses...........there is no way around that unless you have at least five years of work experience as an RN in the US for Michigan. So you are back to the same spot.

There is a new program in Arizona where you may be able to get both subjects done in just a few months.............

There is absloutely no reason whatsoever to go back and redo an entire program for just two classes..................

Yeh,that is just my luck.... :stone We moved to Michigan from Arizona. :p I hope someday we will go back there.Nice place :)

Tomorrow I am going to Schoolcraft college and next week to Oakland Community college and Wayne Community College to see if they will put me on their waiting lists. With whom you think,Suzanne, I should talk to?Nursing director,Dean of Nursing Department?

The Dean, if at all possible. Just explain your position............ :)

The Dean, if at all possible. Just explain your position............ :)

Thanks a lot Suzanne!

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