Maricopa Comm College CEP Fall 2017 Applicants

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Looking to see if there are any other Maricopa Comm College CEP applicants out there yet for Fall 2017 start (summer 2017 at the university). I put in my application Nov 7th & was told it would be a "couple" weeks until I was notified by email if & what schools I get accepted to. Anyone else out there...yet?

I hope someone is patient enough to help me here. I'm honestly so confused. If anyone can help clarify some things, I'd be very grateful. My situation is this:

I have a BS already but want to go into nursing. I don't understand the timeline with submitting an application and doing the co requisite courses and the HESI. What's the wisest way to do this since there seems to be a long wait?

Ideally I move into the CEP program. What order do I do these things in? As I understand it this is what I need to do, but I'm sure there are major flaws in my understanding. Here goes:

Does my math from my previous degree count or does it have to be a specific math? My degree was from 1993. I took math 077 from MCC for that degree. Next, I took Bio from BYU but also BIO and CHEM in high school. The Maricopa website says high school classes are acceptable and there it doesn't matter how long ago the classes were taken. Is this right? Next, I already have college english.

So, next step, have my transcripts sent to college of first choice....I have no idea how to decide that because there are such varying suggestions. If cost isn't a factor, which colleges have the highest probability of getting accepted into the CEP program with less co requisite courses?

I have my Humanities electives already and my Psychology course, too.

What is the CRE critical reading course?

I need to take the Human Anat/Phys and Microbiology course still.

Where along this way do I submit my application?

I was a teacher, so had a fingerprint clearance done many years ago. Does anyone know how long that is good for?

When do I take the HESI?

Can I submit my application before I take the HESI? Is that wise?

I'm so confused. I'm sorry for all these questions.

I'm living out of state at this time but will relocate to the Maricopa area in one year. I will take courses in the mean time, just unsure when to submit this application and when to take the HESI since everything is based on a timeline. I don't want to wait longer than necessary but am unsure if I can submit it now.

Sorry for the book. I'd appreciate any help anyone can give.

Thank you so much.

You can't submit your application for your RN until you have taken BIO 201 and they will probably make you take a higher math. I am assuming that because you already have a Bachelor's degree, they may have you do a MSN instead? It would be worth it to email an advisor or call in to try to get your questions answered!

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I hope someone is patient enough to help me here. I'm honestly so confused. If anyone can help clarify some things, I'd be very grateful. My situation is this:

I have a BS already but want to go into nursing. I don't understand the timeline with submitting an application and doing the co requisite courses and the HESI. What's the wisest way to do this since there seems to be a long wait?

Ideally I move into the CEP program. What order do I do these things in? As I understand it this is what I need to do, but I'm sure there are major flaws in my understanding. Here goes:

Does my math from my previous degree count or does it have to be a specific math? My degree was from 1993. I took math 077 from MCC for that degree. Next, I took Bio from BYU but also BIO and CHEM in high school. The Maricopa website says high school classes are acceptable and there it doesn't matter how long ago the classes were taken. Is this right? Next, I already have college english.

So, next step, have my transcripts sent to college of first choice....I have no idea how to decide that because there are such varying suggestions. If cost isn't a factor, which colleges have the highest probability of getting accepted into the CEP program with less co requisite courses?

I have my Humanities electives already and my Psychology course, too.

What is the CRE critical reading course?

I need to take the Human Anat/Phys and Microbiology course still.

Where along this way do I submit my application?

I was a teacher, so had a fingerprint clearance done many years ago. Does anyone know how long that is good for?

When do I take the HESI?

Can I submit my application before I take the HESI? Is that wise?

I'm so confused. I'm sorry for all these questions.

I'm living out of state at this time but will relocate to the Maricopa area in one year. I will take courses in the mean time, just unsure when to submit this application and when to take the HESI since everything is based on a timeline. I don't want to wait longer than necessary but am unsure if I can submit it now.

Sorry for the book. I'd appreciate any help anyone can give.

Thank you so much.

I'm sending you a private email

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Thank you beyond words for giving me info. I'm really bummed that I cannot read the message from Union-Jack. I've received info stating that I have to start "15 quality topics" before I can read or send messages to anyone. That will take quite a while and I need info asap. DIs there any way to exchange other info on here? Union-Jack, are you able to post your message here for me to read or any other way? Any ideas? Thank you so much.

AmberinAZ, thank you for your info. Why does the Maricopa nursing college website state that they accept high school biology if they require college bio? Thank you so much.

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Thank you beyond words for giving me info. I'm really bummed that I cannot read the message from Union-Jack. I've received info stating that I have to start "15 quality topics" before I can read or send messages to anyone. That will take quite a while and I need info asap. DIs there any way to exchange other info on here? Union-Jack, are you able to post your message here for me to read or any other way? Any ideas? Thank you so much.

AmberinAZ, thank you for your info. Why does the Maricopa nursing college website state that they accept high school biology if they require college bio? Thank you so much.

Yep - here ya go:

HI there -

I'll try and answer you questions as best I can!

I have a BS already but want to go into nursing. I don't understand the timeline with submitting an application and doing the co requisite courses and the HESI. What's the wisest way to do this since there seems to be a long wait?

The timeline I would suggest is to start working on the pre-reqs you will need for the CEP. The CEP is basically a hybrid of an Associates degree and a Bachelors degree. Maricopa colleges (all 9 of them except Rio Salado )the online college)) offer the CEP course, although each nursing cohort has slightly varying % of students taking the CEP and the regular ADN (Associates degree in nursing). For example, Estrella Mountain in the west valley is 100% CEP students, whereas Phoenix college is (O think) 60% CEP and 40% ADN students.

*ALL* students are required to complete the Maricopa pre-reqs before they can apply, whether you are an ADN or CEP applicant. However, as a CEP applicant you will also be required to complete ALL the co-reqs for Maricopa AND all the pre-and co-reqs for the University that you choose to partner with. There are currently 6 Universities to choose from. Which ones are you interested in, and why??

If you need a list of the pre- and co-reqs, let me know. The reason that you need to have all these completed before you apply is because once you begin the CEP course, there simply wouldn't be enough time to take these classes alongside your University (mainly online) classes and your in-person clinical classes.

Regarding when to take the HESI. I would suggest waiting until you are about 2-3 classes out from completing all the pre- and co-reqs. The reason for this is, if you don't do as well as you hoped on the HESI, you will still have time to re-sit it before you are ready to turn in your application. There is a 60 day wait period between taking the HESI exams....so if you leave it until the last minute and bomb the exam, then you won't have any time buffer to retake it before the application is due. You get 3 chances to take it in a 12 month period, with 60 days between each try. Hence, allow about 120~ days before you expect to turn in your application to build in the time to take it 3 times if necessary. Hopefully you'll ace it first go, but better safe than sorry!

Does my math from my previous degree count or does it have to be a specific math? My degree was from 1993. I took math 077 from MCC for that degree.

Yes, you will need MAT140, 141 or 142. It is possible, although highly unlikely, that they will accept a math class taken in 1993. However, that is a question for a nursing advisor at your local community college.

Next, I took Bio from BYU but also BIO and CHEM in high school. The Maricopa website says high school classes are acceptable and there it doesn't matter how long ago the classes were taken. Is this right? Next, I already have college english.

Again, you will need specific BIO classes. It is possible that the classes you took can transfer if they are considered equivalent. You'll have to have the advisor take a look at your transcript and see if they can accept them. Same for the English. Chemistry, I think high-school is accepted, yes (but, again - best to check). There is a BIO pre-req for the ADN, but the CEP has additional BIO classes.

So, next step, have my transcripts sent to college of first choice....I have no idea how to decide that because there are such varying suggestions. If cost isn't a factor, which colleges have the highest probability of getting accepted into the CEP program with less co requisite courses?

Before you apply or send any transcripts in, be sure you have all your classes in order (and aim for a high GPA), your HESI completed (for CEP you should aim for a very high % score....over 90%) and your fingerprint clearance card. The HESI score lasts at least 12 months (might be 24 months). I think you may need to re-apply for your fingerprint card to be run in Arizona if you are from out of state, but I'm not sure.

I have my Humanities electives already and my Psychology course, too.

What is the CRE critical reading course?

This is a 100-level class, CRE101

Where along this way do I submit my application?

Once you have every pre- and co-req completed. Let me know if you require specifics. You submit at the college you hope to study at. You can, however, include a 2nd and 3rd choice to improve your chances of getting in.

I was a teacher, so had a fingerprint clearance done many years ago. Does anyone know how long that is good for?

My understanding is it should be on the card itself, but I imagine they will want an current one done.

When do I take the HESI?

See above

Can I submit my application before I take the HESI? Is that wise?

No, you cannot submit your application before you have your HESI.

I'm living out of state at this time but will relocate to the Maricopa area in one year. I will take courses in the mean time, just unsure when to submit this application and when to take the HESI since everything is based on a timeline. I don't want to wait longer than necessary but am unsure if I can submit it now.

If you are taking classes with a college out of state, be sure that they will be considered equivalent to the pre- and co-reqs at Maricopa. Another option is to take the specific classes online with Maricopa's online school, Rio Salado (Rio Salado College | Rio Salado College).

The CEP is not a "wait".....it is competitive entry, so once your application goes in, you'll be considered for the next round of students if you meet all the qualifications. You can submit your application at any time, but there are 2 main "closing dates"....I believe they are January 31st and May 31st. Hence, if you applied in March, you'd be part of the applicants for the May 31st deadline. If you apply on June 2nd (just missing the May 31st deadline), you'd have to wait until the January 31st deadline the following year. They do this because there are 2 cohorts a year; Fall entry students and Spring entry students.

Hope this helps!

Union-Jack

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Thank you beyond words for giving me info. I'm really bummed that I cannot read the message from Union-Jack. I've received info stating that I have to start "15 quality topics" before I can read or send messages to anyone. That will take quite a while and I need info asap. DIs there any way to exchange other info on here? Union-Jack, are you able to post your message here for me to read or any other way? Any ideas? Thank you so much.

AmberinAZ, thank you for your info. Why does the Maricopa nursing college website state that they accept high school biology if they require college bio? Thank you so much.

You need both. If you don't have HS Bio, you'll need BIO156. In other words, you need BIO156 & Bio201, *OR* HS Bio and BIO201

However, these 2 Biology classes are pre-reqs for both the ADN (AA Degree in nursing) and the CEP. If you go for the CEP, you will ALSO need BIO202 and BIO205. In addition to that, you will need any other Bio classes that the University asks for.

For example, I enrolled with Ottawa Univeristy for the CEP. For the sciences I had to have CHM130, CHM130LL, BIO156, BIO201, BIO202, BIO205, plus Human Pathophysiology (HCR240)

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Union Jack and AmberinAZ, thank you so so much for being willing to take the time to help explain things. I am out of state and getting this info over the phone has been very very difficult.

You explained the process for the CEP. Considering the extra classes involved prior to application for this program, are you willing (fingers crossed and a hug from me to you if at all possible :) to explain why someone like myself might just apply for the ADN program, even tho it has a wait list, simply because I may be able to start the program sooner. If I have a lot of pre/co requisites for the application and the CEP college of first choice, the timeline might be sooner to apply for the ADN program, complete it, then just take another year of online school for the BSN. I understand there are plenty of colleges online even that are available to advance from an RN to a BSN in 12 months. Is this right?

From what I'm understanding, I'm probably needing to take the BIO 201, possibly another college math course, (I can do these these this next Fall semester),already have HS BIO, already have HS Chemistry and already have college English. Apply to the BSN program at the end of this year, (Dec 2017) after my grades are complete from the math and bio. Get accepted (because I would meet the requirements and therefore everyone is accepted, right?

While waiting in the "pool", take the Human Anat and Phys classes and Microbiology. I already have the Humanities and second English class. This would mean waiting through all of 2018 and possibly 2019 (is this the about how long the wait is?) Then begin and complete the ADN in 3 semesters, so 2021? Am I doing the timeline right? I know it's an estimate. After that, get a BSN on my own, which will take another year. Ugh. A lot of waiting in there. If I chose this route, when would I take the HESI?

On the contrary, if I choose to apply for the CEP program, I'd need to take another Math class, another Bio class, Microbiology, both Human Anat/Phys and whatever co requisites are required from the college of first choice (Do you happen to know which colleges offering the BSN have less co-requisites)? Then, if accepted to the CEP program, it takes two years to complete, correct? And the best part is you end with your BSN. I'm thinking this route will take me about the same amount of time actually but I end with a BSN. (Note, I am a mother with young children and will be relocating during that timeframe). Taking many classes at once will be very difficult, so I'll have to spread them out. This is why I'm wondering if the ADN program is possibly better simply because I don't have as many classes to take to begin....

Again, please don't feel like you must respond tonight. It's ultra late, or even at all, but I have thoroughly appreciated your advice as you definitely understand the program. Thank you again.

BTW, are you in the CEP program now?

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I just rechecked my transcripts and I did take MA305/306 as well as MA077. Unsure if these qualify for the math pre-requisite. I'll hopefully get a call back from the dozen or so messages I left on Friday regarding the program. You've been so amazing to help explain the way this works. Thank you again. Just having some answers is alleviating major anxiety.

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You explained the process for the CEP. Considering the extra classes involved prior to application for this program, are you willing (fingers crossed and a hug from me to you if at all possible to explain why someone like myself might just apply for the ADN program, even tho it has a wait list, simply because I may be able to start the program sooner.

I would start by having your transcript reviewed to see where you stand on all your classes. An advisor (or someone qualified to do so) at the college can do that. They should have a check-sheet too, so that helps because it provides a visual review of where you're at. Hopefully some, if not all, of your classes transfer over, but at least if you have them reviewed you'll know what you can and cannot use.

Your general pre-reqs for entry into the "nursing pool" are:

MAT140 OR MAT141 OR Mat142

BIO156 OR HS BIO

BIO201

CHM130/CHM130LL OR HS Chemistry

ENG101 OR ENG107

You will also need the HESI and fingerprint clearance along with your application, and the colleges require you attend advisement so that you are comfortable with the course etc. You'll also need proof of HS Diploma and all your transcripts sent over.

So - that (above) will get you entered into the nursing pool for the ADN. The wait list is not set in stone, but it will typically be 2-3 years. Additionally, you are somewhat restricted on which CC you can apply to because some colleges (such as Estrella and Glendale) ONLY take CEP students. Generally, the more "central valley" colleges take at least a % of ADN students.

Here's my thinking: if you are going to have to wait 2-3 years anyway, you may as well be plugging away getting the additional classes done. If you take them online (as I did), you can fit them around your other commitments (kids, jobs, life), and you can get them wrapped up in about 2 years. May well be faster for you if you can transfer some of your classes in too.

In addition to that, Arizona (can't speak for other states) are pretty hot on new grads having the BSN.

Since your wait to get into the ADN is going to be the same, if not longer, than the time it will take to complete the classes needed to apply for the CEP, why not...?? Then, even if you don't get into the CEP, you've still been in the nursing pool long enough to have wound your way through the system and will be eligible for a place on the ADN program. My understanding is that as long as you meet the minimum requirements for the above classes (2.0GPA, Grade C's for the ADN), and you have reached the top of the wait list, then you will be guaranteed a place on the ADN.

There is, however, no guarantee of a place on the CEP because it is competitive entry (unlike the waitlist for the ADN). So - realistically, you would likely be able to get onto the CEP faster than the ADN, as long as you utilize the time to complete the needed classes.

If I have a lot of pre/co requisites for the application and the CEP college of first choice, the timeline might be sooner to apply for the ADN program, complete it, then just take another year of online school for the BSN. I understand there are plenty of colleges online even that are available to advance from an RN to a BSN in 12 months. Is this right?

See my answer above

From what I'm understanding, I'm probably needing to take the BIO 201, possibly another college math course, (I can do these these this next Fall semester),already have HS BIO, already have HS Chemistry and already have college English. Apply to the BSN program at the end of this year, (Dec 2017) after my grades are complete from the math and bio. Get accepted (because I would meet the requirements and therefore everyone is accepted, right?

Yes, BIO201 is a pre-req for the ADN and the CEP. No, not everybody gets into the CEP even if you have completed all the required classes. I believe you would get onto the ADN program if you had the required classes, but it will require the 2-3yr wait.

While waiting in the "pool", take the Human Anat and Phys classes and Microbiology. I already have the Humanities and second English class. This would mean waiting through all of 2018 and possibly 2019 (is this the about how long the wait is?) Then begin and complete the ADN in 3 semesters, so 2021? Am I doing the timeline right? I know it's an estimate. After that, get a BSN on my own, which will take another year. Ugh. A lot of waiting in there. If I chose this route, when would I take the HESI?

You cannot accelerate the ADN, other than to plow through your co-requisites and get them out of the way. The clinical aspect of the ADN is 4 blocks over 2 years, and regardless of whether you finish your co-reqs in a month or in a year, you would still be in school for 2 years. This includes placement in a hospital. While you're in the "pool" waiting, I suggest taking the other classes for the CEP, but obviously that's your choice. Or what you could do during your wait is take the ADN co-requisites, so that once you move to the top of the waitlist, the only classes that you have to take are the core nursing classes.

Yes, you could wait, take the ADN, start working, then take the BSN on your own steam.

As I mentioned previously, the best time to take the HESI is with enough time to allow yourself a chance to re-sit if need be. There is a mandatory 60 day wait between sitting the exams (if you decide, or need to re-take it), and a maximum of 3 sits a year. So - allow that time built into your class schedule and you'll be fine. There are minimum passing grades for the ADN (I think it is something like 75% for math, 85% for English - but don't quote me on that). For the ADN that's fine. If you want to enter the CEP, your scores in the HESI need to be much higher - realistically in the 90%s to be competitive.

On the contrary, if I choose to apply for the CEP program, I'd need to take another Math class, another Bio class, Microbiology, both Human Anat/Phys and whatever co requisites are required from the college of first choice (Do you happen to know which colleges offering the BSN have less co-requisites)? Then, if accepted to the CEP program, it takes two years to complete, correct? And the best part is you end with your BSN. I'm thinking this route will take me about the same amount of time actually but I end with a BSN. (Note, I am a mother with young children and will be relocating during that timeframe). Taking many classes at once will be very difficult, so I'll have to spread them out. This is why I'm wondering if the ADN program is possibly better simply because I don't have as many classes to take to begin....

Yes, the CEP takes about 2-2.5 years. I personally applied to Ottawa because it only had 1 additional pre-req. The University of Upper Iowa has no extra pre-reqs. I think those 2 are the lowest in terms of additional classes. I'll have to double-check that though. A typical flow of study would be (for example)..begin with the University in the fall with your online classes. In Spring, start in-person at the CC. At this time, your workload with the University will drop because you will be busy with CC. In the summer when CC classes break, your online classes pick up again. With the CEP, there is no break - you will be in school continuously for 2.5yrs. The online classes essentially ebb and flow based on your workload at CC (more classes at CC, less online, and visa-versa).

Again, please don't feel like you must respond tonight. It's ultra late, or even at all, but I have thoroughly appreciated your advice as you definitely understand the program. Thank you again.

You're welcome!

BTW, are you in the CEP program now?

I personally start in the fall with Ottawa, and at CC in January. There are many people here who are already on the program.

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

For the CEP, how high is a GPA that is competitive? I calculated the classes I've already taken w/ the grades I've received and the classes I have yet to take getting straight A's and my GPA would only come out to 3.54. This is the best case scenario without having to retake any classes for higher grades. Is this a high enough GPA to get into the CEP program? What's your guess? Are all the pre and co requisites used for calculating the GPA equally?

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

For the CEP, how high is a GPA that is competitive? I calculated the classes I've already taken w/ the grades I've received and the classes I have yet to take getting straight A's and my GPA would only come out to 3.54. This is the best case scenario without having to retake any classes for higher grades. Is this a high enough GPA to get into the CEP program? What's your guess? Are all the pre and co requisites used for calculating the GPA equally?

No, they don't use all the grades for the CEP GPA, but most of them yes. Here's a complete breakdown of all the pre- and co- requisites you'll need for Maricopa with the CEP. Remember, there may be additional classes based on which University you decide upon. I think of these, CRE101 is NOT used in the GPA calculation.

ENG101 AND ENG 102

OR

ENG107 AND ENG 108

CRE101 OR an additional humanities class (you'd have to check with Maricopa as to which humanities classes are acceptable as a replacement for this class, if you take that route. CRE101 is a fun class though!)

CHM130 AND CHM130LL (they are very specific here. I had a harder chemistry lab class at grade A, and they refused to allow me to use it, I had to take the CHM130LL (lab) class)

MAT142 or higher

PSY101 OR PSY240

BIO156 AND BIO201 AND BIO202 ANDBIO205

Remember, this is for the CEP. I think, for example, if you are applying for the ADN, MAT 140 or MAT141 are also acceptable. My understanding is that MAT142 is required if you are heading for the CEP route. Again, check with an advisor on that.

Regarding grades and GPA...nobody knows the "magic formula". However, obviously the higher the better. My understanding is that Maricopa uses a point system to look for the best candidates. There are several areas you gain points; your GPA, your HESI, and whether you have a previous degree. The general belief is that it is worked out as follows, although whether I am correct on this is anybody's guess :roflmao:

Previous degrees: AA Degree = 1 point, Bachelors Degree = 2 points, Masters = 3 points

GPA:take the GPA and multiply by 2.5 to get a possible score of up to 10 (i.e with a 4.0 GPA, you'd get the full 10 points)

HESI: You are given points based on which "bracket" your HESI score falls into. I have no idea what the actual numbers are, but ballpark it will be 95-100% = 5 points, 90-94.9% = 4 points, and so on.

Hence, with the HESI and your GPA, you should aim to score as high as you can to increase your chances of getting an overall high number of points. With points for the previous degree, you either have one or your don't...but if you do, it helps because you can notch up an additional point or two.

The HESI is also broken down into an English score, a Math score, and a combined/cumulative score, each given as a %. When you apply, you have to turn in the print-out that is given to you on the day you take your HESI. That gives a break down of all the exams you took that day (BTW - it's a looooooong exam - allow 4 hours!). For example, the English part is broken down into several sub-exams/parts, such as vocab, reading, grammar, etc. and you receive a % grade for each section, which is then averaged for your English score. Whether they look at those sub-exam scores during their selection process, I don't know.

So, for the ADN route - you need to meet the minimum requirements, get on the wait list, and eventually you'll roll to the top of the list and get a place offered.

For the CEP route, you need the best scores you can because you'll be competing against other entrants. I assume they rank everyone by their overall "points" and shave off the top students to fill their seats? But, truthfully, nobody really knows the formula.

Therefore, realistically to remain competitive, your GPA needs to be (IMO) a 3.5 minimum, and the closer to the 4.0 the better. Your HESI should be in the 90s% for math and English, and of course the cumulative overall score too. The higher the better....95% and up is very favorable!

Get your transcript assessed, transfer what you can (if you're happy with the grades....really A's and B's are what you want), re-take the ones you're not happy with, and take the classes you're missing. Your goal should be to have pretty much all A's and B's across all the pre- and co-reqs, plus a high HESI. That's not to say the occasional C will kill your chances, but obviously all C's will give you a 2.0 GPA, and honestly you wouldn't stand a chance of getting into the CEP with that (not wanting to sound harsh, just realistic). Hence, A's and B's is what you need, across the board.

You asked about my scores.....I honestly don't remember my exact scores now, because I submitted back in April. You'd think they'd be drilled into my brain because they were my "goal" for so long, but no.....total blank. I guess I could look them up in my file, but I'm too lazy....:roflmao: But ballpark, my GPA was about 3.7-3.8 and HESI was over 95% overall, with 100% for math and 93% for English, or something like that.

Hope that helps! :laugh:

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By the way - there seems to be a bit of confusion regarding the Universities' acceptance in the whole process. Each University mandates their own pre- and/or co-requisites (over and above those expected from Maricopa). Some have several additional classes, some have 1 or 2, and some have none. That shouldn't be your only reason for selecting that particular Uni though; take a look at the actual program, classes offered, cost, whether they accept financial aid, their communication and support, and so forth.

However, as long as you meet the minimum entrance level of the University you choose to partner with, you will be accepted into that university. It is the Maricopa college that makes the decision of whether you'll get into the CEP program or not. So, for example, let's say you chose a University X, which has a minimum entry GPA of 2.75 and no additional pre-reqs, and you meet that standard, then they will accept you into the CEP classes with them. However, your application with Maricopa may be reviewed and rejected, and hence you would then not get a seat at the university.

Essentially, if you get into the CEP with Maricopa, then by definition you almost certainly meet the minimum required grades of the university and therefore automatically get a place there. In other words, if you got onto the CEP with Maricopa, you wouldn't be rejected by the university as long as you meet their minimum grades, and if you are getting onto the CEP with Maricopa then it is pretty much certain that your grades are high.

The only time this scenario would fail is if every single CEP applicant had a 2.5 or less, but that is extremely unlikely.

I'm just putting it out there, because I did see a lot of posts where people were anxious about whether the university they hoped to partner with would accept them.....when the reality was that they were guaranteed a spot if they got in with Maricopa, if that makes sense!

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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

For the CEP, how high is a GPA that is competitive? I calculated the classes I've already taken w/ the grades I've received and the classes I have yet to take getting straight A's and my GPA would only come out to 3.54. This is the best case scenario without having to retake any classes for higher grades. Is this a high enough GPA to get into the CEP program? What's your guess? Are all the pre and co requisites used for calculating the GPA equally?

Also, I think a 3.54 with a great HESI score would be a decent application, yes. Of course, a lot depends on who else is applying!

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