Male nurses earning more?

[OgopogoLPN, LPN, RN]

I was reading the acticle about men continuing to make more money than women. It's had to tell if it's more per hour, or an average over a year. Whereas a woman may take more days off for family matters, sick children, etc.

Any nurse working in a hospital/public health/gov't agency in Canada belongs to their provinces nursing union. Or in my case as an LPN, the Hospital Employees Union. The unions negotiate the collective agreement (including wages, shift differentials, etc) with the employers (health authorities that fall under the gov't...not sure how all the details pan out)

Anyways, my point is, any nurse, male or female, makes the name dollar amount per hour. (On the same wage increment, determined by number of hours worked) You cannot ask for more because you are good or experienced. Or get less because you are female.

Any RN or LPN in my province, (at the same wage increment) will make the same amount per hour, same shift diffentials. If the male happens to earn more during the year because they choose to work more hours or don't have to take time off for family obligations, then they do.

So, what is it if males earn more in your area? Males earn more per hour, or earn more over the year on average because they can wok more hours?

[classicdame, MSN, EdD]

in the acute care hospital where I work men tend to be in the critcal care areas and those nurses are paid more than in other areas. But the pay is the same for male/female

[nebrgirl]

Do men get promoted up the ladder sooner? Get into nursing school sooner to help the diversity?

[caliotter3]

I work in an area where it is possible for one nurse to make more than the next, not necessarily because of gender. If asked about the disparity, you would be told that one person was better at negotiating a higher salary. I could easily see that a male entering the office looking for a job would be offered more as a routine way to get and keep male employees.

[John20]

The males making more than females in the same job is a farce. Do any internet search on the subject and you'll see the facts. It's false feminist propaganda more interested in making noise than truth. In the sue happy culture of America it would ASSANINE for a company to offer male employees more money than female employees in the same position. Especially when the majority of management in nursing is female.

[cmonkey]

Unfortunately, it's not a farce. Ask Wal-Mart about it. "In granting the case class action status, Judge Martin Jenkins indicated that Wal-Mart had for the most part failed to dispute the plaintiffs evidence that women were paid less than men in every region and in most job categories; that the salary gap widens over time even for employees hired into the same jobs; that women take longer to reach management positions; and that the higher one looks in the organization, the lower the percentage of women. Among other facts cited by the plaintiffs are that two-thirds of the company's 1.2 million U.S. workers are women, but only one-third of all managers and only 14 percent of store managers are women. As a comparison, on average, 60 per cent of the managers in general merchandise stores are women. None of these facts in themselves prove that there was intentional, systematic bias, the judge declared, but they help to support an inference that Wal-Mart engages in discriminatory practices."

Employers ask you not to share your salary information for a reason. People hired for the same job on the same day can have different pay rates, so it's not necessarily just about male/female. But you better believe it's true. Labeling it "false feminist propoganda" doesn't make it so. Either everyone is lying about their wages, or it's true and no one has done anything effective about it.

Here's an internet search for you: "statistical evidence class-action sex discrimination".

The way you launched into this, I'm guessing you won't believe AFL-CIO either, but they discuss it too.

[Argo]

I agree with john but I would also like to state that I think it is BS, bigtime BS, to pay people in regards to their years of experience. I dont care if you have been a nurse for 20 years, the main thing is how good are you.... If you have been a junk nurse for 20 years then i dont want you for $10/hr much less $30-40/hr. I would rather pay a 2-3 year nurse the higher wage if they are a better nurse. I live by what I say and I have an excellent staff because of it. Men/women/years tenure, who cares, I want quality.....

[Argo]

BTW, I am the only MALE nurse manager in my hospital....

[cmonkey]

It's a short thread so far, but it looks like only the men say it's BS. I find that interesting.

[neutrophil]

Well, I am an LPN, a male. I get paid less than my female colleagues because of seniority. Having been a CNA for a while working in nursing homes and hospitals. I found that, males in nursing homes seem to be a little more focused on the job, than looking for problems of their fellow nurses. In hospitals, I don't know if it is because the acute condition or the education of the nurses. But, it does not matter. Female as well as male nurses are fantastic. I was pleased to be their aide, no matter the gender. As far as pay, my understanding is that it was more on seniority and education. In today's market, business is business, bottom line is bottom line.