I have spoken to Staffordshire University today on behalf of a friend as she was wanting to obtain her transcripts, the chap i spoke to told me that they are starting to offer post graduate courses for people who didnt get the hours in maternity, mental health and childrens nursing, which could be good news for anyone short on hours.
He said it was in answer to growing demand!!!
I suppose it could be due to the job freeze in NHS trusts
Do people generally have to go through uni to make up their hours? is there a set criteria for the number of hours in each area you need, or does it vary in accordance to the position you're going for?
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Do people generally have to go through uni to make up their hours? is there a set criteria for the number of hours in each area you need, or does it vary in accordance to the position you're going for?
It has to be a recognised course and generally both theory and practical has to be done at the same time. You can not just do some hours on a ward. Can do it overseas as long as it is an approved nursing school as they will have to send transcripts of hours done
Hello. Does anyone know what universities offer overseas Nursing prep courses now? I can't find anymore info on Brighton on the web and the only info on an overseas program I can find on City University is a course for bridging internationally-trained Nurses. I am a Student in the UK so obviously I don't fit that criteria! My boyfriend is American working in the UK at the moment, when I graduate I want to move back with him so need to find out how I can make up these practice hours? Been such a stressor on me thinking of how to get around it or find a course. Please someone help!
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Hello. Does anyone know what universities offer overseas Nursing prep courses now? I can't find anymore info on Brighton on the web and the only info on an overseas program I can find on City University is a course for bridging internationally-trained Nurses. I am a Student in the UK so obviously I don't fit that criteria! My boyfriend is American working in the UK at the moment, when I graduate I want to move back with him so need to find out how I can make up these practice hours? Been such a stressor on me thinking of how to get around it or find a course. Please someone help!
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I don't think there are any universities in the UK that hold these courses as the aim of the university is to train you to work in the UK. I also think Brighton did this with an agency and due to retrogression and probably cost has I think stopped doing it
Shiiiiiiii-sugar. Any suggestions on how I can make up Maternity and Peads hours? Does every state require these for overseas Nursing? We will either be living in Baltimore (Maryland) Boston (MA) or Penn (PA) depending on Fiance's situation then. I'm incredibly nervous about this now. I don't want to go to the states and have to start again. Is it possible whilst I'm in the states to make up these hours at a hospital that would sponser me or do I need these hours to sit the NCLEX? I might consider asking the University I'm at if they can send me on some placements over the summer but I don't think my University or the NHS trust I work for are in the business of supporting students who want to move abroad particually since my NHS trust is a Foundation and they really strive their best to place students in the trust once qualifying.
I am fudged.
I've discovered a "welcome back" centre in Boston with Bunker Hill Community College that does work with Internationally Trained Nurses that I think prepares them for registering in the US for the NCLEX,
I'm going to email them or give them a call and see if they offer placements for internationally trained nurses to make up hours or if it's useless to me. If anyone actually knows of any schools state-side (and anywhere in the states) that offer bridging courses for internationally-trained Nurses then that would be great. The thing with me is that I wont be going over to the states on a Skilled Visa it will be a Fiance petition which usually takes about a few months to clear and then I will marry in the states and have residence, so once I'm over in the states I will be able to make up these hours there if I have to. But I would prefer to do it here if there was an agency or a school in the UK that did it. I have looked around this forum top to bottom and found nothing of any relevence anymore (Brighton & City courses have gone, and time has passed) so it looks like I (and probably others) have to find another solution to this.
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You need hours in Paeds, Obstetrics, Mental Health and General Adult. The US is general trained not specialist like the UK. You need both clinical and theory. If your husband is a USC then you do not need a hospital to sponsor you for a immigrant visa. You may be able to find a school in the US that accepts you as a guest student to make up any hours but I think in the UK you will find it very hard to find a university that is offering these catch up courses
You will not get eligibility to sit NCLEX without meeting requirements and no hours in the above means you do not meet requirements
Hmmm bugger then will def need to figure out if I can get these hours done at University here in the UK whilst in training. Perhaps if the University let me do it over the summer. The problem is the theory and I don't know where I could get that done. Does anyone know what the actual requirements are for MA for these hours to be accepted to sit the NCLEX? Or just a general overview of what all the Nursing boards want? I'm guessing it's something around 80+ hours each. I really don't know if I have the juice so-to-speak to get into an American school and even if I did the cost would be a massive issue for me. Boyfriend makes money but not that much money! I have e-mailed Bunker Hill so see what they say. Also I read on here OGP have the provisions to allow Nurses to sit these hours so I might contact them aswell.
I'm wondering, I'm not sure if Canada require you to have hours in these areas but if they don't will I be able to sit the NCLEX if I'm eligible for Canada and worked there for a few years? Me and the other half can go anywhere I graduate really... There are offices for his company in Alberta and Toronto.
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Canada has the same requirements as the US and requires general trained with hours in Paeds, Mental Health, Obstetrics as well as Adult. Even if you get licensed in Canada you still have to meet requirements for the US
May be beneficial to email or contact the BON and see what requirements they have for each speciality
Oh man... this is a nightmare to try and figure out Am I destined to work in the NHS my whole life? I need to figure this out because I desperatly want to move back to the states with my other half as it will eventually have to happen for him but I desperatly want to be a Nurse there!!! Trust my stupid University to not follow the CFP like some of the other Universities and do a round-robin in Paeds, MH & Maternity in the first year. At least that is what two Universities in my area are doing. I got elderly medicine twice and Dermo (which was just full of elderly people with foot & leg ulcers) in my CFP, it's ridiculous!
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There are many universities in the UK that do not off a round robin and gain experience in other specialities. This is something that has happened for several years and I think a lot has to do how it is funded because really you don't pay for your nurse training unlike many other countries where it costs £££££/$$$$$ etc
I know this, and I'm thankful for my Nurse training to be paid for and I apologise if I ever meant otherwise, it's just that the actual structure of the CFP is to complete a first year along with all other branches (this is why round-robins still occur) and then students branch-off at the end of the first year. Unfortunatly my University doesn't provide that, cost-effect and lack of resources I am assuming somewhere and there are hundreds of us (students from adult branch) in which the Trust I work for need desperatly on the wards (massive geriatric-type hospital in the trust, big on adult surgery in the main hospital, elderly acute medicine, dozens and dozens of outpatient clinics and large cancer hospital etc) so they are uninterested in sending adult nursing students off on other placements.
I have a friend in Canada training in Toronto who is seeing if there are classes there for overseas students. I just mentioned it to her last night in passing on Skype that I was stuck as to what to do and she said that in her some of her paeds theory classes she took last year she saw two U.K students who joined just those classes and then she later saw them again at the hospital. There is nothing on her school website about overseas-trained transition credits or whatever else so they might have been students she just never noticed before, but she is gonna talk to someone at her school, maybe even the dean if she can. If I do get the info I need from relevent schools in the next few days I will post them, could be very helpfull even if they aren't the most ideal for U.K Nurses just wanting to do a bit of travelling. I don't really have a choice in what I end up doing 'cause I need to do it. I'm getting the impression from another Nursing school in MA last night that overseas-trained Nurses who need to make up classes can do so at the discresion of the dean at the school, so it looks to be swinging that way.
I feel bad because my other half does not want to work in the U.K forever, he loves it here but he can make so much more money in the states, be closer to his family (both of his parents have failing health and has brother recently went "missing" in April from where he lived in Chicago and has yet to turn up, so his sister takes the weight of the world out there now and manage her life, her parents and support her brothers family during this time on top of the fact that he might be gone forever) and overall we can have a much better life out there where he is from or wherever he decides to go to work. He can work from home there too so much more time for his family, and he's already agreed with me and his employer to ride through 2011 in the U.K and re-evaluate both of our positions again in 2012. I would be happy enough to go to the states with him and take classes provided we have the money for however much tuition is, for however how long, taking in the fact also I will be without a salary during that time, it will be a struggle, but only so long as I get some time as a U.K RN under my belt first. I just feel as soon as I graduate here I should really get into Nursing here if I can't into Nursing in the U.S straight away, I don't want all my years of training to be in vain and just spend another year or however long in the states in school again and feel out of my depth and not practiced the skills I've learned. He obviously doesn't like this idea, so it's just stress now. It seems far away to think about it, but it isn't. Too much stress!
Am I destined to work in the NHS my whole life? I need to figure this out because I desperatly want to move back to the states with my other half as it will eventually have to happen for him but I desperatly want to be a Nurse there!!! Trust my stupid University to not follow the CFP like some of the other Universities and do a round-robin in Paeds, MH & Maternity in the first year. At least that is what two Universities in my area are doing. I got elderly medicine twice and Dermo (which was just full of elderly people with foot & leg ulcers) in my CFP, it's ridiculous!
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Do people generally have to go through uni to make up their hours? is there a set criteria for the number of hours in each area you need, or does it vary in accordance to the position you're going for?