LPN's just glorified nurse aids in LTC? Huh?

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I recently had a couple of nurses tell me that LPN's are just basically glorified aids in LTC settings.

I though that LPN's did mostly the same work as RN's in the LTC setting.

I know that everyone needs to be a team and pitch in and get whatever needs to be done, done. But LPN's as glorified aids? Why go to LPN school then?

What are typical LPN duties in a LTC setting?

I am going to school to become an LPN in the fall. this same reason is why i am second guessing the entire thing. the way that some RN's treat LPN is just not right. Whomever is being treated unfairly should report this type of behavior to their human resources dept. When i become and LPN I am going to be darn proud. All the hard work you put into it and then to be told something like this! the next time they say something like that just ignore their ignorance! :angryfire

Carleen

One of the hardest things that I ever had to do was complete LPN school, and I am a RN now. People do not know how compact the course is, you have to be very bright to grasp all the information day after day after day and then go to clinical to continue the same pace. Just remember that no matter where you go though, there will be those that do not understand the intensity of that course and what it truly means to be an LPN.

You should be proud, not everyone can be an LPN. It is something to be proud of, always keep your head up.

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I work in a LTC facility, RN can supervise which LPNs cant but other then that we are pretty equal. The RNs here have never talked down to us which is a big help. Everyone has there own job in nursing wether it be a CNA, MNA LPN or RN everyone has there job and they are all important and have the same goal.

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I would not have the time to do the cnas work at my nursing home, but

I would be glad to do it if the pay was the same. Infact as a PD ( not

agency) I make 32.00/hr. You can call me whatever you want or give me

any job you want.

At my hospital ( my real full-time job). I do the same jobs as the RNs

of-course, no charge, no admissions, no pushes, no blood hangs. There

I get alot less-but work a lot less also

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Specializes in home health, geriatrics and ped.
I recently had a couple of nurses tell me that LPN's are just basically glorified aids in LTC settings.

I though that LPN's did mostly the same work as RN's in the LTC setting.

I know that everyone needs to be a team and pitch in and get whatever needs to be done, done. But LPN's as glorified aids? Why go to LPN school then?

What are typical LPN duties in a LTC setting?

I work in a LTC facility and work with a RN on the second shift. We are a small facility and when we work together, we do the same job. At times when she works during the day on the weekends, she is the supervisor and does not have a group. I guess it all depends on your facility's policies.

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Specializes in home health, geriatrics and ped.
:uhoh21: I think we should all be treated equal. If it weren't for our CNA's we would get nothing done. If it weren't for the RN's we would never get our IV pushes done and if it weren't for the LVN's, they would ALL be running around not having a clue what is going on. :chuckle

Just so you know, LVN's are way more then that. Hold that License proud!!!!

Well said. :nurse:

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At the bottom of my screen is an ad which reads "LPN, accredited in 3-12 months"...sorry. I don't want anyone with that little training taking care of me. The hospital here has almost phased out all LPN's. We have them at my SNF but not usually on the subacute/rehab floor. Licensed PRACTICAL nurse....read your state nurse practice act...in my state at least, an LPN can't really be in charge of an RN...the RN always "outranks" the LPN.

Please tell me where I can get my LPN is 3 months? I'm an LPN in Ma.

and that's insane. By the way since you don't want someone with such

little training taking care of you, you better make sure you never get a new

grad.

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At the bottom of my screen is an ad which reads "LPN, accredited in 3-12 months"...sorry. I don't want anyone with that little training taking care of me. The hospital here has almost phased out all LPN's. We have them at my SNF but not usually on the subacute/rehab floor. Licensed PRACTICAL nurse....read your state nurse practice act...in my state at least, an LPN can't really be in charge of an RN...the RN always "outranks" the LPN.

#1 How sad for your hospitals, the nation has a nursing shortage and they "phase out LPNs"

#2 I worked in a hospital for 5+yrs as an LPN working on several units and other then being able to hang blood, chemo,push meds,hang TPN and pronounce a death,, I held my own and did quite well NEVER once did I feel inadequate because I was an LPN.

#3 just because an RN "outranks" an LPN, does not make her more capable of doing his/her job or supervising others. An LPN can be in charge of an RN, however lets remember this, LPNs don't power trip like some RNs do when it comes to who is in charge..We are a bit more humble and respectful to our co workers because we are taught that nursing in general is a struggle with all the constant changes and the differences in the people we care for on a daily basis. We are prepared to "defend" our knowledge and skills against RNs who have nothing better to do then question who is better then who...personally I have always enjoyed working with RNs who respect their co workers and are grateful for all the staff...

#4 I have supervised RNs and I still do and never am I or my abilities to do so an issue...Its all about RESPECT sweetie...and I am sure that if my superiors did not think I was capable of doing so, they would not leave me in charge of a 145 bed facility that has a LTC unit, and Aliz unit an Acute Care and also a Sub acute care unit. I call on the RNs to hang TPN and push IV meds and sometimes pronounce a death and NEVER have I met resistance because I was an LPN..

#5 If you plan on staying in nursing for any length of time, may I suggest you learn a little humility and remember we are all in this together....When I became an LPN it took me 24 months of hard work and dedication...and now RNS are graduating after 24 months...dare you tell me I am not qualified..

#6 Please do not apply to work in the State of PA.. your attitude and assumptions of LPN's will not be welcomed!!!

doin' a MAJOR Happy Dance in this GREAT professional field I have chosen to be a part of!!!!!

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You tell her PA.

But you know you can't tell people like her anything. Like for example she

so very concerned that some like me would take care of her-you know a LPN.

She would rather my 2 year co-worker RN friend who gave insulin a couple

of months ago in a regular syringe sending that Pt to the ICU-it was a honest

mistake and an accident-one she will never repeat-but one I never made or

like the other night several months ago-when all three RNs were flushing the

PICC line wrong, it was me the LPN-who showed them. Now granted these

are afew mistakes and I work with some of the best RNs ever but they also

make mistakes I would think you would want the best nurse to take care

of you-but maybe for her that will always be an RN.

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Just more evidence that we need revamping of our nursing programs in this country.

It's sad that we all want to be stronger and unified and yet still bicker day to day about who is a better/more qualified nurse.

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Specializes in Hospice, LTC, CBRF, and Home Health.

Actualy I was a CNA where I used to live up nouth and worked in an LTC setting.

I did the same duties as the LPN (pass meds, do tx, admister insulin, ect,) and was still a CNA only I had to go through 4 hours of training to do it for a classification of Med cretified CNA.

Jus my 2 cents

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I recently had a couple of nurses tell me that LPN's are just basically glorified aids in LTC settings.

I though that LPN's did mostly the same work as RN's in the LTC setting.

I know that everyone needs to be a team and pitch in and get whatever needs to be done, done. But LPN's as glorified aids? Why go to LPN school then?

What are typical LPN duties in a LTC setting?

I worked in LTC for 17 years and the LPNs were indispensible. They did meds, treatments, cathaterizations, called the physicians, documentation, etc...just like the RNs. The aides performed direct patient care. In addition, the LPNs were well compensated. That may not be the case in other LTC facilities, but it is the rule in this area.

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I Have Worked In Various Settings As An Lpn, There Are Rn's Who I Love To Work With and There Are Rn's Who Make Me Wonder How They Made It Through School.....this Is Also True For Some Of The Other Lpn's...I Have Seen Both Rn's And Lpns Who Are Just In The Profession For The Almighty Dollar. Then I Have Seen Those Who Care Enough About The Profession To Make It Their Duty To Know Their Pts And Care They Need,to The Point You Would Not Know If The Person Was A Rn Or Lpn Unless You Looked At Their Name Tag. Arrogance And Ignorance May Take Some People A Long Way....but True Hard Work Will Prevail In The End......*Depending On The Setting Majority Of The Jobs We Performed Together Were Exactly The Same, With The Exception The Rn's Made More Money Due To There Degree's...... There Have Been Times When I Corrected An Rn, but There Have Also Been Times When I Went To The Rn For An Opinion and Vise Versa..it Was Called Team Work...and It Worked Well For Us...as For Cna's They Deserve More Credit Than What They Get, Without Them A Lot Of Rn's And Lpn's Would Be Lost. *CONTINUING ED IS ALSO A BIG FACTOR*

*I,do respect the RN's and the training they have....I'm not asking for praise, but just the same respect in return....Treat others as you wish to be treated*

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