Lifestyle Discrimination

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Should lifestyle discrimination be legal ? With the rising cost of healthcare, companies are looking for ways to save money. Across the US, many companies, including hospitals, are refusing to hire employees who's lifestyle is deemed to be high risk.

Users of tobacco, though perfectly legal, are being told that they aren't entitled to have a job because they smoke or chew tobacco. And many supporters of this new type of discrimination are living very high risk lifestyles themselves. Although they may not yet be aware, companies know when they've stumbled on to something that increases their profits. Eventually, many other groups will be added to the list of unacceptable lifestyles, including those who are over-weight, drink alcohol, poor eating habits, etc. And with advancements in genetic testing and lifestyle screening, the practice of refusing to hire, refusing to insure, or denying many of the opportunities that were once equally available to all, might very well be the way of things to come in America.

How bad does the discrimination have to get before people will begin to recognize it for what it truly is, and take action to stop it?

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.

yes, but the employers have all the power and our legislators and SCOTUS seem content to give away our rights to corporate interests.

We already are subject to unlawful search of our bodily fluids...

Specializes in CCU, SICU, CVSICU, Precepting & Teaching.
Ruby, The fitness test suggestion was a sarcastic one. :) There are a whole boatload of problems with that; ableism comes to mind. Why not have job qualification be about your ability to perform your job functions, and not other random factors. And that, my friends, is what this entire thread is about. Selecting employees based on BMI is just as assinine as giving them fitness tests!

I got that it was sarcastic; sorry that didn't come across in my post.

As far as I know, Capitalism has always trumped Ethics in the US. Probably not going to change in my lifetime.

Show me where a complete absence of capitalism has resulted in a higher ethical standard. Under which system has a higher ethical standard existed? Also consider that in a capitalist society the greatest power is in the hands of the consumer, though he/she often forgets this fact. The fact is that corporations will yield to the demands of the consumer. It is up to the consumer to demand higher standards from the corporations, when the individual becomes unethical the corporation then follows. The main problem with capitalism is that the individual forgets he/she has the ultimate power. We become slaves to basic instinct and anything that provides immediate gratification rules the day. The corporations only give us what we want, eventually we let them tell us what we want. It is the fault of the individual if ethics are trumped in favor of capitalism. At least with capitalism the individual has the freedom to choose which path to take, not so with other systems.

Specializes in Transitional Nursing.

The lifestyle should not be an issue, but, said employee should be held to the same standards as everyone else. ie: limited sick time, (no excused absences for bronchitis d/t smoking), work performance should be the same as anyone elses, no extra breaks etc.

I don't think what people do in their off time is anyone's business, BUT if what they do in their off time effects them at work, they should be held accountable.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.

Corporations seek profit.

If they can legislate consumer compliance and participation they don't have to meet consumer needs.

Profit is the goal, not consumer satisfaction.

Corporations seek profit.

If they can legislate consumer compliance and participation they don't have to meet consumer needs.

Profit is the goal, not consumer satisfaction.

Consumer satisfaction translates to higher profits.

Specializes in med, surg,trauma, triage, research.

of course this is not common sense, we all have frailties' in common, that's what makes us human, I'm reminded of the Monty Python sketch in Life of Brian..."who threw that stone?"....making sense of the frailty and incorporating it into a fulfilled life is what the human experience is all about...profits are another story, this one has profit stamped all over it.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
Consumer satisfaction translates to higher profits.

It surely does in the customer service industry.

In health care the outcome data used to drive consumer behavior. Why do you suppose we have moved away from that model?

Consumer satisfaction translates to higher profits.

That is the logical way things should be, however costumer satisfaction has been put under profits. That why we hear the annoying menu of choices when we call a service or company. Or also why companies mostly don't care about the quality of the service they provide, AKA cable companies and their motto of " A technician will be there between 8 am and 6pm " lol.

Plain and simple, you hire someone based on their ability to do a job.

As a fat cardiac nurse, I sometimes feel hypocritical, but I also know that as a fat patient, I am way more likely to tune out the fit and trim nurse's weight loss lectures because she has no clue what kind of struggle it really is. I am also a cath lab nurse, and I have got to tell you I see way more health nuts with serious clogged coronaries than I do fat people with no other health risks (me). (Diabetic smoking fat people are a different story).

If I owned a business, I wouldnt have a problem hiring smokers, again I am hiring them to do a job. But... if they took more than their 2 regulated breaks and lunch to smoke, that would be an issue. So would the smoke smell (not all people smell like a chimney) If the smell were distracting, then that would also be an issue.

We all know that there is a good majority of nurses who drink like fish and are party whores, but they dont bring it to work. Dont tell me they all dont do their job well.

There comes a time when people need to start minding their own business. As nurses, we cannot save the world, but I can tell you that as negative busy bodies we will save far fewer.

Specializes in Transitional Nursing.
(not all people smell like a chimney) If the smell were distracting, then that would also be an issue.

THANK YOU. I've had this argument before, and since we're on the internet, I know no one believes me, BUT, I don't always smell like smoke, and sometimes I totally do.

Specializes in NICU, PICU, Transport, L&D, Hospice.
THANK YOU. I've had this argument before, and since we're on the internet, I know no one believes me, BUT, I don't always smell like smoke, and sometimes I totally do.

I find the smell of stale tobacco and smoke much more offensive than the smell of a freshly smoked cigarette lingering on the smoker. So, I imagine if the smoker doesn't wash their hair everyday, or wears the same coat/garments to smoke everyday that the 'old' stale smell will become overpowering.

Maybe it also has something to do with the brand of tobacco products?

I dunno, but some smokers stink and some, well not so much.

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