licensure questions for the US

PROVERBS · Jun 10, 2007

hi! i'm taking the CGFNS exam this September and I'm planning to apply for NCLEX this month. Just wanted to ask the following:

1. I want to apply for NM because of its speedy processing but my heart's is in NY. I understand that if I choose NY, it will take me 9-11 months unlike NM which will only take me 3 months at most. I'm planning to apply for NM and then apply an endorsement/reciprocity for NY after. How long will the reciprocity will take? Is the time needed to apply for reciprocity equivalent to the time if I apply directly to NY instead of NM and then later endorse to NY? Which plan should I take: NM then endorse to NY or apply directly to NY? Which time will cost me less?

2. does NY require an SS# before they will issue the license just like in CA? I couldn't find a NY question & answer forum like this.

I'm hoping that you guys could help me with my dilemma. THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH! GOD BLESS :)

suzanne4, RN · Jun 11, 2007

Please take the time to do some reading on this forum, in particular the Primer at the top of this forum. There is quite a bit of information there that you need to be aware of.

NY requires the CVS, not the CES. That usually takes about 8 months to get it done. And it is required to endorse as well, so you would be just adding that time onto the time for NM. Just wasting money, will not speed up anything at all. The other issue that you need to be aware of is that you will only be able to find work in a nursing home in NY, there are no hospitals that will petition you. So you will be legally responsible for 30 to 60 patients each and every shift that you work.

CGFNS exam is not required, so not sure why you are wasting your time and money for that exam. It will not help you in anyway at all.

PROVERBS · Jun 11, 2007

Please take the time to do some reading on this forum, in particular the Primer at the top of this forum. There is quite a bit of information there that you need to be aware of.
NY requires the CVS, not the CES. That usually takes about 8 months to get it done. And it is required to endorse as well, so you would be just adding that time onto the time for NM. Just wasting money, will not speed up anything at all. The other issue that you need to be aware of is that you will only be able to find work in a nursing home in NY, there are no hospitals that will petition you. So you will be legally responsible for 30 to 60 patients each and every shift that you work.
CGFNS exam is not required, so not sure why you are wasting your time and money for that exam. It will not help you in anyway at all.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM SUZANNE.

Ma'am, i would like to ask if i apply to NM and apply for a reciprocity for NY after, do i need to apply still for CVS? is reciprocity and endorsement mean the same thing?

THANK YOU SO MUCH! I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

Silverdragon102, BSN · Jun 11, 2007

THANK YOU SO MUCH MA'AM SUZANNE.
Ma'am, i would like to ask if i apply to NM and apply for a reciprocity for NY after, do i need to apply still for CVS? is reciprocity and endorsement mean the same thing?
THANK YOU SO MUCH! I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

No such thing as reciprocity you go through a process called endorcement. If endorcing to NY you still have to go through CVS

lawrence01 · Jun 12, 2007

First and foremost is to do a substantial research on where you want to work and take it from there.

Applying to NY has some issues, one of w/c is the time for CVS (Credential Verification Service from CGFNS) usually takes and another consideration is usually nursing homes are the ones that are available and most are affiliated w/ agencies, so you have to go through them. Other reasons are that many people who do not have relatives in NY where they can live or 'rent' in a discounted price, are usually forced to rent an apartment 1-2 hours commute outside Manhattan to be able to save money and they are still forced to share it w/ their colleagues. It seems the salary they are getting from non-Hospital based nursing work in Manhattan is not enough for rents w/in Manhattan, even if they have to share the rental fee.

Also, if you want to save money and time you can't go wrong w/ applying directly to the State where you want to work in the 1st place. In the end, it comes out the same. You may have saved some time in the beginning but after the endorsement fees and processing time (you have to pay separate fees from both states to endorse) it ends up almost the same in terms of time and sometimes more time overall (i.e. endorsing to NY) and definitely a lot more money just to endorse.

Many foreign nurses also picks a State on whether that State requires the CGFNS Certification (CGFNS exam) or not. Which ones require it or not, you have to research on your own by going to their respective websites and the most updated information regarding foreign nurse requirements are in their websites. You can check out the diff. websites from http://www.ncsbn.org

For visa screen certification (VSC), it would be best to apply if you already passed the NCLEX or the CGFNS exam (if applicable) and the English exams (IELTS or TOEFL) since CGFNS now requires only 1 year for all the requirements to be submitted or you have to pay another fee to extend it. Before, we advice that the visa screen certification process be started even w/o the exam results yet since it can be submitted on a latter date and there was still no one year deadline to submit all requirements. Some are taking more than a year to have the proof of passing results for the exams to be completed and are forced to pay an additional fee to extend the 1 year deadline, so it would be best if you already passed at least one exam req't before you start the visa screen certification process. If there were no 1 year deadline to submit all requirements and you can guarantee to yourself that you can pass and submit all passing exam results w/in a year then you can start the VSC process just by submitting the application forms, fee, and your Transcript of Records and just submit the passing exam results in a latter date (within a year).

PROVERBS · Jun 12, 2007

First and foremost is to do a substantial research on where you want to work and take it from there.
Applying to NY has some issues, one of w/c is the time for CVS (Credential Verification Service from CGFNS) usually takes and another consideration is usually nursing homes are the ones that are available and most are affiliated w/ agencies, so you have to go through them. Other reasons are that many people who do not have relatives in NY where they can live or 'rent' in a discounted price, are usually forced to rent an apartment 1-2 hours commute outside Manhattan to be able to save money and they are still forced to share it w/ their colleagues. It seems the salary they are getting from non-Hospital based nursing work in Manhattan is not enough for rents w/in Manhattan, even if they have to share the rental fee.
Also, if you want to save money and time you can't go wrong w/ applying directly to the State where you want to work in the 1st place. In the end, it comes out the same. You may have saved some time in the beginning but after the endorsement fees and processing time (you have to pay separate fees from both states to endorse) it ends up almost the same in terms of time and sometimes more time overall (i.e. endorsing to NY) and definitely a lot more money just to endorse.
Many foreign nurses also picks a State on whether that State requires the CGFNS Certification (CGFNS exam) or not. Which ones require it or not, you have to research on your own by going to their respective websites and the most updated information regarding foreign nurse requirements are in their websites. You can check out the diff. websites from www.ncsbn.org
For visa screen certification (VSC), it would be best to apply if you already passed the NCLEX or the CGFNS exam (if applicable) and the English exams (IELTS or TOEFL) since CGFNS now requires only 1 year for all the requirements to be submitted or you have to pay another fee to extend it. Before, we advice that the visa screen certification process be started even w/o the exam results yet since it can be submitted on a latter date and there was still no one year deadline to submit all requirements. Some are taking more than a year to have the proof of passing results for the exams to be completed and are forced to pay an additional fee to extend the 1 year deadline, so it would be best if you already passed at least one exam req't before you start the visa screen certification process. If there were no 1 year deadline to submit all requirements and you can guarantee to yourself that you can pass and submit all passing exam results w/in a year then you can start the VSC process just by submitting the application forms, fee, and your Transcript of Records and just submit the passing exam results in a latter date (within a year).

THANK YOU! YOU ARE INDEED A BLESSING! GOD BLESS!:)