Is This A Normal Practice???

[kersti]

I was just wondering if it's normal that when you work a 12 hr shift- say 7pm to 7am, that you are expected to be there 15 minutes early and stay 15 minutes later in order to receive/make report?

And if yes, does this get payed separately? Because the hours do add up if you're doing this 3 times a week, the whole year round.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[jmgrn65, RN]

I wish we had it that good here!

I have tried discussing this where I work. I work 7p-7a in ICU. Days works 7a to 730p. Well, we have an overlap at noc, but not in am. Noone agrees that this should be changed. I am just automatically expected to be here 1/2 to an hour late every morning. I am not happy about it at all, but of course noone cares.

Christine

The hospital doesn't care about the budget, because those hours add up.

[jmgrn65, RN]

We are scheduled 7-7:30 12 hours days or night the overlap is for getting report, etc. our 30 min lunch is not paid. so we are paid 12 hours.

[FNimuaeMae]

We also do 12's in an ICU setting, but there is a timeclock we swipe in at. The day staff are expected there at 7a, tardy after 707a.... the night staff is not allowed to swipe in til 708p, but we are not tardy til after 715p. the days staff has a mandatory 30 min lunch break, but there is no break on nite shift... we can punch out anytime in the AM after the work is done, which the earliest after report for me has been 707a. I think the day staff shouldn't swipe out til after 723p. I don't start report or anything til after I punch in... and if they ask me to do something after I punch out, oh well, sorry, I'm off the clock!

Missy

[UM Review RN, ASN, RN]

I was just wondering if it's normal that when you work a 12 hr shift- say 7pm to 7am, that you are expected to be there 15 minutes early and stay 15 minutes later in order to receive/make report?

And if yes, does this get payed separately? Because the hours do add up if you're doing this 3 times a week, the whole year round.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

When you come onto the floor ready to work--which includes getting Report--you need to get paid for it.

Reason is insurance. Suppose you're in Report and suddenly there's a fire or a multiple Code or whatever. You're going to run out, punch the clock and THEN go help?

I think not.

Now suppose you're at the big Code or the fire or whatever--and you're injured. But you're not clocked in. You aren't officially "there" until you clock in, so therefore, you're not covered.

Just my spin on the issue.

[Gompers, BSN, RN]

im wondering about labour laws-who else works 3.5 hours extra per pay period without renumeration?

Labor laws? I don't understand what the big deal is...

Some places have you work 0645-1915 and 1845-0715, others do 0700-1930 and 1900-0730 - same difference in hours, just different times. You do not get paid for your 30 minute lunch break, so even though you're there for 12-1/2 hours, you're only getting paid for 12 of them. It's perfectly legal. Everyplace I've ever worked (hospitals AND regular businesses), we never got paid for our 30 minute lunch break.

Of course we need some overlap time. You can't just tag-team with nursing. There needs to be a half hour or so for you to report off on your patients to the oncoming staff.

I'm still confused as to why there is so much confusion?

[weirdRN, RN]

Its federal law that you get a 1/2 hour or thirty minute break per eight hour shift. My reference for this is the Department of Labor website.

Every shift at the place where I currently work comes in a half an hour early so that we get report and are ready to start at the appointed hour (7,3,11) and you tend to get out on time too, but you only get paid for eight hours. Also, you are supposed to have a paid fifteen minute break every four hours that you work according to that website.

Unfortunately, those breaks almost never happen for me and my lunch is ALWAYS interupted.

[catlady, BSN, RN]

We also do 12's in an ICU setting, but there is a timeclock we swipe in at. The day staff are expected there at 7a, tardy after 707a.... the night staff is not allowed to swipe in til 708p, but we are not tardy til after 715p. the days staff has a mandatory 30 min lunch break, but there is no break on nite shift... we can punch out anytime in the AM after the work is done, which the earliest after report for me has been 707a. I think the day staff shouldn't swipe out til after 723p. I don't start report or anything til after I punch in... and if they ask me to do something after I punch out, oh well, sorry, I'm off the clock!

I'll bet I know what hospital you're at in CT. I remember the night supervisor telling us we weren't entitled to any kind of break because we were only scheduled for twelve hours, not twelve-and-a-half like day shift. Labor laws, anyone?