Is this a smart tactic in huddle...

[AnnoyedNurse]

Just a question. Today during huddle our nurse manager brought up a story about a nurse in the 70's who was convicted of murder for hiding a mistake that she made. Granted she's trying to teach nurses to hold themselves accountable but is this a good leadership tactic? I'm not sure and so that's why I am asking what other nurse managers think. Thank you.

[nurse2033, MSN, RN]

All other considerations aside, nursing practice has changed a bit since the 70s. I would think a more relevant and relateable example would be far more effective.

[jollygreenRN]

Just a question. Today during huddle our nurse manager brought up a story about a nurse in the 70's who was convicted of murder for hiding a mistake that she made. Granted she's trying to teach nurses to hold themselves accountable but is this a good leadership tactic? I'm not sure and so that's why I am asking what other nurse managers think. Thank you.

Why don't you ask the Nurse Manager yourself? Explain why you want to go over the "teaching moment" (thinking of becoming a HM as a career choice). You can learn more this way with immediate interaction with the HM. Just do it respectfully, asking if you can talk about it in private.

[bwilliams3385]

I don't think it's up to you to to tell someone what " is an appropriate venue " to question a managers leadership. This whole forum is for sharing our opinions and ideas.

[bwilliams3385]

"I don't think this is an appropriate venue to question your managers leadership tactics."

I don't agree with that statement. And as a manager, I think talking about things that

have actually occurred are a great way to show that nurses consequences are sometimes

very high, and we have to be very careful.

[jrt4]

"I don't think this is an appropriate venue to question your managers leadership tactics."

I don't agree with that statement. And as a manager, I think talking about things that

have actually occurred are a great way to show that nurses consequences are sometimes

very high, and we have to be very careful.

I think you are confused about the context of my post in relation to the OP. I don't think an anonymous forum is a good place to discuss if what a manager did was right or wrong when the object of the conversation is so subjective. I am not saying that what the manager said was the inappropriate venue. Sharing real life examples can be an effective tool to influence staff. However, using it as a "scare tactic" is not effective. We shouldn't have to scare our staff into doing the right thing. If that is the case either A. I am not an effective leader, or B. I have staff that need to be counseled out of the system.

[AnnoyedNurse]

I think you are confused about the context of my post in relation to the OP. I don't think an anonymous forum is a good place to discuss if what a manager did was right or wrong when the object of the conversation is so subjective. I am not saying that what the manager said was the inappropriate venue. Sharing real life examples can be an effective tool to influence staff. However, using it as a "scare tactic" is not effective. We shouldn't have to scare our staff into doing the right thing. If that is the case either A. I am not an effective leader, or B. I have staff that need to be counseled out of the system.

Wait I am confused. Why is this not an appropriate forum? I think it's the most appropriate forum. It allows me to get the opinion of other professional nurses without having to discuss it with my coworkers or other leaders at my hospital who would assume the statement came from my leader and potentially reflect poorly on her.

Allnurses has been an incredible resource for me and many nurses and quite frankly, you are nobody to tell me what is appropriate to post here.

With that said- my question was a nursing management topic. I have gained some real life insight and have drawn up my own conclusions and will be able to incorporate it into my own practice.

Thank you for your opinion but please refrain from telling people what is or is not appropriate to post here. You are not the Nurse God.

[JessiJam]

My nursing class attended a BON meeting, and we watched as people's licenses were suspended and revoked. It was an object lesson that has stayed with me - and that was more than 20 years ago.

Great point. It's those harsh realities that sit with you. Over time, I'm sure we've all heard of situations and outcomes that we wouldn't have normally considered possible.

And as others pointed out, it's all about delivery in the context of teaching.

[jrt4]

Wait I am confused. Why is this not an appropriate forum? I think it's the most appropriate forum. It allows me to get the opinion of other professional nurses without having to discuss it with my coworkers or other leaders at my hospital who would assume the statement came from my leader and potentially reflect poorly on her.

Allnurses has been an incredible resource for me and many nurses and quite frankly, you are nobody to tell me what is appropriate to post here.

With that said- my question was a nursing management topic. I have gained some real life insight and have drawn up my own conclusions and will be able to incorporate it into my own practice.

Thank you for your opinion but please refrain from telling people what is or is not appropriate to post here. You are not the Nurse God.

I was talking about my original post... we have since cleared this up in a later post... "Nurse God" I like that...mods can I have my title changed?

[Orca, ADN, ASN, RN]

And as a manager, I think talking about things that

have actually occurred are a great way to show that nurses consequences are sometimes

very high, and we have to be very careful.

I graduated nursing school more than 20 years ago, and I still remember a statement that one of our instructors delivered to us. A nursing student from another school administered digoxin to a patient at one of the hospitals where we did clinicals without checking the patient's pulse first. The patient died.