Is having a ADN useless these days?

Nursing Students ADN/BSN

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Do employers favor those with a BSN ?

It's fine if you do not feel a BSN will do you any good. And it's fine to say that you don't think a BSN is worth your time or money. But there is no reason for you to sit there and say the BSN is a fluff program that produces theorists.

Let's just have solace in the fact that she won't be in charge of hiring anyone anytime soon.

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:lol2:

I'm immature because I don't agree with you? I'll take it!

It's not about agreeing with me. It's about the fact that you repeat the same things without listening to logic, but it's very cute that you read into things and just come out with an outcome that makes sense to you.

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Does anyone else get this "I'm better than/smarter than you" type vibe when reading some of triquee's posts?

:barf01: That's how I feel about that.

I think she's trying to overcompensate.

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The point is that when presented with logical facts, one should at least be able to say, "I understand" instead of just sticking with their opinion. It's not about changing an opinion, but simply acknowledging that there are other logical opinions out there besides your own.

However, the only reply we get are more opinions on how the BSN is fluff and produces theorists.

Triquee, would you like us to all say your Bachelor's degree is fluff and that you wasted time and money on that? That all of the classes you took and hours you spent working hard on the program was wasted and essentially useless? That you learned nothing from your Bachelor's program, despite everything that was put into it?

The point is that MOST people on here don't have to complete 1 class to get their BSN. It is a combination of different courses (some of which may include an extra clinical experience) they have to complete to earn it and they should not have to hear from an ADN student (which I am also), that they are in a fluff program that produces theorists.

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Specializes in ICU.
You seriously think you can understand an entire college course based on a website discussion board on allnurses? Wow. Guess I can call myself a hematologist then since I know so much about hematology from all of my reading. That's quite a narrow minded attitude.

My impressions of nursing theory are formed from reading the ideas of the theorists themselves. They do publish books, articles, and studies, you know, like the ones you might read for a theory course, for example.

Really all that's left and all that is left are two different things. Meaning, there are other courses you would need to take to get the BSN.

That's really all that's left...Really, really. No, really.

That's really as in certainly (synonyms).

And what I've seen is you keep calling the BSN "fluff." You call BSN's "theorists" also. Really? So the BSN's take fluff courses and are a bunch of theorists. I do consider that an attack. What a great attitude.

This comment displays such a flagrant lack of understanding of what is being discussed here, that responding would be completely cost prohibitive. In other words, the amount of time I would have to invest to spell out to you, the unstated understandings that the majority of participants (aside from you) in this discussion have been able to intuit, would completely outweigh any benefit to you or to me.

And no, I will not explain the above statement to you, either.

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My impressions of nursing theory are formed from reading the ideas of the theorists themselves. They do publish books, articles, and studies, you know, like the ones you might read for a theory course, for example.

That's really all that's left...Really, really. No, really.

That's really as in certainly (synonyms).

This comment displays such a flagrant lack of understanding of what is being discussed here, that responding would be completely cost prohibitive. In other words, the amount of time I would have to invest to spell out to you, the unstated understandings that the majority of participants (aside from you) in this discussion have been able to intuit, would completely outweigh any benefit to you or to me.

Wow.

I reported this post. It's about time this is shut down. I NEVER called you any names. Just shows how mature you are.

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Specializes in School Nursing.

I think you guys are unfairly attacking Triquee. IMO- she seems like a pretty smart woman who knows where she wants to go in life. If someone is not interested in furthering their education and are not required by their employer/profession to do so, why is that such a bad thing?

If someone considers a BSN fluff, that is their opinion. Some people consider a liberal arts degree fluff. Some people consider a psych degree fluff. It's all a matter of opinion and everyone is entitled to one.

I, personally, believe the more education the better. I am aiming for a BSN... FWIW

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triquee, you are in for a rude awakening in the real world.

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Specializes in ICU.
I think she's trying to overcompensate.

You value education right?

Put your money where your mouth is...

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Wow.

I reported this post. It's about time this is shut down. I NEVER called you any names. Just shows how mature you are.

I say the following with sincerity: There is no point in reporting because it is not a violation of TOS to be illogical.

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Specializes in ICU.
You are in for a rude awakening.

We all are, my dear. For one reason or another.

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Specializes in ICU.
I think you guys are unfairly attacking Triquee. IMO- she seems like a pretty smart woman who knows where she wants to go in life. If someone is not interested in furthering their education and are not required by their employer/profession to do so, why is that such a bad thing?

If someone considers a BSN fluff, that is their opinion. Some people consider a liberal arts degree fluff. Some people consider a psych degree fluff. It's all a matter of opinion and everyone is entitled to one.

I, personally, believe the more education the better. I am aiming for a BSN... FWIW

Thank you!!! You "get it" :bow:

There's enough change and variation in this world. And unfortunately, there are no guarantees. The best we can do is what makes sense for us individually and what makes sense for someone else doesn't always make sense for you or I. We may all aspire to nursing, but we don't all start from the same line. That's what's so great (in my opinion) about the degree structure. It's smart too. Because like so few other professions, it increases the odds that there will be someone to do the work of caring for the sick and dying. If every aspiring nurse had to invest 4 years and tens of thousands of dollars, the nursing population would likely thin, in part from a lack of interest from second degree students.

For my personal journey, I'm not looking to advance in the profession. I don't want to be anybody's manager. My target jobs after I graduate are those that serve underprivileged or underrepresented populations, rural populations. I want to give back, not get ahead. So I'm getting the skills that will allow me to do that as soon as possible.

Good luck in school! I'm sure you'll ROCK it!

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