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I did try apply at ISA 4U last november 2008, but when I found out about the amount of money needed for the processing, I backed out! Firstly, because I can't produce such amount so I need to loan. But the problem is that I know I wouldn't be able to pay for it even after 2 years of working there because of the high cost of living. Secondly, it's not an assurance that I can apply for a poststudy visa and what more to get ONP and work permit there as a nurse. I guess it's not good for RNs/BSNs because this won't be counted as nurse experience.

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hello to all who participated in this forum!

i thank you all for the very informative opinions you've got here.

its only yesterday when i attended the free orientation of ISA. true, its very tempting to apply to their program especially for people who are unemployed and for those who really wanted to go abroad hoping to earn more. they've been clear to us that we cant work there as a nurse. we will go there as a student and at the same time, we will be working as carers. they also told us the only allowable working hours per week because they know that Filipinos love OTs. They've disclosed that it will be very expensive but they also got ways of helping those who cant afford. despite the big amount needed to be in their program, still, many of the attendees became interested and have signed, and im one of them even if there's a doubt, anyway, we are free to back out. honestly, im already thinking of getting started with the application process but after reading those negative posts, a humongous uncertainty came in.

after all, im still undecided... half cut!

please help me decide!

here are some reasons why half of me wants to apply to their program

- it is really my dream to go to London

- i think that the small amount that will be left in my salary (minus everything i need to pay) is still bigger than what i can get from hospitals here (to have something is better than to have nothing)

- personal experience

- new techniques

- new friends (if you manage to build good friendship with the foreigners, they may help you cope with the difficulties that you will encounter in the host country)

if possible, i want to hear from those who have applied in ISA and are now deployed in UK.

waaaaaaaah! it's so hard to decide!

anyway, thank you for all the information! i need to weigh things!!!!!

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If London is your destination then you really are going to struggle to live. The most expensive place in the UK . Also if you are on a student visa then there will be restrictions on how many hours you can work and if you are caught doing over them hours it is grounds to get visa cancelled and you have to leave the UK. What are you going to do once your student visa is up, they will not renew indefinitely?

They can promise all they want but immigration issue the visas and will have questions and if too many get abused and this is what I think the company is doing, then you are going to have problems getting the visa. The UK is gong through some very tough times at the moment and companies are closing that have been around decades which means more people in the workplace looking for other work.

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The student visa will not permit them to stay when that contract is up. There is no way that they will be permitted to remain there and work in any capacity. The visa with this type of program is severely limited.

Next question would be why in the world would anyone with a four year BSN want to work as unskilled laborer and this is what they would be. They cannot do one thing that requires a license, or they are subject to immediate deportation, they will not have a license to do anything there at all. Makes absolutely no sense to me at all. And then one does not have current work experience as an RN either, so that will actually work against them later on. These programs can promise all that they want, but the fact remains that the UK government is not going to have visas as nurse for them later on, and without current experience as an RN, there would be no way for them to get a visa as an RN later on if visas would become available.

Only person that gets helped is the owner of the program that makes money from them; definitely not the care-giver.

You guys talk too much about study and work program as if you know everything about it and how it really works. You are saying that they are only allowed to work for only 20 hours per week right? Yes you are absolutely correct about it "BUT" it is allowed if it is a requirement of their university or colleges. My friend is already in the UK through ISA and working as a caregiver and having her BSC degree course. We both understand that our education system here in the Philippines for nurses is not enough for them to be recognize as a registered nurse in other country specially in the UK that is why she decided to grab the opportunity to study and work at the same time in the UK.

For all the registered nurses here in the Phils i know that you also want to be recognized in other country aswell but it cannot be a ground to bypass the requirements that other countries requires us.

If ever the immigration rules for working permit becomes available after several years, rest assured that who already finished the study and work program will be the first priority than those who are still here in the Philippine.

God Bless us all.. .

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You guys talk too much about study and work program as if you know everything about it and how it really works. You are saying that they are only allowed to work for only 20 hours per week right? Yes you are absolutely correct about it "BUT" it is allowed if it is a requirement of their university or colleges. My friend is already in the UK through ISA and working as a caregiver and having her BSC degree course. We both understand that our education system here in the Philippines for nurses is not enough for them to be recognize as a registered nurse in other country specially in the UK that is why she decided to grab the opportunity to study and work at the same time in the UK.

For all the registered nurses here in the Phils i know that you also want to be recognized in other country aswell but it cannot be a ground to bypass the requirements that other countries requires us.

If ever the immigration rules for working permit becomes available after several years, rest assured that who already finished the study and work program will be the first priority than those who are still here in the Philippine.

God Bless us all.. .

But working as a carer is not working as a RN and that is what will give the advantage if immigration changes and opens up. Current experience working as a nurse will be what employers will be looking for. This I doubt will happen as the UK currently is going through some very tough times and the government has already stated they are going to make it harder to bring in foreign workers.

What is your friend going to do when they have finished the course and can not stay in the UK?

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You guys talk too much about study and work program as if you know everything about it and how it really works. You are saying that they are only allowed to work for only 20 hours per week right? Yes you are absolutely correct about it "BUT" it is allowed if it is a requirement of their university or colleges. My friend is already in the UK through ISA and working as a caregiver and having her BSC degree course. We both understand that our education system here in the Philippines for nurses is not enough for them to be recognize as a registered nurse in other country specially in the UK that is why she decided to grab the opportunity to study and work at the same time in the UK.

For all the registered nurses here in the Phils i know that you also want to be recognized in other country aswell but it cannot be a ground to bypass the requirements that other countries requires us.

If ever the immigration rules for working permit becomes available after several years, rest assured that who already finished the study and work program will be the first priority than those who are still here in the Philippine.

God Bless us all.. .

You are the one who very obviously know nothing about it. At least not the legal way, there's absolutly no legal requirement to work overtime as a caregiver, so they are abusing the system.

The filipino education was recognized in the UK, they had to do the adjustment course, like every foreign educated nurse here, who's not from an EU country. I work with many nurses who were trained in the Philippines.

A nurse who has no current experience as a RN will have only disadvantages, it makes no difference if this Nurse is allready in the UK on a student visa.

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hi good evening!

just read your forum and i wanted to post a message for all of you.. i applied as a caregiver in international student advisors 4u in makati and to tell you, i've been waiting 4 more than 1 year and till now i still don't have my visa.. i paid them £ 2500 pounds and that time it is equivalent to 98 pesos per pound 245,000

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eila 26, i thought the processing takes 4-6 weeks only, at least that's what they say anyway.

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Guys just want to ask if you know about this...

Iv been doin a lot of readings lately here in this forum and i have found some helpful ideas about going on with this work-study placement scheme of ISA 4U Inc. just want to ask if you know about BSc International Nursing top up with Overseas Nursing Programme that they offer in University of Hertfordshire? basically its a 2 year course and you will be able work in a placement i think as a carer and you will need an IELTS score of 6 to enter the program.. after completing the degree you will be allowed to stay for a year i think for your Post-study work and work full time then during this time they will help you in applying with the Nursing Midwifery Council if you meet the requirements then you will have your acceptance letter from NMC and you will now be given the opportunity to enroll in the ONP.I've checked with the NMC website University Of Hertfordshire is listed with them as one of the schools that offer the Overseas Nursing Program.

Anybody here in the forums know about this route? i already have an IELTS score of 7 on all bands however i only have at least 6 months of nursing experience being a hemodialysis nurse is it advisable to take the degree of BSC International Nursing then after completion apply for an ONP..or should i just continue to have more experience being a hemodialysis nurse for a year and apply directly to the ONP? of course after meeting the requirements with the Nursing Midwifery Council. is it that hard to apply with the NMC? i really need your comments and suggestions regarding this guys!thanks in advance hope you can shed light on this matter thanks!

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eila 26, i thought the processing takes 4-6 weeks only, at least that's what they say anyway.

Ladygie24 - it takes 4-6 weeks..as long as you have all the documents/requirements you need and the money paid..then you will be sent to the visa submission..but make it 2 months..at least..me and my cousin applied with ISA last march, however we took sooooooo much time with the documents and payment..delayed everything..until after summer vacation..we passed our documents for visa processing last august 6 and received our approved visa..=)

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Guys just want to ask if you know about this...

Iv been doin a lot of readings lately here in this forum and i have found some helpful ideas about going on with this work-study placement scheme of ISA 4U Inc. just want to ask if you know about BSc International Nursing top up with Overseas Nursing Programme that they offer in University of Hertfordshire? basically its a 2 year course and you will be able work in a placement i think as a carer and you will need an IELTS score of 6 to enter the program.. after completing the degree you will be allowed to stay for a year i think for your Post-study work and work full time then during this time they will help you in applying with the Nursing Midwifery Council if you meet the requirements then you will have your acceptance letter from NMC and you will now be given the opportunity to enroll in the ONP.I've checked with the NMC website University Of Hertfordshire is listed with them as one of the schools that offer the Overseas Nursing Program.

Anybody here in the forums know about this route? i already have an IELTS score of 7 on all bands however i only have at least 6 months of nursing experience being a hemodialysis nurse is it advisable to take the degree of BSC International Nursing then after completion apply for an ONP..or should i just continue to have more experience being a hemodialysis nurse for a year and apply directly to the ONP? of course after meeting the requirements with the Nursing Midwifery Council. is it that hard to apply with the NMC? i really need your comments and suggestions regarding this guys!thanks in advance hope you can shed light on this matter thanks!

coyzquared - i've heard about that route but im not sure about it..there was someone who advised me to..go to UK as a student..then apply for ONP..because she said it was easier for us to be processed if we are already there..than in here in philippines..however, im planning to still finish the BSC international nursing..because it could be helpful for my career when i apply to other countries..then take the ONP after..=) if the school will suggest ONP before i finish the course because i also have above 7 for my ielts, then maybe i'll take the ONP..because ONP is only 20days for the lecture i think..then the rest is clinical setting thats why its 6months..just dont take the NVQ courses..take courses that are point-based system when they process the visa..because if you will take the NVQ route..they are just processing the january applicants when i last went to the visa submission..if you would rather still have experience here..then go for it..but i went to some seminars that countries like US, or UK or other big time countries, would rather give work visas to those who have international education ang work experience..so they say..=) so goodluck to us all!

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@ yanii

Thank you for sharing and giving some advice on how i should pursue with this matter. I see that you have applied with ISA.. are you taking up the BSc International Nursing with UH?hope to hear from you and your experiences with ISA. because by the end of the month i am going to make my decision as to continue with my plans in applying with ISA. Thanks so much!any info would be appreciated!

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