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I have had a problem with plantar fasciitis since last April. I went to the podiatrist at my job, got a pair of orthotics and one cortisone shot, and had short term improvement. It did not last long, because I was not very compliant with the exercises, the orthotics got kind of ruined, could not fit inside of each nursing shoe that I purchased and also, I could not tolerate the naproxen. Basically, my insurance does not cover orthotics, but my podiatrist friend (because he knew me), figured out a way to obtain them under my coverage by saying he ordered night splints. These orthotics were not of the highest quality, so, while they worked great, they are winding down, so to speak.

Anyhow, we have a 'no sneaker policy' at work, unless we have a note from a physician. While I was on vacation, I decided to see a podiatrist outside of the job under my plan, and this guy was phenomenal. He carefully illustrated what needs to be done to heal, and it is really working. He asked me to bring in my previous orthotics and wanted to see the shoes that I regulary wear to estimate what I needed. I am currently taking a series of shots (he told me he felt that I need cortisone shots once a week for one month), ordered an xray so that he can assess if I have other issues, and while he told me that my orthotics are basically good, the ones that he would cast would be more tailored towards the natural grooves of my feet. They are $250, and I feel this will be worth the money, so, I left him a deposit and they will be ready in two weeks. He wrapped my feet (which feel like heaven) and instructed that I restart wearing the orthotics I have until I get the ones that he casted me for (my feet feel like HEAVEN...and I want to marry him...told my husband it is over between us...LOL). He also showed me some shoes that can be purchased, but they are expensive. I do plan to get them eventually, but, I have to save for these things.

My current orthotics do not fit into my nursing shoes, so, I have lily white sneakers that REALLY look like shoes unless you look closely, got them for $21. With my feet wrapped, the orthotics and my sneakers, I am literally dancing around at work, I am so happy that the pain is gone! I KNOW that the orthotics that were casted by this man will be EVEN BETTER!! I am walking for 1/2 hour a day now and my quality of life has greatly improved. I want to eventually purchase some shoes from the brands he suggested, however, first, I know they will be expensive. Secondly, I intend to go to the store to see them, try them on, maybe get measured, or whatever, because if I have to pay that much money for them, they had BETTER feel like clouds (like they do, now). I know that with these sort of shoes, you have to wear them in before you wear them to work all day, because they have to adjust to your body. I want my money's worth...but to me, if I can wear sneakers, for cheaper, why should I not?

Each person that saw my sneakers asked me where did I get my SHOES from, and I just told them they were a gift (they really could not tell that they were sneakers that were purchased from a PayLess shoe store for $21). Fast forward to a meeting that was held with one of my sorry nursing administrators. She is known to have 'pets' (you know the ones that don't work and flaunt it) that go to the stores for her, buy her food and coffee, etc.... Her male pet of the month has on a pair of white sneakers. When I sit before her, she asked me if I had on sneakers, and I did not lie and said "Yes" and she goes into a speech how they are not part of policy to wear. Her 'pet' looks at me and smirks and I look dead at his feet.

I then told her that I am getting treated for my feet and as soon as I get orthotics, I will then have to see which shoes can properly accomodate them. She tells me to get a note (which I intend to do on Wednesday), but also says "There are shoes, you know that can be used for this purpose as well" in a snide manner. I say to her that I am aware, but they are horribly expensive, that I am already paying for orthotics in an installment plan and currently, I was wearing what comfortably fits my feet with the tape and orthotics that are almost damaged. Also, I told her that this way, I don't have to take naproxen, which literally made me have gas, caused heartburn and nausea. I told her that the nursing shoes that we normally purchase do not last long, do not accomodate special needs, and the shoes for special needs are expensive. She just rolls her eyes at me as if to say "That's YOUR problem".

I do plan to get this note, immediately. However, I think that this whole thing is insensitive. First off, she has her pet trailing behind her boldly wearing sneakers and smirking at us. Also, as an LPN, I do not make the salary that the average RN makes. I am working on dealing with the problem as effectively and economically as I can. Most RNs I know cannot readily afford these sorts of shoes...we all have bills, etc. If a cheap pair of sneakers and orthotics solve the problem, then WHAT IS THE ISSUE??? I am more effective at work, I am sure I am more productive. Also, even when I actually obtain these new orthotics that I know will fit better, what if I still have problems getting nursing shoes that will accomodate them? Most of us are walking around in literal tears because of our feet. How insensitive can these people be to make you spend money that you do not have immediately in order to slave yourself to the bone for these thankless demons?? :madface::banghead::no:

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

We have an insane, disconnected Director of Nursing who instituted this along with other insane policies. But, this, I say, was the stupidest.

Thank you, thank you, thank you! See folks, another person to say that it can get better!!!! My podiatrist told me the same thing...there should be no more than 4 shots, and he gives them once a week. I will be on my 3rd one on Wednesday. I am at the 90% after the second one...hurray!!!!:bowingpur I am also a long walker and I wish to lose the 20 lbs I gained since this PF mess started. I walked for over an hour on my way to get my feet xrayed and it was WONDERFUL! And, I used to take the bus 1.2 of the way to work, and then, walk the rest of the way, which is about 2.5 miles. Guess what...I will start again tomorrow. That is how great I feel!!

My podiatrist said I could walk as much and as far as I wanted to, just to let any pain be my guide (in other words, you cannot do any damage by walking - this had been my concern).

The pain was incredible after my accident happened (a serious fall caused the condition), and since I delayed seeing a podiatrist I got no significant relief for the longest time (when I finally started working PRN, I had to sit down as much as possible - probably made a great impression ;). I honestly thought I would never be able to walk normally again! It may get to the 100% cure, but even if it doesn't, I can live with the occasional very mild discomfort (I'd say 1/10).

BTW, the stretching exercises also helped a lot (a study I read about showed significant improvement by PF pts who did only the stretches). I was also advised to use ice after walks or when I had a flare-up (roll the foot over a frozen plastic bottle) but have to admit that I never did (I don't like the cold!) But it didn't hurt me not to do this.

Glad I could give you some hope. Good luck with your work situation, keep us posted!

DeLana

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.

Well, I got my note for sneakers!! Also got my xray, and I have heel spurs in addition to my PF. Treatment is the same, but, now, I comprehend the entire picture. When I told him what I needed and why, he said that he never heard of something so insane!! He immediately wrote the note and stated that since I have to wear the orthotics for life and they have to be accomodated, then, sneakers it will be. I don't need orthopedic shoes, really, but, he told me that I have to spend a bit more money on quality shoes (no more racks...LOL), rotate my sneaks for work and I am looking at Zappos to see what I like. There is a comfort shoe store in the area where I work, so, I got measured, and told the saleperson that I will look on line to see what I really like, make copies to bring in and they will order what I want. This is better, because I really have to try things on...just ordering anything on line besides sneakers would not be a good idea for me.

Hurray!! Screw those bozos!!!

Hind sight is wonderful but I could just seem myself making a show of staring at Boy toy's dirty sneakers. Not saying anything but making it very obvious what I was doing.

Also since this supervisor or manager was talking to you about your violation of the dress code I could not help but wonder why Boy Toy was permitted to be present.

This should have been addressed in private. Perhaps she needs to understand this.

This whole episode was unkind, unprofessional, and in poor taste in the treatment of you. Yes, I would address the issue of "boy toy" being present, with sneakers on, and being spoken to about private health issue. It does not matter if it was a mole on your hand that needed attention, it is private and not needed to be discussed in a public way. This supervisor would be toast as far as I would be concerned for future assistance in a crisis situation.

Hope you continue to improve and keep dancing at work. Blessing

Specializes in Med-Surg.

Between this post and the last one that you posted about your job, I think you've got about the worst job here. I can't believe they would treat you so unkindly, you seem like such a kind hearted person! Best of luck with your new shoes, I do hope they help! I can't imagine having to nurse with hurt feet

Specializes in Community Health, Med-Surg, Home Health.
Between this post and the last one that you posted about your job, I think you've got about the worst job here. I can't believe they would treat you so unkindly, you seem like such a kind hearted person! Best of luck with your new shoes, I do hope they help! I can't imagine having to nurse with hurt feet

Awww, thanks!! The reason I decided not to get into it in a big way is because in the long run, it would not really benefit me. I am on contract with these people since they paid for my education. I was on a full time leave with pay to transition from a tech to an LPN. Before I left there, it was not that bad. New managers, undeserving people being upgraded and many other things happened while I was missing in action. I suspect that it will change again within a few years, because many of these newcomers are actually up there in age. It was easier to get the stupid note, and the note was written for an indefinite period, because the podiatrist told me that if I am going to wear orthotics for the rest of my life, then, I should also wear sneakers for my duration of employment (thank God for him). I even found a pair of New Balance sneakers on line at Zappos.com that look exactly like nursing shoes. I don't want to show blatent disregard for policy...but I do plan to alternate sneakers, so this suits me just fine.

Also, most new grads are placed in the units, and believe it or not, the floors are worse!! I have weekends and holidays off, allowing me to grab other per diem assignments that are more interesting which I would have never had a chance to do as a tech, whose CNA certification expired some time ago. I work the 'late clinic', and these are hours that work well with me, and I do learn from the kind nurses I work with in spite of the chaos. And, as I mentioned before, that particular day, I was singled out, but (and goodness knows, I hate to defend this witch), she scolds the rest of us that wear sneakers, but most of them run and hide when she is coming. Because everyone thought that my $21 PayLess sneaks were actually shoes, I didn't see a reason to, and she didn't notice until I sat down. She was horrible and insensitive for allowing "Boy Toy" to walk around as he pleases, but basically, the rest of the nurses (with the exception of one wild card) really pull together to help each other.

I did announce to Boy Toy today in front of some angry sneaker wearing nurses that I hope that his inserts fit in his like mine do for me.

Specializes in home health, peds, case management.

glad to hear that you are getting some relief!!!

i find it completely absurd that nurses aren't allowed to wear sneakers....i've never heard anything like it!

in response to your query re: ada-it's the americans with disabilities act, and you can find more than you ever want to know at www.ada.gov

the gist of it is that it prohibits the discrimination against persons with disabilities-under certain circumstances. in addition to prohibiting discriminatory hiring practices, it requires qualifiying employers to make "reasonable accommodation" for disabled employees.

however, this issue does not really fall under the auspices of the ada. (however i still think that this "no sneakers for nurses rule" is a bunch of mularkey!!!!!) my understanding of the ada (and anyone may correct me if i am wrong) is that to be considered disabled under the ada, you must be substantially limited in performing a major life activity when using a mitigating measure.

while pf certainly interferes with walking (a major life activity) this condition is relieved with mitigating measures (sneakers and/or orthotics,) and therefore does not meet the ada definition of disability. the ada does not require accomodation for any and all medical conditions, however, this thinking is a common error made by employees and employers alike.

as others have mentioned, there are a variety of options available to relieve the pain. one gal i work with find that wearing high heels works better than the orthotics (however, we do work in an office setting...probably not the best option for you!!!)

what is most important is that your sore feet start feeling better!!!

Specializes in LTC, Med/Surg, Peds, ICU, Tele.
Between this post and the last one that you posted about your job, I think you've got about the worst job here.

Poor Pagan, Jessie may be right. Someone has to have the worst job here, it may be true that you are the winner of that dubious honor. :(

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