Published Mar 8, 2004
Sadie04
204 Posts
Hi all, I work on a busy 42 bed ortho/neuro/trauma unit that includes a 6-bed close observation step-down unit. Most patients in step-down are post-op craniotomies with ventrics, multi-traumas with head injuries, several with trachs, etc. Most patients are Q2 hour VS and neuro checks. It's usually staffed with 2 RNs, or RN and LPN, (occasionally RN and CNA). The Chief of Trauma has decided to add telemetry monitorsto this unit for trauma patients that need cardiac monitoring. He says it won't be diagnostic, we may only get these patients occasionally, and he wants to implement this in 8 weeks (there are 70 nurses that will need to be trained for tele). I don't like tele, which is a reason I chose to work on this unit.
Does it sound like they are doing this half-a$$ed (only 8 weeks to implement) and will this be safe for those on tele if we only get patients like this occasionally? They don't plan to increase staffing at all. Most nurses are pretty upset about the whole thing...
bellehill, RN
566 Posts
I am currently working a 42 bed neuro/neurosurgery unit which has already implemented telemetry. It seems like it goes in waves...everyone is on tele then no one is. Personally it doesn't bother me, this hospital has a very good telemetry certification class I went to and if I have a question there are always other nurses to ask. When we had a step-down unit on this floor (it has since been taken away) everyone of those patients was on telemetry, I am actually surprised you don't have monitors on everyone. We are all human and don't like change but give it a chance, I have caught many problems that I wouldn't have know about if the patient weren't tele.
Thanks Bellehill, how intensive was the cert class? Do you often have patients on your unit that are inappropriate and sent there because there are no other tele beds in the house? Do you read strips and include them in the nursing notes Qshift? I don't think it will be so bad once I'm used to it, I just hope I get thorough training as it's been a long time since I've worked with telemetry. Thanks for sharing your experience :)
Katnip, RN
2,904 Posts
I don't doubt everyone can learn this, but 8 weeks to certify 70 nurses seems like an awfully short time to me.
New CCU RN
796 Posts
Hi all, I work on a busy 42 bed ortho/neuro/trauma unit that includes a 6-bed close observation step-down unit. Most patients in step-down are post-op craniotomies with ventrics, multi-traumas with head injuries, several with trachs, etc. Most patients are Q2 hour VS and neuro checks. It's usually staffed with 2 RNs, or RN and LPN, (occasionally RN and CNA). The Chief of Trauma has decided to add telemetry monitorsto this unit for trauma patients that need cardiac monitoring. He says it won't be diagnostic, we may only get these patients occasionally, and he wants to implement this in 8 weeks (there are 70 nurses that will need to be trained for tele). I don't like tele, which is a reason I chose to work on this unit. Does it sound like they are doing this half-a$$ed (only 8 weeks to implement) and will this be safe for those on tele if we only get patients like this occasionally? They don't plan to increase staffing at all. Most nurses are pretty upset about the whole thing...
From how sick your patients sound... I would think the tele would sort of be a benefit. You will be able to know immediately if one of your patients gets into trouble. Honestly, shouldn't all step-down patients be monitored??
I guess this is also coming from a cardiac standpoint where...your walky talky r/o mi can be talking to you one minute and in v-fib the next. I also have never worked step-down but I am positive that all step-down patients in my facility are monitored by tele.
CseMgr1, ASN, RN
1,287 Posts
So, what else is new? Every time I turn around, something else has been added to our workload, too. I think it's Corporate's way of separating the strongest from the weakest, to see just how far they can push us, before someone else cracks and leaves...leaving us even more shorthanded. Even my partner at work who rarely complains, told me today that she told our supervisor that she is not happy..and is looking elsewhere.
Every one's got their limit. Right now I am so damned exhausted, I can't see straight. :zzzzz
tiliimnrn
34 Posts
Hi,
I used to work on a step-down unit, then they decided to add vent patients to the group...so I left tele and went to a medical floor....there they decided to add oncology...I hated that so I left there....I went to a post-partum, gyn floor and now all-of-a-sudden they've decided that no bed can be empty, so whatever comes in the door comes up to our floor (if the other floors are full) and they have been lately. They always have to screw around with whatever you do, not to make it better..........no, to make you have to do more I feel like we're the blind leading the blind half the time. Why can't they just quit messing with us:angryfire
Tweety, BSN, RN
35,418 Posts
Hard to imagine a step-down unit without telemetry. What about trauma patients with cardiac contusions, or patients with pre-existing cardiac issues.
I think it's a great skill to have. Sounds like to me your unit needs it. Good luck!
nekhismom
1,104 Posts
I think you will probably benefit from it in the long run, but are ALL of you expected to be trained/certified in 8 weeks? YIKES!!
As with any change, it can be difficult. Let's hope it doesn't increase your workload by much.
kimmicoobug
586 Posts
I think it would be a benefit, personally. We have tele on our med-surg floor for some of our pts, and it is just lovely to know what is exactly going on with our patients.
The class was 16 hours with a test after...awarded me 19 CE hours. It was a very helpful class. The opposite is happening with us, we get these patients who have no business being on telemetry and no histpry of cardiac problems. We run strips qshift and document alarm settings in the nursing notes...takes 2 minutes.
Owney
106 Posts
I hope that if you will be responsible for telemetry patients, you will have protocols in place not only to recognize dysrhyrthmias but what to do about them. I have been certified in ACLS for 20 years and I would recommend that your hospital train all RNs who are responsible for tele patients to be trained to at least that level.
I would also insist that the hospital equip your crash carts with AED's (most units are doing this, since airliners now have them) and train everyone on the unit to apply them.
Adminstrators need to understand that monitoring means more than just hooking up a patient to a machine. I once saw an OB physician order an ER nurse to take a patient OFF of a fetal monitor. When the doctor explained that the monitor may show fetal distress, and there was no one to interpret it, we were simply creating a legal record of negligence. We did train nurses in fetal monitoring and established a telemetry monitoring system to L&D.
Excuse an ignorant ER nurse's naivete, but to me the words "step-down" and "telemety" are almost interchangable.