Increase in Ehlers-Danlos (especially hypermobility type) patients?

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Hello,

First, Ehlers-Danlos is a real disease that afflicts people in various ways.

However, I have recently noticed a huge upswing in patients being admitted with the EDS hypermobility type.

These patients share very specific traits:

Chronically ill. Laundry list of diagnoses (or claimed diagnoses) including Lyme Disease, fibromyalgia, mast cell activation disorder, gastroparesis, POTS, dysautonomia, Mold toxicity/sensitivity (but reactions don't occur when they don't wish them - say with friends visiting). Always on medicinal marijuana.

They seem to be able to walk perfectly fine, but also have very sporty wheelchairs. They almost always have ports. They are able to eat when they want, and swallow pills when they want, but they have extreme desire for GJ PEG tubes, which they immediately insist all of their medications go through.

They are always young, 20's or early 30's and female. They appear healthy looking. And they demand, and get tons of PRN IV benadryl.

The first patient I had with these traits got her coveted PEG tube, but was ravenous during her NPO period after surgery. She was disappointed to be told she could not eat until 24 hours after the tube was placed. I went in to start her tube feeding (and tell her she could eat) and when I checked her gastric residual, I pulled out what looked like chocolate shake.

She said, "Oh...my tube is telling on me!" I said, "What did you do?"

She had drank an entire carton of Kate Farms (they ALWAYS demand Kate Farms) chocolate tube feed. Then she proceeded to order a regular lunch tray and eat the whole thing. With zero nausea or vomiting.

But then when tube feeding started at 10ml hour, she complained of "bloating." What the??

Is anyone else seeing an increase in this type of patient? Has EDS hypermobility type become a "desired" diagnosis?

Specializes in kids.

Fascinating thread...as a school nurse I have a slight increase in the EDS dx...not to the extremes noted here...

Sounds like the Netflix series afflicted.

I don't see these patients on the general medical floor. The ID clinic I work at does get a lot of referrals for patients with chronic Lyme and some with parisitosis. But those are a bit less debateable conditions.

Oh now I HAVE to watch this!

Specializes in Med Surg.

Following following up on this, the person known as Chronically Jaquie died yesterday.

While she certainly had chronic illness, I don't think that's what killed her. I think her caregivers helped her kill herself.

I don't know if I'm just noticing it more but I'm seeing so many cases were people just aren't being told "No," and it is leading to great harm.

On 10/29/2018 at 12:33 AM, blondy2061h said:

It started on YouTube. There's a prominent cystic fibrous vlogger who vlogs daily- Mary Frey. She's quite popular among the "Spoonie" community. Then came Chronically Jaquie. She started the daily vlogging thing too and seemed to copy Mary routinely. Jaquie started pretty tame but quickly collected more diagnoses and more "tools:" a port, wheelchair, GJ tube, then separate g and j tube (before trying an NJ!) with the covetted Kate Farms formula, then AFOs and a whole exoskeleton worth of braces, IV ketamine on the regular, medical marijuana, Dilaudid, unlimited IV push Benadryl, etc. To tell you how ridiculous she is she now says she's getting an AV fistula. For IV access. For fluids.

Now it's a trend. There are hundreds of people just like this on Instagram and Youtube all exactly like you describe. Feeding tube but clearly able to eat. Ports for no good reason. Only Kate Farms formula. Wheelchairs with power assist, pimped out and styled to their preference- but perfectly toned muscles. It's really bizarre.

8 hours ago, ArtClassRN said:

Following following up on this, the person known as Chronically Jaquie died yesterday.

While she certainly had chronic illness, I don't think that's what killed her. I think her caregivers helped her kill herself.

I don't know if I'm just noticing it more but I'm seeing so many cases were people just aren't being told "No," and it is leading to great harm.

Ummmm... who said she died? She is still posting videos. I don't have chronic illness, and I don't really know anyone that has chronic illness, so unless we actually know these people, I don't think it is right to judge them and say that they have munchhausens, or not. Is it possible? Sure, but it is also very possible that there are actually genetic issues that are causing her symptoms. ones that we don't even know about yet. She has a video that explains this.

3 minutes ago, Name9335 said:

Ummmm... who said she died? She is still posting videos. I don't have chronic illness, and I don't really know anyone that has chronic illness, so unless we actually know these people, I don't think it is right to judge them and say that they have munchhausens, or not. Is it possible? Sure, but it is also very possible that there are actually genetic issues that are causing her symptoms. ones that we don't even know about yet. She has a video that explains this.

ohhh just checked out the newest video.... i don't get it... there is no information....

I follow a /reddit thread that she was the topic. It has been posted by her family and her husband that she has died. From what they are saying, her last video was released after her death. According to her mother's post she died at 1:00 AM April 29 after a strangulated / herniated intestine.

Specializes in Med Surg.
6 hours ago, Name9335 said:

Ummmm... who said she died? She is still posting videos. I don't have chronic illness, and I don't really know anyone that has chronic illness, so unless we actually know these people, I don't think it is right to judge them and say that they have munchhausens, or not. Is it possible? Sure, but it is also very possible that there are actually genetic issues that are causing her symptoms. ones that we don't even know about yet. She has a video that explains this.

I think this "Who are we to judge?" approach is killing people.

It is our responsibility to judge. It is our responsibility to NOT help people kill themselves.

The caregivers who refused to make exotic diagnoses, or to place unneeded ports, PEG tubes, fistulas, or to provide unlimited IV Benadryl, or refused to escalate the use of narcotics for chronic pain - those are the ones who looked out for her.

The doctors she successfully shopped, the ones who "refused to judge," the ones who provided treatments that made her worse - they helped kill her.

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