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Oh my! I am a new grad and I sooo love my job. Seriously! I have had some very difficult times in the past 4 months and even cried a few times but for the most part I am immensely grateful to be a nurse.
I am driving home this morning after a long 14 hour shift and get stopped by highway patrol for expired tabs. As I am stammering out my excuse and shuffling through some papers he says to me, "maam, that's ok, I believe you. Plus I don't give tickets to nurses". :redlight:
How sweet! After he let's me go, as I am driving away I thought to myself, shucks I should have told him "I don't give shots to cops".
Hmmm... must be a kinship among guardians of society.
Well... we ARE pillars of society aren't we? :bowingpur
I am part serious here, and I do love being a nurse.:redbeathe Don't you all?
That is definitely NOT the reason I am easy on nurses on traffic stops. I see them as kindred spirits in the caring business. I will not be persuaded to be lenient because of fear that I might have to face the nurse later in the ER. With my luck I would never get the one I let off anyway.The times I have stopped nurses (and other medical personnel) and felt a verbal warning was the way to go, it was because: 1, relatively minor violation; 2, not at fault in an accident; 3, attitude was good (that's the biggie); 4, non-smoker; and 5, he/she was a nurse.
I generally go easy on firefighters, truckers, the elderly, and I have never written a fellow law enforcement officer.
No funny female games allowed. I once stopped a nurse after she blew by me on the interstate, as she passed me she mouthed "I'm late" as she went by. I'm not going to be insulted by someone passing a marked unit over the limit :angryfire. It's a personal challenge. On go the blue lights. Now this was a long time ago when some nurses still wore dresses. When I got to the window of her Trans Am, no kidding, the dress was hiked up to the crotch, I could see her panties
. Now she had nice legs allright, the kind that go from the ground clear up to her, well, you know what I mean
. Nine yards of thighs. Got the usual license, registration, and proof of insurance. She even leaned forward so I could see down the front of her top :w00t:. I wondered how many cops she tried this with. Wasn't going to work on me, I determined. I was involved with a trophy chick at the time and it took a lot to impress me, and this gal wasn't cutting it. I thought 'thanks for the show, now it's my turn." I couldn't resist saying "sign here, and press hard will ya, there are 5 copies." She shoved the skirt back down before she even signed the ticket. I guess the show was over, darn :anbd:.
Hey Balder, just for the record, I've let the guys off too. You might not get a ticket from me unless you force me to look at your thighs or blow smoke in my face.
flyer
Wow, that is nasty.
I don't even know how it came up but I was stopped for speeding the last time I got ticketed - 4 years ago. I was like... I'm a nurse. He was like, well, you should know better than to drive like that and threw that clipboard at me... he was ticked and acting like a total jerk. It made him madder I think (I wasn't brining it up, I remember that - I think he asked me why I was in uniform and had my stethoscope, where I was headed to "so fast" - I was actually headed home). I was 10 miles over the speedlimit and didn't even realize it, and that is when the cops in our state pull you over (they say no tolerance, but my cousin, the cop who I grew up with like my brother says that on the interstate, that you have to be over 9 miles over for it to be worth their while to do it). I probably could have fought it.
That is definitely NOT the reason I am easy on nurses on traffic stops. I see them as kindred spirits in the caring business. I will not be persuaded to be lenient because of fear that I might have to face the nurse later in the ER. With my luck I would never get the one I let off anyway.The times I have stopped nurses (and other medical personnel) and felt a verbal warning was the way to go, it was because: 1, relatively minor violation; 2, not at fault in an accident; 3, attitude was good (that's the biggie); 4, non-smoker; and 5, he/she was a nurse.
I generally go easy on firefighters, truckers, the elderly, and I have never written a fellow law enforcement officer.
No funny female games allowed. I once stopped a nurse after she blew by me on the interstate, as she passed me she mouthed "I'm late" as she went by. I'm not going to be insulted by someone passing a marked unit over the limit :angryfire. It's a personal challenge. On go the blue lights. Now this was a long time ago when some nurses still wore dresses. When I got to the window of her Trans Am, no kidding, the dress was hiked up to the crotch, I could see her panties
. Now she had nice legs allright, the kind that go from the ground clear up to her, well, you know what I mean
. Nine yards of thighs. Got the usual license, registration, and proof of insurance. She even leaned forward so I could see down the front of her top :w00t:. I wondered how many cops she tried this with. Wasn't going to work on me, I determined. I was involved with a trophy chick at the time and it took a lot to impress me, and this gal wasn't cutting it. I thought 'thanks for the show, now it's my turn." I couldn't resist saying "sign here, and press hard will ya, there are 5 copies." She shoved the skirt back down before she even signed the ticket. I guess the show was over, darn :anbd:.
Hey Balder, just for the record, I've let the guys off too. You might not get a ticket from me unless you force me to look at your thighs or blow smoke in my face.
flyer
She sounds like the girl who is in the promo for the show Speeders she gennuinely surprised that didn't work.
That being said be careful with some of the elderly. A male deputy friend of mine got knocked senseless by an 87 year old woman with a cane. True story. and no she didn't have Alzheimers she admitted she meant to hit him in the head just not so hard.
I just dont think an officer should have that kind of a blanket policy, as another poster said I'm not going to chase a cop down for a tciket after I got a warning. I understand professional discretion, but having a meditated policy that is outside the law (and oath) is very unethical. That kind of unethics is something that I dont want to see in an officer.
IMHO
quote=Balder;2696009]I just dont think an officer should have that kind of a blanket policy, as another poster said I'm not going to chase a cop down for a tciket after I got a warning. I understand professional discretion, but having a meditated policy that is outside the law (and oath) is very unethical. That kind of unethics is something that I dont want to see in an officer.IMHO
The matter of discretion in enforcement action has long been a tradition in law enforcement. In an ideal world, it wouldn't happen, but we don't live in an ideal world. Humans are what they are. It happens in nursing too.
As a patient, I have personally experienced that double edged sword. I have been treated by nurses who hate who I am, and by nurses who love who I am. There is a huge difference in care. Is it right? No. Is it reality? Yes. So should I tolerate it because that's just the way it is? No. But you can bet I didn't complain when I received extra special care.
In law enforcement action, discretion means more than just deciding who gets the ticket and who doesn't. Which kid do you arrest for possession of marijuana when another officer might decide to scatter the marijuana because it's a good kid who made a bad choice? Which male officer will search a female arrestee when another male officer will always call a female officer to do the search? Which officer will crawl on his hands and knees into a burning house to rescue children when another officer might just say "that's the firefighters job, wait 'till they get here."
Rarely will an officer get questioned as to why he took the action he did. The rest of us look on and say "I would have done differently." We usually think it rather than say it. We are the products of our experiences. I worked the jail for many years and saw too many female prisoners get in with contraband. Then the arresting officer got wrote up. That's why, after I got on the road, I always searched my female arrestees. And I didn't use the back of my hand, you can't feel anything that way. I have found lots of contraband and weapons that the ladies hid with the "girls" and in the crotch. I got some complaints, none sustained. Never got wrote up for letting stuff get past the back door of the jail.
Same with DUI's. When I was in field training, I rode with an excellent officer with a serious defect. He loved women, they could do no wrong. One night we were following a very impaired driver, running off the road, weaving and stopping for no reason. I could even smell the odor of an alcoholic beverage just riding behind the car. Upon making the stop, we encountered a very attractive and very intoxicated female driver. My training officer was in love instantly. She totally bombed the field sobriety tests, all of them. The training officer decided she wasn't impaired enough and wanted to just let her go. I argued to at least drive her home, a big no no, but better than the alternative. I was just a rookie, so off she went. Within 10 minutes, she went head-on with a Greyhound bus. She was killed, a bunch of people on the bus were injured. We got the call, just our luck. 2 hours after doing her field sobriety tests I was helping the medical examiner zip her into the body bag. That stayed with me, I never let another imparied driver go. I felt as though my training officer had killed her himself. I can only hope it changed the way he did things, but we never discussed it.
Sometimes that discretion is not a good thing. If only we had a crystal ball to see what the outcome would be.
Wow, that is nasty.I don't even know how it came up but I was stopped for speeding the last time I got ticketed - 4 years ago. I was like... I'm a nurse. He was like, well, you should know better than to drive like that and threw that clipboard at me... he was ticked and acting like a total jerk. It made him madder I think (I wasn't brining it up, I remember that - I think he asked me why I was in uniform and had my stethoscope, where I was headed to "so fast" - I was actually headed home). I was 10 miles over the speedlimit and didn't even realize it, and that is when the cops in our state pull you over (they say no tolerance, but my cousin, the cop who I grew up with like my brother says that on the interstate, that you have to be over 9 miles over for it to be worth their while to do it). I probably could have fought it.
Threw the clipboard at you?? That's called battery where I'm from.
My agency's policy is to not write tickets for less than 4 over. I usually don't make stops for anywhere from 9 to 13 over, depending on location.
Tip: If you take a speeding ticket to court don't admit to anything over the limit. The judge will throw the book at you. And it won't be battery...
justme1972
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I think this answers alot of questions on people that think that others don't have respect for nurses.
As I have posted before...I have actually never heard in my life anyone bashing the nursing profession. Maybe an individual nurse, but never the profession itself.