Im sorry, but light stomachs please do not read!

[onconurseRT]

Ladies and Gents!

I do apologize in advance. My son came home today and said that he had taken a drink out of his sports bottle and tasted something odd. Evidently a boy at his high school urinated in my son sports bottle as a sick joke and he did drink a swallow. We are all nurses and I know that I can ask this question to get some real professional feedback on what I should do here. I have looked up on the internet what type of communicable diseases could be spread in urine and the information is a bit vague. I know that the fluid is urine, but I am interested to know what diseases are possible in urine. I know that as a nurse I should be on top of this but for some reason my "parent brain" has taken over the "nurse brain" and I cannot get past the anger I have right now for a teenage student that is THAT mean and to do something that cruel. We all know that HIV/Hepatitis is transmitted via blood but I have never really had to really contemplate what diseases are relevant if a person drinks another person's urine. Thanks for everyones professional advice and if you also have any advice how I should approach the school administration in the AM regarding this issue, I would also appreciate that. Right now I am furious, but I want to take a complete professional approach in the AM on this and I will not stand for this other child just getting a slap on the wrist. I believe that what he has done is completely unacceptable. Thanks in advance for your advice.:stone

[teeituptom, BSN, RN]

Why dont we just take that boy out along with the school officals and just

hang them also

BTW, I was just being sarcastic.When I look at all the things I witnessed in high school almost 4 decades ago. Things that makes this seem positively very mild. It just points out how Alarmist, narrowminded, close minded, overly sensitive our society has become.

[miss_fit]

If the kid did this at a time when it was considered a mild thing, it wouldn't be such a signal.

Just like not wearing a seatbelt, drinking and driving, animal abuse, and even "date rape": When your culture changes and you're acting against the standards, you're showing anti-social tendencies.

No one needs sued or whatever - but if his parents or the school brush it off as harmless, they need flagged and educated.

(PS. I too get tired of the over-done political correctness and zero-tolerance stuff we have today. But I don't long for the days when things like peeing in someone's drink was considered very mild.)

[onconurseRT]

Just as an update on this issue...

I have taken time to think about this action of this other child. My child was taken to the MD and the MD feels as though a HIV, HEP panel was the start for the testing of my son. The MD felt that the chances are small for transmission but were not out of the question. I have been very calm, collected and matter of fact when I have spoken with the school and the sherriff department. I think the school was expecting a "guns blazing mom" but I have a small bark with an extreme bite.

In general, my tolerance for kids that have absolutely no respect for others, their property or adults is gone. I can fully understand the idea that "kids are kids" and I can understand some disrespectful behavior, pranks, etc., but I believe that some youth are simply out of control- like in this incidence.

Because I do not want to reveal anything specific, pressing for mandatory counseling, community service of many hours and at least a letter of apology at a minimum is likely to top the list of "my bite". To add, as a parent in general, I would automatically insist on the above if it were my child that was in the wrong. As a parent, I would be highly concerned about my child if he/she did not have the mental capacity at the high school age to know not to urinate in bottle and allow another child to drink it. I have always said that in the years of raising 3 boys in sports programs, etc. I will be the first to bench my child for poor grades, poor behavior and blatant disrespect. It is about high time some parents stop being their childs best friend and bank roll and step up to the plate and hold their children accountable for their own actions. This starts at a very early age but some kids will unfortunately learn this lesson later in their lives.

[pugmum]

Just as an update on this issue...

I have taken time to think about this action of this other child. My child was taken to the MD and the MD feels as though a HIV, HEP panel was the start for the testing of my son. The MD felt that the chances are small for transmission but were not out of the question. I have been very calm, collected and matter of fact when I have spoken with the school and the sherriff department. I think the school was expecting a "guns blazing mom" but I have a small bark with an extreme bite.

In general, my tolerance for kids that have absolutely no respect for others, their property or adults is gone. I can fully understand the idea that "kids are kids" and I can understand some disrespectful behavior, pranks, etc., but I believe that some youth are simply out of control- like in this incidence.

Because I do not want to reveal anything specific, pressing for mandatory counseling, community service of many hours and at least a letter of apology at a minimum is likely to top the list of "my bite". To add, as a parent in general, I would automatically insist on the above if it were my child that was in the wrong. As a parent, I would be highly concerned about my child if he/she did not have the mental capacity at the high school age to know not to urinate in bottle and allow another child to drink it. I have always said that in the years of raising 3 boys in sports programs, etc. I will be the first to bench my child for poor grades, poor behavior and blatant disrespect. It is about high time some parents stop being their childs best friend and bank roll and step up to the plate and hold their children accountable for their own actions. This starts at a very early age but some kids will unfortunately learn this lesson later in their lives.

[noc_owl]

Thanks for the update. I'm glad you are pursuing the matter and your plan is a very sound one. Best of luck.

[snowfreeze, BSN, RN]

Stupid child trick, file a police report, call the offenders parents, alert the school of what is happening and has happened.

Probably nothing commuicated with urine but to be safe have the tests done too.

And I hope both kids learn a lesson from this both of defending self and not invading others. World peace may begin at this level if we allow it.

[snowfreeze, BSN, RN]

Onconurse, I would like every neighbor of mine to be like you.

[Tanya-UKR]

Well ,frankly speaking that is really disgusting story and I really feel sorry for you and your son.I would encourage you to make the other guy to do tuberculosis screening as well.I do agree that gastric acid is agressive enough to destroy the magority of patogenic microorganisms but still it would be better to check.

[mandana]

To add, as a parent in general, I would automatically insist on the above if it were my child that was in the wrong. As a parent, I would be highly concerned about my child if he/she did not have the mental capacity at the high school age to know not to urinate in bottle and allow another child to drink it. I have always said that in the years of raising 3 boys in sports programs, etc. I will be the first to bench my child for poor grades, poor behavior and blatant disrespect. It is about high time some parents stop being their childs best friend and bank roll and step up to the plate and hold their children accountable for their own actions. This starts at a very early age but some kids will unfortunately learn this lesson later in their lives.

I've been looking for an update from you and just wanted you to know that I agree with you 110%. I am a parent and I cannot even tell you how disappointed and livid I would be with my child who behaved this way. The consequences the school imposed on my child would seem like a walk in the park. If the parents of the other child are not incredibly concerned about this behavior from a high school child, you have a pretty good idea of why this child behaved in this manner in the first place.

I'm sorry that your family is experiencing this and I hope that you find a resolution soon that works for you.

[MMARN, BSN, RN]

Just as an update on this issue...

I have taken time to think about this action of this other child. My child was taken to the MD and the MD feels as though a HIV, HEP panel was the start for the testing of my son. The MD felt that the chances are small for transmission but were not out of the question. I have been very calm, collected and matter of fact when I have spoken with the school and the sherriff department. I think the school was expecting a "guns blazing mom" but I have a small bark with an extreme bite.

In general, my tolerance for kids that have absolutely no respect for others, their property or adults is gone. I can fully understand the idea that "kids are kids" and I can understand some disrespectful behavior, pranks, etc., but I believe that some youth are simply out of control- like in this incidence.

Because I do not want to reveal anything specific, pressing for mandatory counseling, community service of many hours and at least a letter of apology at a minimum is likely to top the list of "my bite". To add, as a parent in general, I would automatically insist on the above if it were my child that was in the wrong. As a parent, I would be highly concerned about my child if he/she did not have the mental capacity at the high school age to know not to urinate in bottle and allow another child to drink it. I have always said that in the years of raising 3 boys in sports programs, etc. I will be the first to bench my child for poor grades, poor behavior and blatant disrespect. It is about high time some parents stop being their childs best friend and bank roll and step up to the plate and hold their children accountable for their own actions. This starts at a very early age but some kids will unfortunately learn this lesson later in their lives.

:yelclap: :yelclap: :yeah:

[gr8rnpjt, RN]

BTW, I was just being sarcastic.When I look at all the things I witnessed in high school almost 4 decades ago. Things that makes this seem positively very mild. It just points out how Alarmist, narrowminded, close minded, overly sensitive our society has become.

Um, sorry but I fail to see how this situation and the actions taken can be considered Alarmist, narrowminded, closed minded, or overly sensetive. :angryfire

Just because 4 decades ago the things you witnessed made this situation seem mild, does not make any of it right. If you as a parent could brush this away like it was nothing, then I hope for your childrens sake it never happens to them. As for me, if it ever happened to my children I would definitely take an alarmist, narrowminded, closed minded and overly sensetive position and I would make that child accountable for his actions. :angryfire :angryfire

[felixfelix]

yea, you could go in with legal guns blazing, but maybe a graduated approach to this "disease" could be considered...yes, kids today are potentially wilder (we had to think mean stuff up, they can just turn on the tube or www for ideas), yet more restrained by society, too (did you ever see a bicycle helmet when you were a kid? In my hood, little kids can't play outside w/o risk) They're pummeled with so much sex/violence it's crazy, and when you're too young for sex (12?11?10!?) then you mimic the violence and "pranks."

Yes, junior prankster needs a severe reality check, and making a big stink out of this shows your kid how to be assertive and shows the other kid that this behavior isn't acceptable (he may not be getting this or any other message at home). Maybe that will be enough...sure, if they go into denial and start accusing you of whatever, you'll have to up the ante, but the least amount of energy expenditure to get the job done is usually the best in the karmic sense or whatever term you want to use...I wish you the best, and I wish your son the best, cuz he's going to have to put up with a lot of S@#t at school if the other kids ( you know how they are) find out...I would make sure you talk with him about the situation before you send him back to school. Don't send him back cold or shame will have a chance to bite him.