I just found out that NYC Tech no longer provides professor information when registering for classes - so you have no idea which professor you're getting!!
Excuse me??? - Why can't I know which professor I'll be getting - I'm paying out of my pocket for these classes and want to make sure I'm not getting some "hard-ball" teacher that doesn't really care about their students!!
I suppose that NYC Tech has taken this measure because of the info. on ratemyprofessors.com
However, they seem to be special since other cuny schools aren't participating in this sort of non-sense!
I am registered for A&P1 for the summer, and A&PII for the Fall and would also like to possibly get a heads up on the syllabus (if I would've known who the professor was/is). - This really SUCKS!! - As I know A&P professors can sometimes make a break an A&P course.
This ****** me off so much - this school is the most convenient for me (I'll be going after work) - I get there in literally 10 minutes.
I suppose I could try the biology department - and maybe see if they give me the info. I'm looking for.
I think we should all take a step back and realize that RMP is only a "tool" for getting information about a specific professor. As another person states, some students use it as an opportunity to vent frustrations and others realize the power that it can have on others. I don't think it should be used as the only avenue of deciding which professor is beneficial, but I've found it useful over the past six years or so. It is all subjective and what one person may find to be a benefit will be another person's weakness. So perhaps we should all judge a professor based off of what we find to be of merit and leave it as that for a fool proof tool.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Nursing school, NCLEX and the first year on the job will let you know who "gets it", not the pre-reqs. I do agree that the pre-reqs are foundation material, but I think a lot of this is being overblown.
Have you never met a nurse that you seriously sat there thinking, HOW ON EARTH were you capable of becoming a nurse? A nurse that just didn't seem to get it? I have, and I have seen a few here as well. It's not limited to nurses, their are many people in many professions that you sit and wonder how they managed to get there. So although NS, NCLEX and first year may be good at weeding a lot of the ones out, it isn't fool proof. IMO it speaks a lot on someones character when they are taking on a profession that will put someones lives in their hands and their priority is not UNDERSTANDING what they are being taught, but to do whatever it takes to get a high grade, even if that means purposefully going to teachers that are handing out grades and not making students earn them. I just can not comprehend that mentality. I don't want an A just to have an A, I am paying a lot of money for my education, I want an understanding of what is being taught. My set of priorities is obviously different then a lot of others. Then again, you see posts here where people don't get what the big deal is to get 100% on learning Dosage and Calculations and thinks it's unfair to require perfection when it comes to medicating someone. I won't be the least bit surprised when I see posts popping up in a year bashing nursing instructors because now these same students were struggling and blame the instructors. It is what it is. I still stand by wanting the nurse that gets it. I don't want her medicating me because the orders say so, I want her to understand WHY.
I've never met a nurse and didn't think that. Most nurses I've encountered, I can't imagine them passing a basic English course, let alone anatomy physiology chemistry and microbiology. I've also met many doctors who didn't seem to know anatomy.
Have you never met a nurse that you seriously sat their thinking, HOW ON EARTH were you capable of becoming a nurse? A nurse that just didn't seem to get it?
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
I've never met a nurse and didn't think that. Most nurses I've encountered, I can't imagine them passing a basic English course, let alone anatomy physiology chemistry and microbiology. I've also met many doctors who didn't seem to know anatomy.
I have met a few but not many thankfully, I agree though, it's not limited to just nurses by any means.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but once a nurse passes the NCLEX and gets a license, they never have to take the test again. Seems like nurses should have to retake the exam every 5-10 years and prove they didn't forget everything they learned.
I have met a few but not many thankfully, I agree though, it's not limited to just nurses by any means.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
I have no idea. One of the nurses would have to answer. But seriously I have been dumbfounded by some of the people I met, no idea how they got Licensed, It does happen though.
Have you never met a nurse that you seriously sat there thinking, HOW ON EARTH were you capable of becoming a nurse? A nurse that just didn't seem to get it? I have, and I have seen a few here as well. It's not limited to nurses, their are many people in many professions that you sit and wonder how they managed to get there. So although NS, NCLEX and first year may be good at weeding a lot of the ones out, it isn't fool proof. IMO it speaks a lot on someones character when they are taking on a profession that will put someones lives in their hands and their priority is not UNDERSTANDING what they are being taught, but to do whatever it takes to get a high grade, even if that means purposefully going to teachers that are handing out grades and not making students earn them. I just can not comprehend that mentality.
Sorry, but you are really reachind here in order to prove your point. First, there is NO fool proof way to weeding out those who wont be good nurses, but i don't think anyone can argue that pre-req grades are a better indicator than ns, nclex and job performance combined. Second, not a single person here has said they don't care if they don't learn the material. So i'm not sure were this "mentality" speech is coming from. Third, just b/c a teacher is easy does not mean a student can't learn the material? How many here have claimed to learn a subject despite a difficult teacher? Why can't this be true of easy teachers?
Honestly i think we agree more than it appears. I too believe that if you don't have a good understanding of the pre-reqs, you will struggle with more advanced classes. What i don't assume is that just b/c someone uses rmp to find the professor with the best ratings that he or she is trying to cheat the system and will become a lousy, incomptent nurse.
Specializes in Emergency Dept. Trauma. Pediatrics.
Sorry, but you are really reachind here in order to prove your point. First, there is NO fool proof way to weeding out those who wont be good nurses, but i don't think anyone can argue that pre-req grades are a better indicator than ns, nclex and job performance combined. Second, not a single person here has said they don't care if they don't learn the material. So i'm not sure were this "mentality" speech is coming from. Third, just b/c a teacher is easy does not mean a student can't learn the material? How many here have claimed to learn a subject despite a difficult teacher? Why can't this be true of easy teachers?
Honestly i think we agree more than it appears. I too believe that if you don't have a good understanding of the pre-reqs, you will struggle with more advanced classes. What i don't assume is that just b/c someone uses rmp to find the professor with the best ratings that he or she is trying to cheat the system and will become a lousy, incomptent nurse.
I never said any of these things you just accused me of. 1) I am not reaching at all. I was stating a fact that NS, NCLEX and first year, do not always weed out the bad or ones that don't get it. No reach, it's right there. 2) I never said that Pre Reqs were a better indicator, in fact I didn't bring up anything being an indicator. I simply said that not understanding the material and moving on will come back to bite you. 3) It was stated that getting the good grade even if you DON'T understand the material was of a higher importance. This is the mentality I said I don't understand. You don't have to get the "mentality speech" It wasn't a speech and wasn't something you had to get, it was my feelings on the matter. 4) if a teacher is easy, where is the challenge that gets people thinking and researching and stuff to learn. If a teacher is handing out the grade for whatever reason where is the learning? Again, my opinion, you don't have to agree.
LastlyI never assumed the bolded part either and never implied that, what I did say and imply, is that someone that is willing to take the easy grade without even having an understanding of the material will be back here in the future complaining about their NS instructors and someone with those kind of ethics is not someone I want as my nurse. I want the nurse that UNDERSTANDS what she is doing, not just following orders and doing the min. to get by. Again, my opinion, you don't have to like it or agree but it doesn't make it wrong!
I understand how hard it is to get into nursing school, I have waited 3 years before getting my acceptance and when I start in August it would have been 3.5 years that I have waited, so I "get it".
I agree,The prof cant tech you everything in class you have to be a self learner also and be motivated.That is how you hear of students in a sub par high school go on to do great things because they know what they want and apply themselves.
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I think we should all take a step back and realize that RMP is only a "tool" for getting information about a specific professor. As another person states, some students use it as an opportunity to vent frustrations and others realize the power that it can have on others. I don't think it should be used as the only avenue of deciding which professor is beneficial, but I've found it useful over the past six years or so. It is all subjective and what one person may find to be a benefit will be another person's weakness. So perhaps we should all judge a professor based off of what we find to be of merit and leave it as that for a fool proof tool.