ICU Nurse Fired For Refusing 3rd Patient

Nurse Julie Griffin was fired for standing up for what she thought was the right thing. Nurses General Nursing News

At Westside Regional Medical Center in Plantation, Florida, ICU nurse Julie Griffin worked in the 12 bed cardiovascular ICU (CVICU.) Until she was fired for refusing to take a third patient.

Westside Regional Medical Center is part of HCA Healthcare. HCA Healthcare is the largest for-profit hospital chain in the U.S., owning over 150 hospitals, and earning over 47 billion in 2018.

Unmonitored Patients

One of Julie's concerns for patient safety was that the in-room monitors provided for a split screen display. This allows for an ICU nurse to be in one of her patient's rooms, set the monitor for a 2-view display, and be able to monitor her second patient. The problem? It does not allow for a 3-way display. If the ICU nurse has 3 patients, one of those patients will not be monitored.

In an interview with Hospital Watchdog, Julie Griffin explained that there is a standing order for all ICU patients to receive continuous monitoring, and nurses must electronically attest to the fact that the standard of care was met. HCA CVICU does not staff a qualified monitor tech at the nurses station where the central bank of patient monitors display. If all the nurses are away from the station providing patient care and an unmonitored patient goes into a lethal rhythm, there is no one to see it. An alarm would sound, but there are constant alarms in CVICU that compete for a nurse's attention. Alarms cannot be relied upon as a substitute for a nurse.

Hospital Watchdog reports that 2 such unmonitored patients have died. Allegedly, one of the patients was discovered dead and may have been dead for up to 30 minutes. A family member went out to the nurses station to report that something was wrong.

In the other case, allegedly the nurse was assigned 3 patients, was able to monitor only 2 of them, and the 3rd patient died of pulmonary problems, possible a pulmonary embolism (PE).

Hospital Watchdog qualifies the above cases saying they are not substantiated with medical records or other documentation, they are reported by nurse Julie Griffin in an interview.

Whistle-Blower

Julie says all of her colleagues shared her concern about patient safety and lack of monitoring, but they were afraid to speak up. They needed to keep their jobs in order to support their families. Julie, previously in the Navy, believed in following the chain-of-command. She reported unsafe patient conditions to her charge nurses and manager. She believed that if corporate only knew about the practice, they would want to do the right thing and rectify the situation.

Instead of rectifying the situation, nurses were frequently required to take 3, and sometimes 4, patients in the CVICU. Julie claims that untrained nurses were assigned ICU patients.

Julie trusted there would not be retaliation if she complained. There was. Julie claims her Director intimidated her and at one point frightened Julie by getting physically close. Julie's schedule was changed to working every weekend. She felt harassed.

Even the HR department at Westside acknowledged that the Director's actions were inappropriate. Even so, Julie was removed from duty within hours the day she refused to take a third patient.

On the day she was terminated, Julie had 2 patients. One patient had orders for transfer out to the floor. One of the patients was a post-op open heart surgery, and was on a diuretic. Julie knew that a patient on a diuretic often has to urinate urgently, and was concerned that she needed to respond right away to make sure he didn't fall.

Julie refused to accept the assignment of a 3rd patient. At 1700, The CVICU Director came to the unit and told Julie she had to take the 3rd patient. She again refused, was placed on investigative leave, and terminated 2 weeks later, in 2017. Julie had worked in HCA ICU since July 2016.

Julie later filed 2 Florida Whistle-Blower complaints in 2018, and has filed a suit against HCA for unlawful termination.

Julie's Director says that Julie was a disruptive staff member.

Julie says that the standard of care required by HCA called for continuous monitoring of her patients, and she was unwilling to violate that standard.

Right or Wrong?

Should Julie have gone with the status quo and quietly accepted a 3rd patient, knowing that at least 1 of her patients was lower acuity? Or did she do the right thing?

Is her reputation so damaged that she will have difficulty securing employment? Was she acting on principle or imminent patient endangerment?

Does she have any chance of prevailing against HCA?

Many of us have been in similar situations. What would you have done?

Nurse Beth,

Author, "Your Last Nursing Class: How to Land Your First Nursing Job"...and your next!

Specializes in 8 years Telemetry/Med Surg, 5 years Stepdown/PCU.
6 hours ago, Johnnyb2000 said:

You're 100% right. The company would be the first to blame her.

And the board of nursing would say “ she shouldn’t have accepted the unsafe assignment”.

Specializes in ACNP-BC, Adult Critical Care, Cardiology.
2 hours ago, Leader25 said:

Who enforces the LAW,who reports when it is not being followed ,??

Who decides which one is "critical"? If Cali divorce laws are any example you can keep your "ratios".

Even in California, there are hospitals that will skirt the rules and break the law. It's up to nurses as individuals to report. Unions are very active in California, that's one avenue for reporting violations if the nurse is represented by a union. Ultimately, reports go to the CA Dept of Public Health who issues a "slap on the wrist" letter and the hospital submits a corrective action response.

A bill was introduced to impose fines on violations but that went nowhere. There are certainly bad players and the HCA facilities in my area of California are notorious for unfair practices (such as hiring new grad RN trainees for way below market pay). Bad hospitals exist everywhere and we're no exception here.

The decision for a patient being critically ill is determined by a provider. ED patients who are waiting for admission to a Critical Care Unit are critically-ill. Universally, providers write the patient status on the admission order...i.e., admit to Critical Care. Patients on the floor who take a turn for the worse and are awaiting transfer to a Critical Care Unit are critically-ill. Patients being stabilized in "Room 1" in the ED for a medical emergency are deemed critically ill.

Luckily, I've worked at 3 hospital systems in California and have not witnessed or heard RN's complain of ratio violations. I've seen missed breaks and the nurses always made sure to report those and get paid for them. Some hospital union contracts (i.e., Kaiser, UC hospitals) go above and beyond the mandatory staffing ratio law in terms of protecting nurses. I've worked in places where the threat of a nursing strike immediately got management to ratify a contract.

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Specializes in ICU/ER/Med-Surg/Case Management/Manageme.

Should Julie have gone with the status quo...

Absolutely not. Good for her for standing firm. Nurses NOT standing firm and allowing supervisors/admins to dictate our practice is what has led us to where we are today - exhausted, frazzled, over-worked, and sometimes dangerous practices and practitioners. If indeed it was a rare and situation where a nurse might be in Julie's situation, OK. Problem is, once you let it go a single time it becomes the norm.

Frankly I wish every nurse in that ICU and hospital and the guts to walk out. The days of nurse abuse need to stop. For crying out loud.......NURSES SAVE LIVES! We aren't there for decoration. There needs to be a #me too thing for nurses.

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4 hours ago, DallasRN said:

Should Julie have gone with the status quo...

Absolutely not. Good for her for standing firm. Nurses NOT standing firm and allowing supervisors/admins to dictate our practice is what has led us to where we are today - exhausted, frazzled, over-worked, and sometimes dangerous practices and practitioners. If indeed it was a rare and situation where a nurse might be in Julie's situation, OK. Problem is, once you let it go a single time it becomes the norm.

Frankly I wish every nurse in that ICU and hospital and the guts to walk out. The days of nurse abuse need to stop. For crying out loud.......NURSES SAVE LIVES! We aren't there for decoration. There needs to be a #me too thing for nurses.

Please start it.

23 hours ago, MSO4foru said:

I don't know what ADO means. In my little place of employment as part of large hospital system,recently bought by large for profit system we are pretty well continually short staffed. There are many posts on this forum re short staffing- this is going to be the new norm unless nurses say enough. Unfortunately that will wreck havoc among pts and their caregivers. Many moons ago I was told to " never say that we are short staffed"- I am finding my qualms about stating such greatly reduced as now am often having 2-3 pts above 'ratio' of 6:1. I think if the general public knew what was happening in terms of nursing ratios, wheels of change would speed above slow crrrreeeaaakk

They won't know if you don't tell them, MSO4foru.

Specializes in OB-Gyn/Primary Care/Ambulatory Leadership.

Or you could, Kooky. You seem very passionate on the subject.

18 hours ago, eacue said:

I work in an ER and have only worked Med surge for a year at the beginning of my career, 0 ICU experience, I would hope that the people judging this poor RN have actually worked in an ICU. I personally worked for Plantation General hospital, which is the sister facility for Westside, also owned by HCA, and in the ER it was this bad before I left. J-loops ran out so we were told to just hub with picc line caps that were not in the picc packet. OK, then we ran out of those, so we were told to hub the IV with a 3ml syringe, so we resourceful ER RN's...began to open those really expensive picc line kits and taking the caps and tossing the kits. This went on for two days before they decided to order us more J-loops. HCA is a disgusting hospital system, Julie if your reading this... getting fired sucks, but count your blessings.

Now the one part I don't understand is why floor RN's are all bugged out about acuity and ratios. In the ER we are 5-1 regardless of acuity. I routinely have 3 ICU level patients on drips even sedated and vented. Plus my other 2 patients which are ESI 3's. 4 and 5 ESI the main ER never sees. Now granted I am not caring for this patient for 12 hours but when we have holds, we don't get floor ratios so please help this ER RN understand what is the big deal.

2 wrongs don't make a right.

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7 minutes ago, klone said:

Or you could, Kooky. You seem very passionate on the subject.

I was a union rep for years.

It is nearly impossible to get nurses to step up, to take a stand. They mostly want someone to do the heavy lifting, failing to realize that they are part of the problem because they do nothing to advance the cause of proper working conditions for nurses.

Time was when an ICU nurse never had more than 1 patient. Gone are the days.

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Specializes in Critical Care-Case Management.

Bravo Julie! I just cannot understand why nurses across the country do not stand together and unionize. it is not fair for Julie to have to do this alone!! Hospitals cannot operate without nurses.

You may have to strike for a period, but the outcome is so worth it.

I practice in California and am protected by CNA. They have to seen to it that we are the highest paid nurses in the nation. (Dues are high but it is worth it).

Our hospital continue to pull "fast ones" regularly ( usually around staffing) and it is so gratifying to see CNA go after them.

Please see your worth.

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Hence why people won't speak up and just keep their heads down (work in silence and suffer).

7 hours ago, peggyon said:

Bravo Julie! I just cannot understand why nurses across the country do not stand together and unionize. it is not fair for Julie to have to do this alone!! Hospitals cannot operate without nurses.

You may have to strike for a period, but the outcome is so worth it.

I practice in California and am protected by CNA. They have to seen to it that we are the highest paid nurses in the nation. (Dues are high but it is worth it).

Our hospital continue to pull "fast ones" regularly ( usually around staffing) and it is so gratifying to see CNA go after them.

Please see your worth.

Problem is there will always be someone willing to take her job instead of fighting for what is right. Money is the root. Hospitals want to make as much money as possible and get away with doing things unsafe, meanwhile creating policies that halfway work because of the overstaffing.

7 hours ago, Kooky Korky said:

I was a union rep for years.

It is nearly impossible to get nurses to step up, to take a stand. They mostly want someone to do the heavy lifting, failing to realize that they are part of the problem because they do nothing to advance the cause of proper working conditions for nurses.

Time was when an ICU nurse never had more than 1 patient. Gone are the days.

Even speaking up on problematic co-workers can possibly get one fired.