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allnurses Guide · Jan 4, 2018

Which states don't recognize CRNA's as APRN's?

allnurses Guide · Jan 4, 2018

Possibly much of what I post, but certainly not everything. For the record I am not anti APRN. I am anti APRNs who don't know what they are doing, accept terrible wages and in my specialty can't discern BPD from BiPad. I am also not anti-Doctorate. I am anti-additional alphabet soup for us to fluff our ego and name tag without significantly impacting our practice.
Nursing has been an excellent experience for me however I believe we are overly focused on increasing our presence and trying to get a seat at the table. We seem willing to alienate instead of join our physician colleagues. Big mistake in my opinion. I wish we would have chosen quality over quantity.

The ongoing fight with physician political/professional organizations has been ongoing for over a 100 years. There is a book that outlines this ongoing problem with nurse anesthetist and the legal battles from the early 1900s. "Watchful Care A History of America's Nurse Anesthetists" is the book and you can see the same arguments used a 100 years ago that are being used today.

Physicians and physician groups for the most part don't want to work with APRNs they want APRNs to work for them at as a low wage as possible, to be subservient to physicians, and they want exclude APRNs from billing on their own.

I've heard APRNs complain about the quality of their training or other APRNs training, but can you cite any data showing care by APRNs is inferior to physicians. That is what it comes down to is the care by APRNs on par or better than the physician counterparts.

Can you also explain why no one felt threatened when many other healthcare professionals (pharmacy, PT/OT/ST etc) moved to getting a doctorate, but when nursing moves in the same direction for many of the same reasons nurses are viewed as egotistical, degree inflation, physician wannabes, etc.?

Jules A, MSN · Jan 4, 2018

Can you also explain why no one felt threatened when many other healthcare professionals (pharmacy, PT/OT/ST etc) moved to getting a doctorate, but when nursing moves in the same direction for many of the same reasons nurses are viewed as egotistical, degree inflation, physician wannabes, etc.?

No I can't and why would you ask me to explain this? It is as if you are going out of your way to pull me in arguments I have no interest in and are actually irrelevant to the topic at hand. Who cares if people are scoffing at these other groups or not? I actually don't recall making a statement about PharmDs, PT, OT, STs although if I did it was probably to raise my eyebrows if they are calling themselves doctor in a hospital setting.

allnurses Guide · Jan 4, 2018

No I can't and why would you ask me to explain this? It is as if you are going out of your way to pull me in arguments I have no interest in and are actually irrelevant to the topic at hand. Who cares if people are scoffing at these other groups or not? I actually don't recall making a statement about PharmDs, PT, OT, STs although if I did it was probably to raise my eyebrows if they are calling themselves doctor in a hospital setting.

You are right it is different topic than this thread.

caliotter3 · Jan 4, 2018

Back to the original question, OP, have you prayed on the matter?

djmatte, ADN, MSN, RN, NP · Jan 5, 2018

Not telling you what tampon you are allowed to use just suggesting a few qualities that one might require in an exceptional tampon.
It isn't unreasonable to view the curriculum and/or product being produced and make a fairly accurate assessment about what a program entails. Here is another loose analogy for you: I don't need to actually inject heroin to have the insight and ability to educate my patients that its not a good idea.

To be fair, if the tampon is crudding up the area you sit, suggesting something better might be a good idea. :)