How many RN's scrub?

shodobe · Sep 24, 2004

onebadort, please enlighten us in the use of " certified" personel instead of RNs. As far as I know hospitals in general can not function without the use of RNs, not LPNs or ORTs, but Registered Nurses in any department that cares for patients. Now I might be wrong, but I know I am not, ORs can not run WITHOUT RNs, but CAN run without scrub techs at all. As I have said before and will still say is ORs can get along just fine without orts but by state law, at least in California, patient care must be by an RN. All you are is cheap labor that all hospitals want because it isn't the skills that you have that make you enticing, it is the low pay they have to shell out. You see, I have no real problem with orts in general, it is people like you that make out that without you the OR would just collapse. I don't think so, the OR will be still there with me standing by but you might not because your position is expendable at any time. Take a chill pill and stop making out like your so important that the world will stop without your "surgeon running to you begging you to help him" or some dim-witted nurse asking your opinion on something. This is why I don't answer too many threads here because most of the time I just shake my head and wonder out loud about not the questons as much but some of the answers given. You, on the other hand, had to get the hair on the back of my neck standing up. I just couldn't sit back without an answer. My suggestion is just do your job, don't worry about what any of us think about you, as if you cared, and will go about our business without the back stabbing. Fair enough? I would like to know, by the way, what states are getting "rid" of the RNs in the OR because I would greatly love to avoid those as places of "unsafe" practices. Good luck anyway.

orrnlori, RN · Sep 24, 2004

WHAT MKES ME SO SPECIAL IS IN FACT THERE'S NOT A DAY THAT GOES BY THAT IM NOT BEING BEGGED BY A SURGEON TO HELP, OR A DAY THAT GOES BY THAT IM NOT BEING QUESTIONED TO DEATH ABOUT SOMETHING FROM THE NURSES! AND NO I DOUBT U COULD WORK CIRCLES AROUND ME, I AM A WONDERFUL TECH AND PROUD OF IT!!! PLUS IF YOU DID WORK A CIRCLE AROUND ME, ITS ONLY BECAUSE YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN AROUND THE BLOCK A TIME OR TWO, BUT NOT BECAUSE YOU'RE BETTER, AND PLUS I WAS TRYING TO BE NICE AND SAY THAT NURSES WHO SCRUB DESERVE A PAT ON THE BACK COMPARED TO THOSE WHO DON'T WANT TO, BUT YOU GUYS WERE THE ONES WHO BLEW IT OUT OF PROPORTION, SO SUIT YOURSELF!!!!!

This is one of the funniest things I've read in a long long time. I'll have to watch for the surgeon that runs around begging a scrub tech to help them. What a hoot! :rotfl:

ONEBADORT · Sep 25, 2004

This is one of the funniest things I've read in a long long time. I'll have to watch for the surgeon that runs around begging a scrub tech to help them. What a hoot! :rotfl:

OR TECHS- a cut above the rest, yeah , i have a shirt that says that!!!

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Sep 26, 2004

anybody can type in a computer and go fetch stuff that the scrubbed staff need!

Oh i'm sure they CAN, but computer work and 'fetching' stuff that you should have already planned ahead and had in the room is just 0.001% of a circulator's job.

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Sep 26, 2004

hey you're the one who said the RN's have to work hard to keep their identity in the OR , not me, and of course, i expected you to be the one to reply, since you apparently think you are the GOD of RN's, and yes frankly i think the o.r could run without nurses, what do they do that a tech can't, just because some bunch of people in the political world think there should be an RN in the room is the only reason why there IS one!!! anybody can type in a computer and go fetch stuff that the scrubbed staff need!

A few reasons why the OR needs RNs:

Moderate/Conscious sedation (Do you know what to give, how much to give, when to start, and how often? What's the SEs? What's the classification? What's the antidote?)

Antibiotics (what gerneration is it? how fast should it infuse. You DO know Dose Calc, correct??)

IV restarts (Surely if they don't need nurses in the in the OR, then YOU know how to do IVs then, right??)

There's plenty more that a tech's not even remotely qualified for, but people will only believe and see what they want, and i've got other threads i want to read on this board today:rolleyes: .

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Sep 26, 2004

(Quite honestly i've never seen a surgeon beg for ANYONE for anything LMAO!!)

carcha · Sep 26, 2004

Here we go round again but as you all know I just love this topic. Again we have the non nursing personnel banging on and on. Do I have a problem with non nursing personnel in the OR, actually no I dont as long as they realise they are instrument technicians and thats basically it. They can be the most brilliant patient carers, the most knowledgable people I dont care, until they get up and do their RN training so that we both share responsibility for our actions then I prefer to work with RN's only. Also something that occured to me, I have worked with techs and RN's and with RN's only but I have never, never heard of an OR that is managed by techs only. Why is that?

shodobe · Sep 26, 2004

Here we go round again but as you all know I just love this topic. Again we have the non nursing personnel banging on and on. Do I have a problem with non nursing personnel in the OR, actually no I dont as long as they realise they are instrument technicians and thats basically it. They can be the most brilliant patient carers, the most knowledgable people I dont care, until they get up and do their RN training so that we both share responsibility for our actions then I prefer to work with RN's only. Also something that occured to me, I have worked with techs and RN's and with RN's only but I have never, never heard of an OR that is managed by techs only. Why is that?

Because, carcha, it doesn't and will never exist. Just be thankful that he doesn't work in your OR. Mike

Marie_LPN, RN, LPN, RN · Sep 27, 2004

The self-entitlement attitude wouldn't fly where i work. Wouldn't matter WHAT the person's job/title is.

Ferret · Sep 29, 2004

One bad ORT. Your name says it all, really. One really, crappy, bad ORT. Your attitude speaks louder than words, you obviously don't work as part of the closely knit team that to me makes the OR the supreme place to work. You seem to have missed the title at the top of this page, mate, so I'll remind you, it's "allNURSES.com", so what the heck are you doing here? You obviously are not a nurse, obviously have no interest in nurses, and obviously do not belong on these forums. Go away.

We are threatened by unregulated workers taking nursing jobs here in Australia, although thank goodness we have no scrub techs, and your example has served to only strengthen my conviction that people like you have no place in the OR, or hospitals in general.

BYE!

Ferret 8^)

MsHB · Sep 29, 2004

One bad ORT. Your name says it all, really. One really, crappy, bad ORT. Your attitude speaks louder than words, you obviously don't work as part of the closely knit team that to me makes the OR the supreme place to work. You seem to have missed the title at the top of this page, mate, so I'll remind you, it's "allNURSES.com", so what the heck are you doing here? You obviously are not a nurse, obviously have no interest in nurses, and obviously do not belong on these forums. Go away.
We are threatened by unregulated workers taking nursing jobs here in Australia, although thank god we have no scrub techs, and your example has served to only strengthen my conviction that people like you have no place in the OR, or hospitals in general.
BYE!
Ferret 8^)

Well said, Ferret.

Ferret · Sep 30, 2004

Well said, Ferret.

Why thank you, MsHB! I liked it myself.... :coollook: