How many residents do you care for Per Shift?

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I work 1400-2230 as an LPN (soon to be RN as soon as I take boards). I work in a LTC facility that has 68 beds that are always full. So, each night, on second shift there is always myself and 1 other nurse. We are constantly promised that we will "soon" get an OMT to help with med pass, but this never occurs. I am curious what other LTC 2nd shift (evening) nurses have to deal with?

My duties: I have 34 residents a night... all get pills at 1700, about 50% of these get pills again at 2000, and about 25% get pills at 2200. I have approximately 10 diabetics that need blood sugars/insulin at least once per shift, 3 wound dressings that take atleast 10 minutes each, I have 2 residents with G-tubes. Almost all my residents get atleast 5-10 different meds during our 1700 med pass. I have 10 residents with eye drops, 4 with weekly procrit injections, 1 with a colostomy that gets completely changed q3 days. This is in addition to the fact that our secretary leaves at 1500, so we answer phones, respond to faxes, get doctor orders, sign out meds from pharmacy, call family with labs/med change/condition changes, ect.

And then comes charting.... on average, of my 34 residents, at least 6-10 are skilled, so they require mandatory in-depth charting, usually 4-10 residents are "flagged" (i.e. monitor for mood changes d/t decreased antidepressant), and then any charting that comes from lab results, med changes, ect.

I'm just very interested in what other nurses responsibilities are, such as how many residents they are responsible for, ect. Even our first shift nurses (0600-1430) often get stuck with just 2 nurses and 1 OMT for all 68 residents. I'm very interested in what everyone else has to deal with!

Specializes in psychiatric, UR analyst, fraud, DME,MedB.

Now that sounds organized and not stressed. You mention you have 4 cna's? and one wound nurse? Wow , this facility really sounds like they are tkaing care of our elderly ! Very good news. I guess I will have to ask the kind of staffing , and other important questions to make me see if the facility is well run or just one of those places that is just pure business..........and you know what that means.

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatric, Hospice.
Does anyone ever consider how the CEOs of these companies sit in their million $ mansions and enjoy the holidays while the worker bees provide for their rich filthy lifestyle. It is a disgusting system. And like it was mentioned before, if you guys quit, there are dozens behind you to take your job.It is a corrupt system...

This is an echo to my words lately- short staffing nurses only in turn COSTS more money with sick people getting by unseen and lawsuits IMO. People getting sent out to hospital more and more frequently because changes in their status aren't being caught quickly enough and treated at the facility before they get too dire. I know corporate puts pressure on management about the hours of nurses and having too many nurses on at one time.. but what the hell- I CANT do my charting until after I report off most of the time, and recently it as MY charting I stayed a few minutes after to do that could be saving us from a giant SBO lawsuit... (hopefully)!!! Plus- it's my license to protect as well!

Screw corporate. :)

Oh yea, and to answer the question about staffing, lately the census has been super low because so many people are having to be sent out to hospital (possibly a product of daytime short-staffing), but I usually have about 30-32 when upstairs is full at 64. To give you an idea- on my shift I've been finding people who need hospital attention ASAP and our census is now at 55 upstairs. We had a diarrhea bug going around that really took it's toll on a few of these fragile people..

Specializes in Foot care.

Oy. I'm a new grad, that's MAY 2009, still without a job and not one interview. I have my first interview scheduled with a nursing home in my town (big plus on the location) and I'm pretty darned nervous. I love old people, just enjoy the heck out of them. I think I would love geriatric nursing and if I could improve the lives of any of them where I worked, I would be so happy about that. But the stories I hear here scare the crap out of me. And I suspect that nursing homes are depressing dead end repositories. If I got offered a job I'd probably take it; I need that first job badly. There's something wrong with this world. Sigh.

Specializes in Geriatrics, Home Health.

I work in an ALF, with 155 residents between 2 buildings. My building has about 60 independent residents, and 22 residential care residents. I mostly work with the residential care residents, but I also assist independent residents in emergencies.

I work 11-7 and have to take care of 75 patients on two floors

i have 20-25 patients, and i work the 3-11p. i used to be in the same position, where it would be just me and one other nurse, plus treatments, having to take dr orders, charting, labs, etc, all on my own. but recently my DON decided to give us a desk nurse every night, even on the weekends. it's been SO helpful. all i have to worry about is my med pass, some charting, and sometimes treatments. time permitting, the desk nurse will do my treatments for me, as well as admissions, phones, paperwork, labs, etc.

also it's nice to have a 3rd nurse available if i need help, if someone codes, if i need a second opinion about something, etc. i feel much more at ease.

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatric, Hospice.
I work 11-7 and have to take care of 75 patients on two floors

Isnt that out of your scope?! oh my GOD!

Specializes in Med/Surg, Geriatric, Hospice.
Oy. I'm a new grad, that's MAY 2009, still without a job and not one interview. I have my first interview scheduled with a nursing home in my town (big plus on the location) and I'm pretty darned nervous. I love old people, just enjoy the heck out of them. I think I would love geriatric nursing and if I could improve the lives of any of them where I worked, I would be so happy about that. But the stories I hear here scare the crap out of me. And I suspect that nursing homes are depressing dead end repositories. If I got offered a job I'd probably take it; I need that first job badly. There's something wrong with this world. Sigh.

It's also just a product of the lack of value our society places on the elderly as well. I think it's quite sad.

Oy. I'm a new grad, that's MAY 2009, still without a job and not one interview. I have my first interview scheduled with a nursing home in my town (big plus on the location) and I'm pretty darned nervous. I love old people, just enjoy the heck out of them. I think I would love geriatric nursing and if I could improve the lives of any of them where I worked, I would be so happy about that. But the stories I hear here scare the crap out of me. And I suspect that nursing homes are depressing dead end repositories. If I got offered a job I'd probably take it; I need that first job badly. There's something wrong with this world. Sigh.

I would tell any new grad to stay away from LTC. Not that I don't love my job, I do. However, especially for a new nurse, LTC is the worst place to start (believe me, I know, it's where I've started). Long term care facilities are the second-most highly-regulated (and crucified) industries in the US behind Engineering Plants. For a new nurse that has little experience with making critical decisions, accurrate charting, correct communication, blah blah blah, this is the worst place to start out, and I wish I hadn't done that path. For example:

A fellow new graduate of mine worked the night shift at my LTC facility. Resident had bed alarm as she did not understand the need for assistance.

Res got up without assistance, without putting call light on, and attempted to walk to the bathroom. Bed alarm did not go off. Res tripped on cord attached to call light, fell, broke her neck.

New grad nurse charted that alarm did not go off, that Res tripped on cord, ect. This kind of inexperienced (though TRUE) charting made her close to losing her license, because as charge nurse these things should not have occured (it's your job to keep paths clear, check alarms, ect) There are just too many things that can go wrong in LTC and your facility typically does not cover you in their insurance, so your A** is on the line every time you chart a single word!

Not to be a debbie-downer, but LTC can eat you alive. I am so lucky to have made it 6 months as a new nurse without getting written up nor having a mandatory report sent in for something that happened on my shift.

Specializes in Foot care.
Not to be a debbie-downer, but LTC can eat you alive. I am so lucky to have made it 6 months as a new nurse without getting written up nor having a mandatory report sent in for something that happened on my shift.

Don't worry about being a debbie-downer, someone has to tell it like it is and I appreciate hearing the facts, even if they do scare me. I'm pretty scared already about not getting a job. I am lucky, lucky, lucky that I don't need the job for the money, if I did, and I had loans over my head I'd be tearing my hair out; then I'd be saying bye-bye to the husband while I relocated temporarily and got that 1 year experience, away from home. I have started to consider traveling further than daily commuting distance for that first hospital job... My next move is to look and see what's available a little further from home.

Specializes in Case mgmt., rehab, (CRRN), LTC & psych.

I work the 16-hour weekend double shift (0600 to 2200) and have 38 residents with a medication aide and five CNAs.

I would tell any new grad to stay away from LTC. Not that I don't love my job, I do. However, especially for a new nurse, LTC is the worst place to start (believe me, I know, it's where I've started). Long term care facilities are the second-most highly-regulated (and crucified) industries in the US behind Engineering Plants. For a new nurse that has little experience with making critical decisions, accurrate charting, correct communication, blah blah blah, this is the worst place to start out, and I wish I hadn't done that path.

I think that one reason for some of the problems that new grads have with LTC (besides too many residents) is the lack of a proper orientation. I had a few weeks of orientation, but spent most of that time passing meds, and learning very little about the tons of paperwork that nurses have to do. I still feel like there's so much I don't know. A lot of the work (paper and otherwise) isn't always self-explanatory, plus the residents aren't always "stable."

Plus, I was lucky, considering that many LPNs/LVNs on this site have had as little as 3 days orientation as a new grad. I give them all a lot of credit, as I know I wouldn't have been close to being on my own after such a short period.

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