Homeopathy

ann4m · Mar 10, 2005

Hello everyone!
I am interested in homeopathy, and think I would like to practice it. However, it seems you can't do that without a legal license. I can easily (well, perhaps not easily, but cheaply) become a CNA through my local community college. Would that give me the ability in North Carolina to distribute homeopathical substances? I know laws vary from state to state, I have no idea how to find out about North Carolina. I dont' expect you to know that part. But generally, do I have to get any sort of license to operate a homeopathy business? RN, MD.... does anyone know? I will contact AHNA (got that from a previous post) as well. I'd appreciate any info on that. I certainly don't want to waste any money I don't have on an unnecessary education, or one I can't put to use the way I'd like to.
Oh, and if someone does reply, I'd appreciate it sent in an email too, in case I lose the link to this post. ^__^
Thanks!!
Joseph

I was browsing the web today and just want to let you know there is a homeopathic nurses association website--www.nursehomeopaths.org.

Ann

CharlieRN · May 22, 2005

I can well understand a desire to practice Homeopathy. It is a business in which you get to sell water and charge for it as medicine. Sweet deal. In most places it can still legally be practiced, even though it is based on a outdated and unproved medical theory. Homeopathy has repeatedly failed to show any but placebo effects. This is not surprising given that, frequently, at the dilutions indicated for treatment, there is not even one molecule of the "active ingredient" in a dose of mediction. This is probably the only reason homeopathy has not been banned. Its "medications" are so dilute that they cause no harm.

TiddlywinksMom · Jun 10, 2005

I can well understand a desire to practice Homeopathy. It is a business in which you get to sell water and charge for it as medicine. Sweet deal. In most places it can still legally be practiced, even though it is based on a outdated and unproved medical theory. Homeopathy has repeatedly failed to show any but placebo effects. This is not surprising given that, frequently, at the dilutions indicated for treatment, there is not even one molecule of the "active ingredient" in a dose of mediction. This is probably the only reason homeopathy has not been banned. Its "medications" are so dilute that they cause no harm.

I also was highly sceptical of homeopathy, and couldn't see any reason why it should work, but I came across some info on the web about the work of Jaque Benveniste, who apparently got WBCs to exhibit a reaction to a homeopathically diluted solution of of an antibody (i.e. no antibody was present). In other words, the water molecules had some "memory" of the antibodies that had originally been present. He believed that such memory could be accounted for by the electromagnetic properties of water (that's as clearly as I can put it). (His results were indepentdently confirmed by other researchers.)

If you do a web search of Benveniste you will come across plenty of material calling him a fraud, and declaring that his work has been "debunked", but I read enough about the issue come away with the impression that the debunkers were the ones who were being irrational and pillorying him because his work goes against medical dogma, and against the interests of the pharmaceutical industry.

CharlieRN · Jun 13, 2005

Katie,

The trick with science is not the original work but the consistent replication of that work. Can anybody else duplicate this result? What are the range of substances that have effects when they are diluted to this level?

Remember "Cold Fusion"? One groug of researchers claimed to have gotten hydrogen to change into helium and release energy at room temperature. The age of cheap energy was upon us. Except nobody else could make it work.

TiddlywinksMom · Jun 16, 2005

Katie,
The trick with science is not the original work but the consistent replication of that work. Can anybody else duplicate this result? What are the range of substances that have effects when they are diluted to this level?
Remember "Cold Fusion"? One groug of researchers claimed to have gotten hydrogen to change into helium and release energy at room temperature. The age of cheap energy was upon us. Except nobody else could make it work.

I can't find a lot now, and don't feel like spending all day looking. I did come up with a couple of web pages:

http://www.normanallan.com/Sci/bs.html

http://jacques.benveniste.org/pr-death_en.html

healinghand · Jun 29, 2005

Hello everyone!
I am interested in homeopathy, and think I would like to practice it. However, it seems you can't do that without a legal license. I can easily (well, perhaps not easily, but cheaply) become a CNA through my local community college. Would that give me the ability in North Carolina to distribute homeopathical substances? I know laws vary from state to state, I have no idea how to find out about North Carolina. I dont' expect you to know that part. But generally, do I have to get any sort of license to operate a homeopathy business? RN, MD.... does anyone know? I will contact AHNA (got that from a previous post) as well. I'd appreciate any info on that. I certainly don't want to waste any money I don't have on an unnecessary education, or one I can't put to use the way I'd like to.
Oh, and if someone does reply, I'd appreciate it sent in an email too, in case I lose the link to this post. ^__^
Thanks!!
Joseph

The best thing for you to do is get certified by AHNA as a holistic nurse practioner.http://www.AHNA.org

I am a Homeopath from India.Practiced for 10 years in India and even taught as a lecturer for 2 years there.When I came to this country I practiced with an MD but soon realized that it is illegal to even prescribe without appropriate licence.Here many RN were practicing and prescribing Homeopathy ,hence I thought of pursuing RN.I have recently passed NCLEX after completing the state approved nursing course.

I am looking forward to establish my practice as an independent holistic practioner.I also have plans in future to set up training for those who are interested in Homeopathy.

I wish you good luck

CharlieRN · Jun 30, 2005

[color=#202000]in prof. abouhaidar's viral assay a solution of dna, the genetic ribbon - even after it has been serially diluted until there was no substance left - binds its labeled complementary strand. [color=#202000]in prof. abouhaidar's viral assay a solution of dna, the genetic ribbon - even after it has been serially diluted until there was no substance left - binds its labeled complementary strand. this means water can be patterned; can carry a signal, and in this sense "remembers". water prefers to be ordered, to be patterned, prefers this to our usual conception of liquid as random. water is stressed by, rather than enjoying amorphous chaos. it prefers to be organized, to behave like a crystal. so water takes whatever substance we put in it, be that salt, or sulphur, or viral dna, as a seed from which to organize a pattern.

in the quote above, from the frist of the sites you indicated, there is a spectacular example of bad logic. i think it is actually called leaping to a conclusion, but if that is not the formal name, it none the less is an good description.

[color=#202000]this means water can be patterned; can carry a signal, and in this sense "remembers". water prefers to be ordered, to be patterned, prefers this to our usual conception of liquid as random. water is stressed by, rather than enjoying amorphous chaos. it prefers to be organized, to behave like a crystal. so water takes whatever substance we put in it, be that salt, or sulphur, or viral dna, as a seed from which to organize a pattern.

is a wild leap from the thing which may possibly have been demonstrated:

[color=#202000]a solution of dna, the genetic ribbon - even after it has been serially diluted until there was no substance left - binds its labeled complementary strand.

if super diluted dna remains active and can be shown to do so by multiple independent researchers, which so far has not happened, it means only that. dna remains active in a super dilute solution. period. it does not mean that "water can be patterned". it absolutely does not mean, "[color=#202000]so water takes whatever substance we put in it, be that salt, or sulphur, or viral dna, as a seed from which to organize a pattern." this is indeed exactly what has not been shown. if the intent is to prove the physiologic effectiveness of salt or sulphur in super dilute solutions, then those are what needs to be tested. dna is a massively heavy, molecular weight in the thousands, complex, organic, molecule. it is vastly dissimilar to simple 2 element molecules like salt or [color=#202000]molecule[color=#202000]s of single elements like sulphur.

this "logic" is on a par with saying "there is a four wheeled, man made, machine on mars, therefore all, four wheeled, man made, machines are capable of interplanetary travel", with the intent of justifying selling a ford as a space craft.

WondeRNurse · Jan 10, 2009

CharlieRN, I suggest you read a book entitled, Vibrational Medicine by Dr. Richard Gerber, MD. In that book you will get exposed to more clinical case studies, and, hopefully, a new awareness of what's really going on in this material world.

I am currently an RN, as well as a student of Homeopathy. In the book, The Homeopathic Treatment of Influenza, by Sandra J. Perko, Ph.D, C.C.N., a clear distinction is made on the outcomes from allopathic vs. homeopathic treatement, with case after case of lower mortality rates when homeopathic treatment was administered.

I also encourage you to read some case study reports, from the multitudes of professionals who share their experiences with others. These and more can be found through the National Center for Homeopathy, as well as other sources. Homeopathy is both scientific and profoundly effective, to which I can personally attest.

To shed more light on Homeopathy, is is both green (enviromentally friendly) and cost-effective. No animals are abuse or used for testing purposes. There is no toxic waste from treatment. And the means of determining what remedy works for what illness is done through 'proving', which utilises only healthy individuals and their responses to treatment. They remain healthy, too, unlike the multitudes of animals who, painstakingly live lives with all kinds of growths, diseases, etc. in labs across the world. (And, might I add, at great financial expense!) We fail, in allopathy, to recognize that the human system is wonderous and capable. We fail to see that it is the fever which is killing off the pathogens, and that the diarrhea or vomitus is only the body's way of releasing toxins. We fail to see that skin conditions are one of the body's ways of elimination when we apply a salve to stop the rash. So, what does our body do? It looks for another place to store the toxins or another way to eliminate them. Homeopathy serves to assist our body in its wonderous way of dealing with this world's onslaught of pathogens, in the way that the body knows how. Hopefully, if you take the time to read and research more about this modality, you will see how absolutely amazing homeopathy really is.

tclema · Jan 16, 2009

I love your book suggestions, I will have to read it. My mom is a Naturopathic/Homeopathic practioner for the past 25 years . In Germany, you actually have to pass a federal licensing board to be able to practise and for private health insurance coverage. She works in her own office, but also together with MD's, Hospitals and more on all kinds of cases, from Cancer, to Multiple Sclerosis, plenty of chronic illnesses, Allergies, Psoriasis and more. I have seen quite a few amazing things happen.

Lots of books and studies in Europe for that topic btw.

Niamah · Mar 5, 2009

At the summer camp I have worked at in the past, the Global Youth Village, homeopathy has been offered as a treatment choice for the teens (and parent indicate this as treatment of choice.) The RN operates under standing orders from a MD/Homeopath. By the way, I think they are looking for medical staff for the summer if anyone is interested in checking them out.

sharonshiatsu · Jun 3, 2009

It is amazing to me at this point in time that there are still the naysayers spewing forth their venomous negativity as a few of the posts portrayed. It reminded me of the Dateline they had on the TV years ago when they went after the homeopaths with that same "I'll get you" attitude. I have witnessed some amazing things done with homeopathy and have had the opportunity to practice myself and you could never take away those wonderful and positive experiences....parents grateful that their child was "healed" from their horrid flu after only a few doses of the "miracle pills!" I also saw an MD who was also trained at the Hahnemann Institute bring a friend out of a coma with a single potent dose of homeopathic Opium! Living in Seattle I am in the hub of some pretty wonderful open minds and love that even Rite-Aid and other local drug stores are carrying some remedies and related items. I hope it is this way in other places. What does it cost you closed-minded people to try and see that there are other ways of healing?! Why go out and bad-mouth this lovely science (yes, it is a science) when you could even prove it to yourself. I'm not saying you have to read the Materia Medica but at least read some of the many great books out there on the subject and educate yourselves before you try to dispute what has been practiced for so many years!! Did you know that the Royal Family has always had their own homeopathic practitioner and that the practice has been far more accepted in Europe (& India) than it ever was here in the states. Years ago I graduated from a program at the Hahnemann Medical College and Hospital in Philadelphia. (It has since become part of Drexel University). But it was named for Samuel Hahnemann, the Austrian scientist who developed the science and did the proving. I learned that many of the US medical schools were of that ilk until it all changed and of course the AMA got in and got rid of the homeopaths. So just try to have an open mind for a change and realize that there are so many wonderous ways of healing out there and that the AMA or the"Western" way is not the only thing that works...