Help a dsp out

[kaysgonehome420]

Here's a little background before I get into my question. I have been med passed 2 different times and each time I have overdosed someone with medication both times. This current job I have now is also wanting me to get med passed. Now I have told my company this more than once and I told them that once I was comfortable with the idea of giving meds I would let them know. Well this morning they tried to force me to go to med class at 9 am (in all fairness I thought they'd respect my boundaries) so my question is if you're eligible does that mean you absolutely have to pass meds as a dsp? Can you loose your job over that?

[londonflo]

JKL33 said:

Rather, this is a combination of what your state allows you to do and what your employer desires people in your role to do for them.

The patient I needs in this equation need to be considered 

[JKL33]

londonflo said:

The patient I needs in this equation need to be considered 

I was attempting to answer the OP's question regarding whether s/he absolutely had to pass meds (no) and whether or not they could lose their job if they are unwilling to do so (yes).

You are right about the patient's needs of course.

[kaysgonehome420]

londonflo said:

And frankly, I object to moving someone who grew accustomed to a place to live because of an employee issue, Better to move the employee.

That's not what they meant they meant add another dsp to that home that can or is willing to pass meds not the residents 

[FolksBtrippin, BSN, RN]

londonflo said:

And frankly, I object to moving someone who grew accustomed to a place to live because of a employee issue, Better to move the employee.

I would move the employee, of course.

Part of the problem here is that we have a lot of people commenting who do not understand the way group homes work and don't understand the DSP role. 

[londonflo]

I admit I do not understand the way groups homes operate or the DSP role.

I would ask that if your healthcare role is non-traditional you explain/help me  with the nuances of you meeting  the patients (#1) needs and your job requirements.

It would be wonderful if another DSP worker could assist with medication administrations. 

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I would move the employee, of course.

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That's not what they meant they meant add another dsp to that home that can or is willing to pass meds not the residents 

This is what you get when the situation/employment requirements/patient needs/employee needs are an unknown in this equation

[kaysgonehome420]

londonflo said:

I admit I do not understand the way groups homes operate or the DSP role.

I would ask that if your healthcare role is non-traditional you explain/help me  with the nuances of you meeting  the patients (#1) needs and your job requirements.

It would be wonderful if another DSP worker could assist with medication administrations. 

This is what you get when the situation/employment requirements/patient needs/employee needs are an unknown in 

what exactly do you mean by this is what you get when the situation/employment/ etc. mean? 
 

 

so for starters dsp means direct support professional. We're practically uncertified CNA's we do everything a CNA does and then some. You'll find us in group homes taking care of elderly people with mental disabilities. It's a job that I truly believe you have to have a bit of a heart for because some of them can be very dangerous. I've been kicked, bitten, smacked, punched, choked, thrown. You name it, it's probably happened to me. That is why it's recommended to have two people (dsps) at least at a house.  But the issue here was the past two times I had been med passed I had overdosed someone, I had told the company I was not okay with it and they tried to force me. I simply asked if I could get fired for not going on purpose. 

[londonflo]

FolksBtrippin said:

Part of the problem here is that we have a lot of people commenting who do not understand the way group homes work and don't understand the DSP role. 

I meant that I responded one way (because I did not understand the service model) and someone else understood differently. I am owning that I commented without knowing even the basics of the DSP home model.

kaysgonehome420 said:

That is why it's recommended to have two people (dsps) at least at a house.  

I appreciate you explaining the way it works and I appreciate your dedication to the position. 

[kaysgonehome420]

londonflo said:

I meant that I responded one way (because I did not understand the service model) and someone else understood differently. I am owning that I commented without knowing even the basics of the DSP home model.

I appreciate you explaining the way it works and I appreciate your dedication to the position. 

Ohhhh okayyyyy.

 

 

Also no problem. This is something I feel passionate about and eventually I do plan to push my role in this type of field because of how much I love it. Like we also take care of people with a g-tube ( feeding tube) and I love dealing with it as gross as it is. It's OK to not understand my position because I'm willing to explain it so if you have any more questions feel free to ask 

[FolksBtrippin, BSN, RN]

londonflo said:

I admit I do not understand the way groups homes operate or the DSP role.

I would ask that if your healthcare role is non-traditional you explain/help me  with the nuances of you meeting  the patients (#1) needs and your job requirements.

It would be wonderful if another DSP worker could assist with medication administrations. 

This is what you get when the situation/employment requirements/patient needs/employee needs are an unknown in this equation

Thanks for your comment. As a former group home nurse, I would try to med pass every employee, because it's most convenient to have everyone med passed. However, I would absolutely not want to lose someone who loves the job, just because they don't want to be med passed or are not ready to be med passed. 

If the OP were working under me, I would hope she would communicate her concerns. It's likely that the state requires the OP to take the class, and pass the class. However, if the OP is not comfortable with the duty of passing meds, the company can still be compliant if they assign it to someone else. So communication is key here. I would hate for the OP to quit her job just because she was required to take the class, if the company is okay with her not actually passing meds.