Healthcare-NOW! 2009 National Strategy Conference

GCTMT · Oct 22, 2009

Good for you Big Red. I am also a member of Health-Care NOW! but I will be unable to attend the function in St. Louis.

Hopefully soon they will be an organized even in my neck of the woods.

bigreddog1934 · Oct 23, 2009

Where are you from GCTMT? I am north of Denver and helping to plan the civil disobedience action at an insurance company to be announced. This is just the start. It our civil rights movement and RNs should be at the front of the entire cause for universal, non profit health care.

I would encourage all RNs here, as well as student RNs to get involved in this movement. it long overdue.

K98 · Oct 25, 2009

Where are you from GCTMT? I am north of Denver and helping to plan the civil disobedience action at an insurance company to be announced. This is just the start. It our civil rights movement and RNs should be at the front of the entire cause for universal, non profit health care.
I would encourage all RNs here, as well as student RNs to get involved in this movement. it long overdue.

You might be surprised at the number of RNs (3 in my house, most at my hospital) that don't support any of this stuff. That is pretty much a reflection of the public at large.

bigreddog1934 · Oct 25, 2009

"On the issue that has been perhaps the most pronounced flash point in the national debate, 57 percent of all Americans now favor a public insurance option, while 40 percent oppose it."

- Washington Post-ABC News poll, October 20, 2009

Once again, K98, your personal experiences to do replace the actual evidence. And given the accelerating failure of health insurance, I would expect the number favoring guaranteed healthcare to rise in the future.

K98 · Oct 25, 2009

A Washington Post poll? Come now, they are farther left than Pravda. You can do better than that.

bigreddog1934 · Oct 25, 2009

Yes, K98. At this point would you like me to do your research for you, or would you actually like to look outside of your personal experience and perceptions for information. Either one is fine with me. We can consider it a mutual exploration into US healthcare satisfaction numbers.

Also, does the World Health Organization have any credibility with you? How about Gallup and USA Today?

I am just wondering where your sources of information come from before we start into an informed discussion.

elkpark · Oct 26, 2009

A Washington Post poll? Come now, they are farther left than Pravda. You can do better than that.

The Washington Post is a lot more credible than your personal opinion ...

RN4MERCY · Oct 27, 2009

I am headed to this in November. It is the most important patient advocacy of our times.
Healthcare-NOW! is the coalition that has been staging sit - ins at insurance companies around the country. Our position is that profit needs to be taken out of health care funding and that a single payer system should replace the debacle we are currently in.
Healthcare-NOW! 2009 National Strategy Conference
Join Us in St. Louis!
You are invited to join Healthcare-NOW! activists from around the country to plan our strategy to win guaranteed single-payer national health insurance. By learning and sharing from one another we can build on the tremendous successes of the last year and develop the plan to push Congress to implement single-payer national health insurance NOW.
When: Saturday, November 14th and Sunday, November 15th
Where: Sheraton Westport Plaza, 900 Westport Plaza, St. Louis, MO
Time: Sat, 4pm - 9pm (dinner on your own)
Sun, 8am - 4pm
http://www.healthcare-now.org/campaigns/strat-conf/

Way to go, bigreddog. Sorry I won't be able to join in on this one, but I'll be interested in hearing updates on their future strategies. Do you happen to know if they're planning any sit ins that target specific legislators who are voting to keep the status quo = insurance companies in charge of who gets to live or die? Many of us think they're defacto members of the insurer's death squads and we should be mobilizing to call out these corporate handmaidens and "death by spreadsheet bureaucrats". They're the enemies of patients, nurses, and humanity in general and they shouldn't be able to get away with thwarting the will of the people. We need to elect people who will take their job of protecting the public more seriously. I agree that equitable and fair access to healthcare has become the civil rights issue of our time. Thanks for your advocacy for a single payer national health plan. Everybody in, nobody out!

K98 · Oct 28, 2009

Yes, K98. At this point would you like me to do your research for you, or would you actually like to look outside of your personal experience and perceptions for information. Either one is fine with me. We can consider it a mutual exploration into US healthcare satisfaction numbers.
Also, does the World Health Organization have any credibility with you? How about Gallup and USA Today?
I am just wondering where your sources of information come from before we start into an informed discussion.

None of those sources have any credibility with a large number of Americans. You can surf the net to find support for ANY position, then link it. So what. All that means is that you can waste your time developing sources that agree with YOU. You communists get a little testy at times. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

RN4MERCY · Oct 28, 2009

None of those sources have any credibility with a large number of Americans. You can surf the net to find support for ANY position, then link it. So what. All that means is that you can waste your time developing sources that agree with YOU. You communists get a little testy at times. Tsk, tsk, tsk...

K98, hello.

What's your strategy for healthcare reform? Do you even believe that reform is necessary? This thread isn't about communism and your name-calling doesn't further the discussion; in this case it appears to be an attempt to shut it down, or "hijack" the thread.

Communism (from ConservaPedia): Communism is a materialistic and militantly atheistic ideology created to justify the overthrow of "Capitalism", replacing free market economics and democracy with a "dictatorship of the proletariat". Under Communism, the political system replaces the private ownership of the means of production with "collective ownership" (actually nationalization).
Troll (from Urban Dictionary): One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

So, do you agree or disagree with acts of civil disobedience as a strategy to raise the consciousness of people regarding the injustice inherent in a for-profit health insurance industry? Have you ever been to a Healthcare-NOW rally? I have and there are wonderful people who put their heart and soul into making this country a better place to live---union workers, churchgoers, teachers, firefighters, physicians and nurses are willing to risk arrest as advocates for social justice in health care.

To us that means winning a single payer system, an improved and expanded MediCare for All national health plan.

Onekidneynurse · Oct 28, 2009

K98, hello.
What's your strategy for healthcare reform? Do you even believe that reform is necessary? This thread isn't about communism and your name-calling doesn't further the discussion; in this case it appears to be an attempt to shut it down, or "hijack" the thread.
So, do you agree or disagree with acts of civil disobedience as a strategy to raise the consciousness of people regarding the injustice inherent in a for-profit health insurance industry? Have you ever been to a Healthcare-NOW rally? I have and there are wonderful people who put their heart and soul into making this country a better place to live---union workers, churchgoers, teachers, firefighters, physicians and nurses are willing to risk arrest as advocates for social justice in health care.
To us that means winning a single payer system, an improved and expanded MediCare for All national health plan.

Might I ask why you believe you have to demonstrate? I thought this health care reform is/was a done deal?

Is Kellog's a for profit company. Imagine the right to food and someone's making obsence profits from cereal?