HCA Hospital??

[hospitalstaph]

Hello,

I am currently in school for my ADN and talked to an LPN student today. She told me that HCA hospitals do not use RN's on med-surg floors. She said that only the charge nurse is an RN and that all of the others are LPN's. She also said that HCA pays their LPN's $18/per hour. From what I hear, most hospitals around here start RN grads out at $18-21 an hour so I am kinda wondering if this is really the case.

Any info would be appreciated,

Tracy

[40plus3]

Hi Tracy,

I can tell you they don't pay those wages in Springfield. The new grad RN wage is $16.50/hr, LPNs make $11.00/hr. I am so discussed with this area I could scream. I moved here for a job and found out there are problems - like medicare fraud investigations and embezzlement. Now I"m stuck here with a house payment and no $$. Good luck, but you probably want to stick close to STL or KC.

tracy:scrying:

[hospitalstaph]

Oh Tracy,

I am so sorry to hear what you are going through:(

I don't plan to leave the KC area. I have heard that the HCA owned hospitals are so bad to work for and that they really do not treat their employees very well, and then this LPN student tells me that they will pay her $18/hour right out of school! I am finding this hard to believe. RN grads are hire at $18 an hour right out of school, so why would they hire LPN's to fill these positions? (Believe me I am in NO way knocking LPN's. My hubby has Crohn's and is regularly hospitalized and some of the best care is from LPNs)

Tracy

[DutchgirlRN, ASN, RN]

I work in a HCA hospital. New grad pay is around $18/hr. LPN new grad pay is around $13/hr. LPN's top out around $18/hr. Therefore a new RN and seasoned LPN would be making the same amount per hour. I've been a nurse for 30 years and make almost $30/hr. I don't know where RN's top out?

[DutchgirlRN, ASN, RN]

No RN's except charge on a med/surg floor? I would highly doubt that is true.

[gauge14iv, MSN, APRN, NP]

That is absolutely bunk in the several HCA's I worked for!!!

In fact - 2 years ago they cut the LVN's out of the ICU's - even those that had been there for 20 years or more! :uhoh21:

In addition - most of the floors were staffed about 3/4 or 2/3 RN and about 1/4 to 1/3 LVN. There are a lot of LVN's in the Dallas area, so I know it isn't for lack of them. Pay scales for HCA facilities are based on the surrounding area.

So don't believe everything you hear. Sounds like someone might be misinformed...

[hospitalstaph]

Thanks so much for the great replies. I was just curious if the info that this LPN student gave me was true, although I didn't think it was:) She made it sound like she would be graduating before me and making the same amount that I would be a year later.

Again thanks for the great replies,

Tracy

[hospitalstaph]

That is absolutely bunk in the several HCA's I worked for!!!

In fact - 2 years ago they cut the LVN's out of the ICU's - even those that had been there for 20 years or more! :uhoh21:

In addition - most of the floors were staffed about 3/4 or 2/3 RN and about 1/4 to 1/3 LVN. There are a lot of LVN's in the Dallas area, so I know it isn't for lack of them. Pay scales for HCA facilities are based on the surrounding area.

So don't believe everything you hear. Sounds like someone might be misinformed...

I would hate to see LPN's cut from hospitals!!! On the med/surg floor at the hospital that we use (when hubby is in with Crohns flare) the LPNs are great. I really think that the care that he recieved would not have been anywhere near as good without the LPN's. I believe that the RN had 6 patients under her care. How could these patients be cared for (and cared for well) without an extra set of hands? Besides, many of them are also in school for their RN so it gives me someone to bounce questions off when we are at the hospital:)

Tracy