VA RN grading and pay. Was there a mistake?

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Hello, I have recently been hired by the VA and feel as though I was hired at the wrong level. I obtained my BSN in 3 of 2015, however, prior to that, I have been and worked consistently as an RN since 10/2009. That is over 5 years of RN experience, starting off in the MICU, then doing IR, and now hired by the VA back in a MICU. My salary is much lower than the private sector. I took a $17K pay cut, and now I feel as if I made a mistake.

I understand the benefits are great with the VA but I live in NYC where our hospitals are unionized and the benefits are just as good as the VA, but with a much higher pay rate.

Can someone let me know how to go about determining if I was hired at the correct level and grade? I was hired as a RN 1, Level 2, Step 5.

I also believe I have 30 days to dispute this which means I only have about a week left until I have been here for 30 days.

Thank you for your input.

It is hard to navigate the VA where I work because I am constantly being redirected to a different department that is supposed to be able to help me.

Hey, I have been searching the internet for information on how to complete the Nurse II proficiency report. I thought I did a fairly good job but was only offered Nurse 1 step 12. They have agreed to let me revise and resubmit. I have been a nurse for 16 yrs (according to their calculator - 5 years LPN, 10 years ADN, 1 year BSN. ( does not take into account that I am halfway through Masters program). My understanding is that I should have been offered Nurse II step? grade? based on existing years of practice and education. Is there anyway I can get your help on this form? [email protected] I can't PM you as not a member long enough. I need to get this turned in by the end of the week.

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You have an extra number in there. If you were hired as an RN 2, step 5, that sounds very good. Generally you only get to RN 3 when you have a position that impacts the entire facility you are at (assistant nurse manager, etc.) There is no RN1, level 2, step 5. I was started as an RN 2, step 3 with 5 years experience, bsn, master's (in another discipline), CCRN, etc. So I'd say you fared pretty well. And just fyi, there's only a few dollars/hr here or there between the various levels. Generally, protesting your pay is nearly impossilbe/non-negotiable. The money to be made in the VA isn't where you start, it is how long you stay. Not to mention the federal TSP/retirement is probably one of the best long-term compensation systems I've ever worked for. And you get sooooooo much time off being a federal employee. Don't sweat your $2/hr over what nurse level you came in at. Just fyi, I worked at the VA 2 years, but ultimately as great as the benefits were I decided I didn't like being a federal employee (or working with low-performing federal employees that can't get fired).

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Specializes in Psychiatry.

You sound like a RNII based on the small amount of info in your post. When you are hired, the Nursing Professional Standards Board (NPSB) reviews your application, credentials, experience and any other information you submit and make a decision on where you fall- a Nurse 1, 2 or 3. You are also assigned a "step"- for example, Nurse 2 step 5. This details your salary. You should have been given an offer letter with full salary before you accepted the VA position. Nothing should have been a surprise, so I'm somewhat confused? Working with Vets is wonderful, and you do have the opportunity to submit an annual proficiency to apply to a higher level (such as nurse III). In addition, you will receive a "step" increase every other year automatically. For me, its about 2k every other year. We also get periodic cost of living raises- very small amounts. Best of luck

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I interviewed 2 weeks ago and got a job offer yesterday. I faxed all of my documents over to the NPSB this afternoon and I am curious as to what level I will be brought in at. I have been an RN for 5 years. I have had my BSN since 2013 and my MSN since December of 2016. I will be working as the spinal cord educator. The job description said the salary range was 60k-112k. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated as this is quite confusing.

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Specializes in Psychiatric, Spinal Cord Injury.

j9eRN,

Foggnm and RNfor918 both gave excellent advice about the boarding process. The link below has the pay scales for the Cleveland VA. Scroll down until you find the correct location and scale for your position. Welcome to the VA!!!

https://www.va.gov/OHRM/Pay/2017/LPS/538_554.pdf

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Specializes in Nursing Leadership.

Hi Healthygina,

I see you were not able to dispute your grade but I wanted to let you know your experience is not wasted. I am in the process of on boarding and have learned a great deal from your experience and everyone's response. I have nearly identical education and experience as you so I will be paying close attention to my grading offer. Also, I am being hired PT so I am hoping there will be some hourly benefit for that. Thanks for your post!

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I know this post is old but I would love if you show me how to get promoted. I am a Nurse I level 3. I see that I am not the only one frustrated in writing my annual proficiency. I asked for help from someone that's been in the system for 10 years but nothing became of that.

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I was advised to go online find the profiency examples and write to the next step up.. so nurse 1 should write to nurse 2 profiency. Examples can also be found on intranet under HR I think. Also make sure your keeping a log of the things you do that are going beyond your regular duties so they can be included!

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First of all, thank you for your service and congrats on the VA job (little late but just reading this post). Can you give me some guidance on this Nurse Professional Standards Board Write Up for the Nurse II? Would you be willing to share your forms as a guidance? I have my BSN and 14 years experience as an ER/Trauma nurse and 2 as a Medical Case Manager so I have tons of experience but I don't want to be short changed because my answers don't fit the criteria, you know!

Any advice would be great, greatly appreciated You can email me at my personal email address: [email protected].

Thanks!

Traci

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tallen23 said:
First of all, thank you for your service and congrats on the VA job (little late but just reading this post). Can you give me some guidance on this Nurse Professional Standards Board Write Up for the Nurse II? Would you be willing to share your forms as a guidance? I have my BSN and 14 years experience as an ER/Trauma nurse and 2 as a Medical Case Manager so I have tons of experience but I don't want to be short changed because my answers don't fit the criteria, you know!

Any advice would be great, greatly appreciated You can email me at my personal email address: [email protected].

Thanks!

Traci

What you write depends on what type of position you're applying for. There are levels (Nurse I, II or II) and then clinical pathways (clinical, supervisory, advanced practice and consultant). Write to the level and pathway that is most appropriate for your experience and position.

Several links that might help:

Nine Dimensions of Nursing Practice: Template for VA NPSB (Nurse Professional Salary Board)

https://www.aaacn.org/sites/default/files/documents/SIGS/VA/RNPromotionPresentation.pdf

https://www.siouxfalls.va.gov/careers/jobs/HR_Holding/CLINICAL_NURSE_PATH.pdf

https://www.siouxfalls.va.gov/careers/jobs/HR_Holding/SUPERVISORY_NURSE_PATH.pdf

https://www.siouxfalls.va.gov/careers/jobs/HR_Holding/ADVANCE_PRACTICE_NURSE_PATH.pdf

https://www.siouxfalls.va.gov/careers/jobs/HR_Holding/CONSULTANT_NURSE_PATH.pdf

Note, despite what the linked presentation on promotions indicates, it's no longer common obtain a level beyond what is prescribed for your degree (education waiver).

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