Published Aug 26, 2014
omgthattest
40 Posts
Anyone here have a Canadian and US license? Is it worth getting one to work in the US? Is the whole process worth the hassle? How difficult is it to maintain it?
Silverdragon102, BSN
1 Article; 39,477 Posts
Unless you have definite plans to work in the US you have to ask the question do you really want one?
Fiona59
8,343 Posts
State licences are cheaper but the exam costs money. Which states would you be looking at?
joanna73, BSN, RN
4,767 Posts
Unless you're booking a travel assignment, it's probably not worth going to the US. Their economy is in the toilet and the working conditions are not favourable.
New Mexico
The working conditions are worse than Canada? Hm, I thought it's better as they have CNAs everywhere
JustBeachyNurse, LPN
13,957 Posts
Not necessarily. Often budget cuts and failure to replace staff lost causes high ratios and mandated overtime. Only CA requires safe nurse: patient ratios by law but not in ever practice setting. There is no nursing shortage in much of the US so it's an employers market. Some highly impacted areas have nurse unemployment rates of 20-47% but due to low insurance reimbursement facilities won't adequately staff units.
CoffeeFreak4Eva
1 Post
Hi! I had to sign up on this website just to answer this question. I am a US RN. I am in Las Vegas NV and an ICU RN with almost 6 years experience. Unless you just want to see the US via travel nursing i would highly suggest that you stay in
Canada. I don't know what the typical working conditions are like in Canada however I can tell you they are very unfavorable here. Not sure where the idea about us having CNA's came from lol Management is quick to fire and slow to hire. If someone leaves they are very slow to replace. If they can keep the workforce skeleton crewed. They will. I work in a mixed stepdown and general ICU. It is a rare thing to only have 2 ICUs to 1 RN. Mostly we have 1 RN to and ICU and 2 stepdowns; or 1 RN to 2 ICUs and 1 SD; or 4 SDs; or whatever concoction you can derive from a mix of med-tele, ortho/neuro, ICU, and sd. We do not get CNAs. They are phasing out our unit secretaries/HUCs, they only have 1 EVS/house cleaner employees for the hospital on nights so you as the RN are responsible now for literally everything. We also do not have an in house physician other than the ER physician so if you need anything you have to call your on call physician. It's very challenging to work here. Consider that it is becoming even more challenging.
There is a huge nursing shortage here and it's only getting worse. Hospitals want to hire experienced nurses not new grads for cost. There's a shortage for experienced RNs. But if you don't hire new grads then comes the problem of burning out current experienced ones and those who are retiring. I think it is around 80% of RNs leave the profession here in the US. I love those I work with. I love the diversity and even the experience you can gain here in the US however, it is dangerous to your license and can burn an RN out quickly.
Sorry for the book but I'm very passionate about this. And yes our transition to Obama care and our economy is screwing our healthcare over.
fenders
56 Posts
I work on both sides of the border. It took me some time to get everything together. i got my Ny license and then applied for cgnfs. To me it's all a money racket. Almost like I had to verify my credendials 3 different times. COst about 1000-1500 cdn. But for me was worth it as I got a part time /per diem job in an ER across the border. I buy alot of stuff over there so it was great to have us money for florida trips and purchases. Now that the dollar is declning I am picking up a few more shifts. My work offered me a 3 year TN visa. I personally think it's a good working experience. We can do blood gases over there and they have IV tylonel which I thought was cool. Any questions send me a message. My collegues told me that californina pays the highest and it varies state to state. pay is allright with ny state but not the greatest.
StudentRS
30 Posts
I have worked in both countries and applied for a license in Michigan a year after graduating. My intention was to apply by endorsement to California, so you if change your mind about New Mexico and consider Cali I'm not sure if it's worth the money to apply as they didn't deem my BScN as being up to their educational standards and denied me a license. Anyways, my experience in Michigan was not good. Less pay than here in Ontario (although cost of living in Michigan and other places in the US is cheaper than here and your income is taxed less), hospital was very short staffed and they fired nurses over insignificant incidents (I was mandated to work 16hr shifts overnight because of sick calls), patient admissions/discharges were driven by profit from their insurance as opposed to suitability of that patient for our hospital (worked in psych, this led to many assaults and a patient killing another patient), healthcare benefits weren't very good (you have some coverage, but there is a co-pay for everything so you basically still pay for healthcare), and there are guns everywhere down there. I don't know if it's because I'm from a small city in Canada, but that was unsettling for me and working in psych you actually see how many people who have access to firearms that are mentally unstable. If you truly want to work in the US, it is worth it for experience, travel, taking advantage of shopping and cheap wine (haha), but if it's just something you want to have "in case" you want to work there don't bother until you are sure. You have to pay state licensure fees, NCLEX fees, CGFNS fees, and other additional fees depending on the state then to upkeep your license many states require continuing education hours plus the usual renewal fee. It wasn't difficult to get a TN visa, but the process for licensure can be long depending on the state so I would only go for it if you are serious, or if you have a few years experience in a specialty go through a travel agency so they can assist you with the process and find assignments for you in your state of choice. I am considering applying for a Florida or Hawaii license soon. To live in a warmer climate and enjoy the outdoors more outweighs the cons of some of the US working conditions for me.
That's Intersting StudentRs, I initially got a Michigan License but it wasn't considered equal to NY state. The mentallity on guns is a little crazy.. I just wanted to mention that hawaii is beautiful but it is very very expensive for food, cost of living. I've been to all the islands and almost took a flight nurse job there but thought of not being around family and noone would visit you cause of the cost lol. I did admire that I saw 80 year olds on surf boards. There is also a lot of poverty in hawaii, there's no middle class there it's either poor or rich.
Kissunshine, BSN, MSN, RN, APN, NP
54 Posts
I am a canadian and has been working for 1.5 year in ICU. I am in the process of moving to US, got a few job offers from US (TX and CT), did my nclex and now waiting for my visa screen to go through. I have been visiting the hospitals I might go work for and the condition is really bad compare to Canada, even the Magnet Hospital. There is very little break during a 12hr shift, the pay is the same of what i am getting paid in Montreal but the living expenses are 1.5X.
I am moving there because i want to eventually do grad school, but if you are thinking of getting more money then no, it is not worth it.