Why do so many people want to discourage nursing students???? (vent) - page 2
Ever since I told the first person, besides my husband, that I wanted to be an RN, I can't tell you how many people have told me, my mother or husband that I shouldn't do it. "They're over worked,... Read More
Nov 10, '02Occupation: Student, mother Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 183; Likes: 1Hey you've got what it takes and that's all that matters
Nov 10, '02Joined: Dec '01; Posts: 3,165; Likes: 59Well, I just got done listening to a whole night's worth of moaning from a new nurse, who already listened to all the same stuff you describe, and all she kept saying was, "if I'd known it was gonna be like this, I woulda"==
Eventually, I had to say, "Look, this is how it is."
I really had no answers for her; this IS how it is.
This profession has some very negative characteristics, and it simply does no good to moan about it. I choose to figure out ways to change it while I'm not at work, and shut up while I'm at work.
My advice: Learn to tune it out now, before listening to it in the break room drives you completely crazy, honey.
Nov 10, '02Joined: Nov '00; Posts: 931; Likes: 18Why? Because it's a tough job, as you know. Low pay, compared with other professions, lack of respect, lack of benefits or retirement plans, heavy patient loads, high burn-out rates, high number of on-the-job injuries, exposure to various diseases daily, never being able to be home with your family on holidays and weekends, working odd hours . . .
I'm concentrating on the negatives because you asked why. That's why. Most of those things aren't a big deal when you're younger. But, walk the walk for 20 or 30 years, and it takes on new meaning. Near retirement age and realize you've busted your butt all your life, but won't be able to afford health insurance, have a retirement plan, and live in poverty in your old age. Not a pretty picture. Maybe some of you young'uns can change it. We haven't been able to.Last edit by Youda on Nov 10, '02
Nov 10, '02Occupation: homemaker Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 175; Likes: 2I just want to add my 2 cents in here....
I start school in January and when I told my family I was changing my major (I was originally Mass Comm), they were shocked, but very supportive. My cousin's best friend whom I've known for years is an LVN just finishing up her RN schooling and works in LandD. She says that she is always getting letters and cards from mothers who appreciated her support and care while they were delivering their children. Someone on this board said that people don't come into the hospital for the DOCTOR care, but for the NURSING care.
My aunt has her BSN and she was tickled pink when she found out I was going into nursing. Maybe my situation is unique, but my family and friends have been extremely supportive of my dream to wear the dreaded white support hose, and I am very grateful for that.
After all, those same people that discourage nursing would be in a heckuva pickle when they went into the hospital if we all took their advice and chose something else, wouldn't they?
Hang in there!
Nov 10, '02Joined: Apr '02; Posts: 119; Likes: 1StacyS,
I don't care if more expereinced nurses say "walk a mile in my shoes for 20 or 30 years...." Your life is what YOU make it. It's not all rosey but allot of life isn't, whether it's nursing or accounting or ballet dancing. I had many people say "it's reslly hard..." when they found out I was going to school. But I haven't found a single aspect of school or clinical work "really hard" at all! I love it. Maybe some people aren't made to be nurses. I am through and through. And I will role with the punches as they come and the WILL come. Even if you never hear a single "thank you" from your patients for the rest of your life, if you know you are making a difference is their life and the management of your place of employment, it IS worth it. The next time soemone give you a bad attitude, just say to them, "because I love it!" Hang in there and kick some butt!!!
Nov 10, '02Occupation: homemaker Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 175; Likes: 2Amen, Jill!
I feel the same way. No matter what profession you choose, it will always be difficult. Why waste 4 years (or more) on something that won't challenge you?
Nov 10, '02Occupation: Homemaker Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 24We all who plan to go into nursing are going to get some discouragements from a few people every now and then. But if its in our hearts to do it so let it be. Not everyone has the heart or stomach to do this for a living, but then there r some of us who do have it . Don't let anyone get in the way of your hopes or dreams, Remember people need doctors and nurses to make get them better. I start school in January have my fingers crossed................. Later................
Nov 10, '02Joined: Sep '02; Posts: 910; Likes: 9To add my sentiments, I totally understand. My mom was too embarrassed to tell her friends that I am studying to be a nurse. She told them that I was studying to be a pharmacist! Now, she is more understanding, but thinks that I am settling to become a nurse because I got married young, and had kids. The other week when I was talking to my sister (who is studying to be a teacher) said, "wow, Kim, you are so smart! Why aren't you studying to become a doctor?" Grrr...Maybe because I have never wanted to become a doctor. I know she meant it as a compliment, but you can't exactly be stupid to become a nurse.
Nov 11, '02Occupation: pre-nursing student, secretary - non-medical Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 1,761; Likes: 46Hi Stacy,
I have recieved a lot of negative statements when I say that I'm pursuing a nursing degree.
One person in my office even told me "You may have the personality for it now, but I'd like to see you in 5 years." Whatever that means, and do I even care?
You just gotta keep a tough attitude. Only you know what you are interested in and where you lead your life. As long as you are happy with your decisions, that's all that matters.
I think a lot of negative comments come from people who don't really understand nursing and have these preconceived notions that it's just butt wiping, etc.
I also don't think that a lot of people have a realistic view of professional opportunities that are available right now. So many times I hear, you should go into business or become a teacher or a lawyer, yada, yada, yada. I live in Pittsburgh and there are no teaching jobs, if you go into business as a woman you are automatically made a secretary. There isn't even much need for lawyers here either.
People say, nurses are not respected and make so little money.
Well, do you really think I want to stay in business as a secretary making $25,000.00 / year for the rest of my life?
Its all a matter of perspective but as long as you are doing what makes you happy that's all that matters.
Nov 21, '02Occupation: PCT, nursing student Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 75; Likes: 16Well, what else would they have done and would they still like it after 15 years? Face it....if a job was fun to do for 20 years it wouldn't be paid work, it would be a hobby.
In every job...law, medicine, business, engineering you are going to have people telling you what to do, sometimes those people calling the shots are indiots and not very nice people. Many of the problems with nursing are not unique to nursing, they are problems that the entire working world of women deals with. You cannot run and escape from human nature.
Nov 21, '02Occupation: right now a mom and student Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 72for some reason I do not have that problem.My whole family thinks that I would make a great nurse and my close friends are very supportive also.But this was not a fly by night dream for me this was something that took me 16 years to finally go to school for.
I really pity people who try to crush dreams and not be supportive.The only person I know for me that is not supportive is a woman that is the wife of my husband coworker and she is just jealous because she is an aide and doesn't want to go furhter because of her age(54)
Nov 21, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 64; Likes: 1I am in the same boat. I have been taking pre-reqs for a year now (can only go part time) and finally told my parents. They were shocked!
"What about medical school?"
"What about counseling?"
"What about physical therapy?"
Luckily, my partner has been 100% supportive. He understands that the job that I now have where I am trapped at a desk all day and not feeling like I contribute to society has its downsides. (He's a teacher though so his job is demanding)
Sure, I get decent pay, have an easy day sitting in an ergonomic chair sipping my tea while I push a few buttons. But, I have no person 2 person interaction, and at the end of the day I don't feel good at all about what I have accomplished. The majority of office positions out there are similar. I look forward to finally getting into the nursing field so I can make change in people's lives, make change in the career, and feel good that even though the day was demanding, long, and probably quite difficult, I helped people.
Nov 21, '02Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 11I'm not a nurse yet, but I have done a ton of research into the matter before even considering the career switch.
The first thing I had to deal with was the assumption that if I switched careers I would be making less money. So lets take a pop quiz, who makes more money?:
A - A computer programmer with 8 years experience
B - A BSN with 2 years experience.
The correct answer (at least in the area I live in, is B).
Then I had to think about where I was going to be personally, 10 years from now.
Now, 10 years from now, who will have had more opportunities to make people happy, to comfort the sick and the dying, and work in the career that is most beneficial to humanity as a whole:
A - Computer programmer
B - A nurse
(again, the correct answer is B)
Finally, I looked at the personal gratification for each career.
If I work my a$$ of this week as a programmer, I will have managed to create an application that makes a roadmap of our software archive that we use here at work. All of this will be done in the privacy of my tiny cubicle where I have little interaction with anyone.
If I had spent the week working my a$$ off as a nurse, I believe that I will most likely have been in contact with a lot more people, and would have had the opportunity to do something more satisfying than developing another application that in 2 years will be obsolete.
I cannot dramatically describe my role as a computer programmer. However, I could dramatically describe a nurse:
"A nurse is one who has chosen to take up the horrendous burden of helping others bear their pain. A nurse stands alone in the night, ever vigilant for the slightest change in the condition of those she has been charged with, ready to do whatever is necessary to relieve the pain of those who suffer. Tasks that more recognized men and women are loathe to even discuss, a nurse performs on a daily basis because it needs to be done, and the nurse, stronger than any other, has agreed to do it."