Should students be penalized due to Instructors Mistake ? - page 2

Yesterday students just found out that something was mis-keyed in the our first exam ( 6 weeks ago) so therefore some of us either lost or gained 1 point, and some people did not have any change. I... Read More

  1. by   luvbug080688
    At my school if a teacher errors in any way on the test and they catch it and correct it, they make sure it does not affect any body negatively. When grades are adjusted no one's grade will go down, they will either to up or stay the same.
  2. by   ~Mi Vida Loca~RN
    Quote from luvbug080688
    At my school if a teacher errors in any way on the test and they catch it and correct it, they make sure it does not affect any body negatively. When grades are adjusted no one's grade will go down, they will either to up or stay the same.

    That is how my teachers have always been, they will credit the ones that deserve it but they don't take away points. I have pointed out a few errors before on my exams and the teacher said no worries. They have told us if it's marked wrong and we got it right to bring it to their attention and they will correct it but if it's marked right when it's wrong to just consider yourself lucky.
  3. by   2BSure
    As for the taking such a long time for this grading error to come to light -- it is a pity but not a crime. From what I have read and it seems like many schools need to raise their game. These days students consider themselves customers paying for a commodity and that is not wrong per se. However, it is my experience that insisting on good customer service from an institution in which you are a student can often put you at odds with administration and instructors. It is unfortunate that these people not only can impact your career as a student but can sometimes have influence at places you want to work. I have had some nursing instructors who were so bad they took my breath away.

    It took me a long time before I learned to choose my battles and I still haven't got it right.

    I wish you luck.
  4. by   caliotter3
    If the students who got the wrong answer do not have a point subtracted, then the students who got the answer right should not have a point added. Everyone should be treated fairly.
  5. by   ♪♫ in my ♥
    Quote from caliotter3
    If the students who got the wrong answer do not have a point subtracted, then the students who got the answer right should not have a point added. Everyone should be treated fairly.
    Yes, everyone should be treated fairly.

    If they marked the correct answer then they should get the point; if they marked the wrong answer, they shouldn't.

    Pretty simple.
  6. by   caliotter3
    You can not change grades for one set of students and not change grades for the opposite set of students and claim that you are being fair.
  7. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from ♪♫ in my ♥
    If someone is on the borderline such that 1 point really makes the difference between passing the class and failing the class then I'd just as soon see them lose the unearned point and fail.
    Wow. I couldn't agree more.

    Quote from llg
    I read the original post wrong. Now I see that the grades HAVE been corrected and all students now have the grade they actually scored. .

    Wait, what? I misread the OP as well. Sooo, the students who lost the point, still lost the point? The scores are accurate?

    Are you freaking kidding me? These students are whining about not getting a free point? Puhleese...
  8. by   ♪♫ in my ♥
    Quote from caliotter3
    You can not change grades for one set of students and not change grades for the opposite set of students and claim that you are being fair.
    To be fair one must simply apply the correct answer to everybody. If the answer deemed correct by the teacher is [B] then anyone who pick [B] get the point; anyone who didn't, doesn't.

    Imminently fair.
  9. by   cardiacRN2006
    It seems the mistake was made 6 weeks ago when some people got a free point who didn't deserve it.

    The teachers found the mistake and fixed it.

    I think that's pretty fair!
  10. by   Jolie
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Are you freaking kidding me? These students are whining about not getting a free point? Puhleese...
    I can just see the scenario in my mind: A student comes into the final thinking that if s/he gets a 75 on the final, s/he will have just enough points to pass the course.

    The earlier test scores are corrected, and s/he now needs a 76 on the final to pass the course.

    The students gets a 75 on the final and complains that s/he failed the course by one point because the instructor unfairly took away a point.
  11. by   ~FutureNurse~
    I don't really think it us a huge deal--it is only one point. However, with that said, my teachers would not do this. We actually had this exact thing happen--while we were reviewing our old tests for finals. Our teacher said she would not be taking a point away from anyone this far into the game. I don't think it is unfair--why did it take so long though? Anywho--it is just a a point, so it really can't hurt THAT much.
  12. by   AOx1
    In response to the quote "It is not the students' fault, the instructor needs to take responsibility. It does not matter how many questions they missed over the weeks, they deserve to pass by that one point! I would sue the hell out of that school for that blunder..."

    So, even if a student was failing his or her other exams, it is still the instructor's fault that they don't pass by a point? I didn't realize it was suddenly my responsibility to pass every student, no matter how poorly they might perform. I thought my responsibility was to provide the best educational climate to help my students learn how to learn, to grow in their skills, and to turn out SAFE graduates that are prepared to practice. It is interesting to me how many hours I put in every week to do just this, yet if some of my students put in the same amount of time (70+ hours most weeks), they would not be in danger of failing. I often hear students talk about how much fun they had at the bar, how good the new Twilight series is, how much they enjoy relaxing and watching TV....and then ranting about how "student X" is a total nerd and never goes out and how they can't imagine how he/she gets all those As.....
    Every semester, I have a few student in danger of failing. I email them, send them to the retention program, ask them to come in an review their exams, etc. Yet out of those who you ask to come in, rarely does anyone show up for the extra help. Of course, when they fail, this is my fault too!

    Hint: instead of an entitlement attitude towards the extra point, students might be better served in seeking out the instructor for tips on success, not in trying to sue him or her. If I sued everyone who ever made a mistake, I would be a rich woman indeed! I hope you don't run into any patients with this attitude as a practicing nurse.

    It's interesting how many times the first thing you see in response to an instructor's mistake is "sue them!" and "how unfair and horrible instructors are" yet if I held the same standard up for my students, trying to destroy them for every mistake, nobody would ever graduate. It isn't fair for instructors to do this to students, and it isn't fair for students to engage in this behavior either. The street runs both ways. You can't complain about how awful it is that some instructors and practicing nurses engage in horizontal violence, and the come on a forum and perpetrate the same offense you are complaining about. We ALL need to contribute to a climate in which mistakes are reported and corrected vs. a "blame culture."
  13. by   Acosmo27
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    Wow. I couldn't agree more.




    Wait, what? I misread the OP as well. Sooo, the students who lost the point, still lost the point? The scores are accurate?

    Are you freaking kidding me? These students are whining about not getting a free point? Puhleese...

    I misread the original post as well... the scenario the OP is depicting is completely justified.. and FAIR.

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