Don't Blow the Curve !!!

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This is just a vent but, I'm sick of hearing this.

Like I'm supposed to intentionally start answering questions wrong just so other people can pass?

I'm a former anal A student who finally got used to getting B's in nursing school. Now that I'm in the final semester I've accepted the realities of testing which is: the teacher's aren't going to tell you everything you need to know, and you're not going to find it all in the assigned reading either.

So what did I do about it? I transcribe the lectures verbatum so I better understand how the teacher thinks. If I understand how the teacher thinks I may not know all the answers but, it helps me ... for lack of a better term ... "game" the test. And, of course, I do all of the reading.

I also do at least 200-400 NCLEX questions for each test to hopefully get the material they don't tell you about. And it helps me discipline myself for things like ... making sure I'm paying attention and reading the question right.

In other words ... I work my butt off.

The result is ... I've been doing fairly well with high B's and occassional A's. Normally this wouldn't be a big deal because there are other students who usually score higher than I do. But, apparently, I've been getting some of the highest grades and a lot of people are failing ...

Since the last exam is an NCLEX predictor and it's going to be curved, everybody's pressuring me not to blow it for them since they may not graduate.

Why don't these people just get to work? That's what I did.

Yes ... I know ... I shouldn't have told people my scores. But, quite frankly, I didn't think my scores were that great ... especially since I used to get straight A's before nursing school. Little did I know that many others were failing for the first time.

I only told a couple of friends but, apparently, word spread like wildfire.

My bad.

:typing

Geez I wish I could find 200-400 questions related to what we're learning and going to be tested on. For me... I'm lucky if I can 100 specific questions on the material.

What's your next test? If you tell me the subject, maybe I can point you to the sections I'm talking about.

:typing

Well my next test is a combo of ER/Psych.... It will be on

1 Family violence (which includes rape, child abuse elder abuse etc.) 8

2 Personality Disorders 5

3 Liver/Pancreas 17

4 Cognitive disorders- dementia, delirium, alzheimers 7

5 Gerontology 6

6 Burns 7

Thats how many questions are on each section. I looked up liver and pancrease in lippincotts and only got about 30 quesetions, about 10 questions on burns in saunders, no questions on gerontology, about 10 on family violence in lippincotts, about 40 on cognitive disorders in lippincotts, about 40 on personality disorders in lewis.

Specializes in home & public health, med-surg, hospice.

Well, I just don't think it's right for people to be graded or given credit based upon their own merit. It's just not fair!

I mean people derserve extra credit based upon opportunities that may have been lost to them during their developmental years in school. I mean, it's not their fault they never learned how to study, is it? Well...????

Furthermore, they could run nursing school like a union and give extra points for seniority vs. performance. Since I'm a returning (LVN), nontraditional (35 y/o) student pursuing my RN, I think that would be only fair! I mean, I can't be expected to memorize as much material as the younger students and really shouldn't be expected to put as much work into it either since I also have a family, outside job and a commute, you know?

Lizz, I just think you are really being SO UNFAIR and totally inconsiderate of your fellow students' needs and feelings!!!!!

Well my next test is a combo of ER/Psych.... It will be on

1 Family violence (which includes rape, child abuse elder abuse etc.) 8

2 Personality Disorders 5

3 Liver/Pancreas 17

4 Cognitive disorders- dementia, delirium, alzheimers 7

5 Gerontology 6

6 Burns 7

Thats how many questions are on each section. I looked up liver and pancrease in lippincotts and only got about 30 quesetions, about 10 questions on burns in saunders, no questions on gerontology, about 10 on family violence in lippincotts, about 40 on cognitive disorders in lippincotts, about 40 on personality disorders in lewis.

Are you looking at the books or the computer disks that come with the books, because I use the computer disks. We may also be talking about different disks because the same companies have many different NCLEX guides.

I just checked the Saunders comprehensive review computer disk and there were 6 burn questions, 10 if you count questions on inhalation injuries (which were included in our burn test) that could be found in just the first 20 questions in the integumentary section. With a 140 questions total, there's probably a lot more.

If you go to the GI section on that same Saunders disk, there were a bunch of hepatitis questions right away (9 out of the first 20 with 210 questions total). I just recently went through that section for our liver test and there were quite a few additional liver and pancreatitis questions also. I also use Saunder's Q&A Review ... a lot of the questions are the same as the other disk, but there is different stuff to be found in there also.

On the Lippincott 3500 disk (not other Lippincott disks because there's more than one) I found quite a few liver and pancreatitis questions also in the GI section. Not as many as Saunders but still, a fair number. Davis had a fair number of questions in the GI section also.

The Saunders, Mosby, Lippincott and Davis disks all have great stuff on psych and personality disorders with probably ... 800 questions between all four of them. There's a ton of questions for those. The Lippincott 3500 and Mosby disks even have dementia and delirium as well as other psych stuff broken down as separate sub categories.

Family violence and gerontology questions have been harder to find, especially since just about everything applies to gerontology in one way or another so that's scattered all over the place. Family violence tends to be scattered also so ... not as much luck finding questions in those categories, which happens sometimes.

I'm am NCLEX disk junkie so I have a lot of them. When I go through the disks, I do sometimes have to skip through a bunch of questions that don't directly apply to my tests but ... most of the time, you can find a lot of questions in the categories that apply.

Hope this helps.

:typing

Specializes in 5 yrs OR, ASU Pre-Op 2 yr. ER.
I really was just venting but ... maybe the moderators should just shut the thread down. I get enough of this schoolyard BS in class ...

Enough already. It just goes to show how childish people can be ... especially in nursing school. No matter what age they are ... it's just like kindergarten all over again.

The risk taken when posting a thread : a person does not always get the answers they want to read.

'Bye

Lizz,

Stick with it. Ignore all the fools in your class. I go through the same thing at school too. People in my class could care less about you untill they want an answer, or want you not to point out that the teacher has the wrong answer for a question. All they want is a free ride, do not give it to them. Sit back and watch them suffer as you earn good grades. :cool:

Since the last exam is an NCLEX predictor and it's going to be curved, everybody's pressuring me not to blow it for them since they may not graduate.

Hey lizz,

what kind of NCLEX predictor test is this? Is it like an ATI test? If so, there's no way you can "blow the curve".

The risk taken when posting a thread : a person does not always get the answers they want to read.

As always, thanks for pointing out the obvious Marie. :rolleyes:

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing with me.

I have a problem when people don't read the posts and accuse you of doing or saying things you didn't even do ... because they didn't bother to read what you posted earlier.

:typing

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

I fail to see how it's inconsiderate of others when it gets out that you've made a high grade. Why when I make a 100 can people not just be happy for me, say congratulations and keep their petty jealousy out of it? Why should I have to tiptoe around others and say things like "I passed" or "none of your business", "I did o.k." when I'm proud I'm inwardly jumping for joy that my hard work, and a little luck, paid off.

I know that those who didn't make a hundred may have worked 10 times harder than me, but how it is disrespectful and inconsiderate to them that I made a 100, and say so? How does that show a lack of humility IF I'M ASKED?? It's certainly not humble to go around bragging for the sake of bragging.

Sorry, but if you ask me how I did, then your going to get an honest answer, and if you don't like it and tell others and it gets blown out of proprotion by haters, I'm not going to own that.

I fail to see how it's inconsiderate of others when it gets out that you've made a high grade. Why when I make a 100 can people not just be happy for me, say congratulations and keep their petty jealousy out of it? Why should I have to tiptoe around others and say things like "I passed" or "none of your business", "I did o.k." when I'm proud I'm inwardly jumping for joy that my hard work, and a little luck, paid off.

I know that those who didn't make a hundred may have worked 10 times harder than me, but how it is disrespectful and inconsiderate to them that I made a 100, and say so? How does that show a lack of humility IF I'M ASKED?? It's certainly not humble to go around bragging for the sake of bragging.

Sorry, but if you ask me how I did, then your going to get an honest answer, and if you don't like it and tell others and it gets blown out of proprotion by haters, I'm not going to own that.

Exactly ...

Thank you Tweety.

:typing

Specializes in Med-Surg, Trauma, Ortho, Neuro, Cardiac.

Thread closed at the original posters request.

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