Disecting a cat-why? - page 3
In A&P1 we start disecting a cat this week. Four people to one cat.:eek: What is the point? I wish we could have a one on one with the cat. I'm taking my digital camera, so I can review at home. ... Read More
Dec 16, '02Occupation: RN (CTICU) Joined: Jan '01; Posts: 263A CAT ????? DAMNNN..... We had to assist with an autopsy each.......still have visions of that skull saw in my mind...and that was three years ago.
Dec 16, '02Occupation: Patient Safety Specialist Specialty: 13 year(s) of experience in Neuroscience ICU, CNRN, SCRN ; From: FL, US ; Joined: Feb '02; Posts: 183; Likes: 8I've got my A & P II final tomorrow night, and we didn't get to dissect anything! No facilities at my community college campus for any "wet" labs...so its been a bit disappointing.
In high school we dissected worms, frogs and nurse sharks (I grew up in South Florida)...that was very interesting. But since that was 30 years ago, the memory has sort of left me...
Several of my classmates have taken A & P before, and they all had a cadaver, but I guess that's pretty rare these days, especially at a community college. At least you got the chance to dissect something! I'm not a big cat fan, but I don't know how I'd feel about dissecting one...
Dec 17, '02Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 33I had the same A&P instructor as Student Sandra above---human dissection was GREAT!!!! What a privelage. Oh by the way---thanks to Sandra for all the great tutoring this past semester....and thanks for recommending this site!
Dec 17, '02Occupation: Full Time Student Joined: Nov '01; Posts: 394; Likes: 89originally posted by gonnabeanurse2
i had the same a&p instructor as student sandra above---human dissection was great!!!! what a privelage. oh by the way---thanks to sandra for all the great tutoring this past semester....and thanks for recommending this site!
Dec 17, '02Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 40The cats most likely come from the local animal shelter or possibly a local vet university...when a person donates their animal to a vet university for "research", they(the university) usually euthanize it and sell them to local colleges...that's also what happens when a kill shelter gets overrun w/animals....
Dec 17, '02Occupation: L&D RN Joined: Oct '02; Posts: 248; Likes: 17In my college A&P class we did humans, one of the only ones in the midwest that do, it was an awesome experience and I will NEVER ever forget some of the things I learned, i was fortunate enough to be on the disection team, we also did rats in class but we all had our own, I can't imagine learning anything with 4:1 ratio, the camera is a good idea, but better check to make sure it's ok to take pictures.
Dec 17, '02Occupation: Complaint resolution supervisor, stupid question department Joined: Nov '02; Posts: 236; Likes: 1We also had a 4:1 ratio. When someone in the group asked why cats, the instructor said that more cats were willing then humans. I think that was a joke. Strange instuctor. Anyhow, we named our cat "Socks". I got to do all the cuttin'. I don't really like cats so it was all the same to me when I was "volunteered" for the task at hand.
Dec 17, '02Occupation: RN, B.S.N. Specialty: 5 year(s) of experience in Rural Hospital (we do it all) ; Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 105; Likes: 6She was a rhesus monkey which I named Suzie. This was in a Human Anatomy course that I took before I returned to school for a nursing degree. I remember paying over $200 in lab fees and will admit that she was worth every dime. I'll never forget the day our monkeys arrived, all wrapped up in these thick plastic bags and much bigger in size than we had expected. We were receiving very graphic details from our instructor on how to handle and preserve our monkeys while disecting them over the next two months. After this, the instructor said, "OK, everybody open your bags and remove your monkeys." Hindsight tells me that this was that "golden moment" that our instructor undoudtedly anticipated every year. We heard a crash behind us and turned to see one student out cold on the floor and two others losing their lunch. What a scene, I wish you could have been there.
But then I also had a "golden moment" I'd like to share with you. The weekend before finals, we got to take our monkeys home with us to review their anatomy. You can imagine how Suzie looked after a complete dissection....not a pretty site. My roomates were not suppose to return until Monday AM, and I would have Suzie back in cold storage by then. My roomates were sisters and both were in the school of business, the sort that would scream their heads off at the sight of a mouse. I finished studying Suzie's parts about 2AM and managed to stuff her into our refridgerator before going to bed. But, as you may have guessed, they came back early that morning, just in time to make breakfast......I never heard such a commotion in all my life, I guess they must have woke up the entire campus before I could get down the stairs. They had pulled the bag out to see what was in it and Suzie just sort of fell apart on the kitchen floor. Boy, does that bring back some memories! I'm sorry, I just had to get that off my chest.
Dec 18, '02Joined: Dec '02; Posts: 4I took A&P at Tacoma Community College and we had a cadaver.. I thought all schools did till i went to Everett CC and heard about CATS!!!! Yikes :chuckle
Jan 27, '03Occupation: Registered Nurse Specialty: PACU ; Joined: Jan '03; Posts: 736; Likes: 99i have to do a cat dissection soon. is it hard to identify the organs, veins and muscles?
Jan 27, '03Occupation: Outpatient surgery Specialty: 3 year(s) of experience in Peds, Pre and post op ; Joined: Jan '03; Posts: 221; Likes: 2My Junior College didnt have human bodies because the school didnt have a cadver fridge (I guess you cant just store it next to the regular food huh??). Im not huge kitty fan (massive allergy) but our cat has this nasty expression on his face, like he had been beaten to death or somethin'. Oh well I named him Mr. Bigglesworth, laughed at the worms in his stomach and got an A
Jan 28, '03Occupation: Director of a psychiatric facility Joined: Aug '02; Posts: 168; Likes: 7We had cadavers when I took A&P. I don't see how you can learn the human body by disecting a cat.
Jan 28, '03Occupation: Vet Critical Care Technician Joined: Jul '02; Posts: 419; Likes: 2Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER
Seriously, 4:1 is a crappy kitty experience! Even in high school we had a 2:1! As Thendar suggested, volunteer to be the one doing the disecting. My experience has been that everyone would be more than happy to let you do it, and you'll get more up close and personal.
I loved disecting that cat! I hate cats!
I like cats but, yeah, the evil side kicks in... when I see that cat on the table I see every cat that has bit or scratched me.
We had to name our cats. My instructor commented that I'd picked "a rather scraggly one" so her name is "Scrag".
Vet A&P we had a big orange-tabby male, named it "Rigor Morris". :chuckle