woman dies in ER waiting room (article) - page 12

the first few paragraphs, click link for rest of story (too long to cut/paste) interesting. says she was in for abd pain 3x in 3 days,but never what they did for her test wise, or what they... Read More

  1. by   chuck1234
    Quote from cardiacRN2006
    She died from poor medical management from the Doctor who had just seen her 3 hours prior.
    She was only out in the waiting room for 45 minutes. In my ER (which again, is overrun by illegals), 45 minutes would be a dream. Try more like 6-8 hours...
    It depends....
    Poor management is only part of the problem.
    However, the poor judgment and the poor assessment skills of the nurse who was taken care of Ms. Rodriquez is really the "cause of death."
    Think about it....she came in and c/o of abd pain, then she collapsed on the floor. Don't you think this is a big red flag. The good thing is...that nurse has already been resigned, so she is not going to hurt another person.
    What bothers me the most is Ms. Rodriquez had to suffer so much before the end of her life. This is very unacceptable. If you do that to a dog in New York City, you might have to go to jail for it.
    Rest in peace...Ms. Rodriquez.
  2. by   cardiacRN2006
    Quote from chuck1234
    However, the poor judgment and the poor assessment skills of the nurse who was taken care of Ms. Rodriquez is really the "cause of death.

    Lol, so it's the poor assessment of the nurse, not the MD that is the 'cause of death'?
  3. by   TazziRN
    Quote from chuck1234
    Nobody is legal then...
    Can we go back to the table and discuss how Ms. Rodriquez died...
    You're the one who took this in another direction.

    Getting back to the topic, the nurse wasn't the only one at fault. Yes, she should have reassessed the pt, but the doc missed a perforation.
  4. by   CuriousMe
    I'm not a nurse yet, I don't pretend to have any experience at all.

    I'm curious though chuck1234, I see you have Med/Surg and ICU experience. Have you had an oportunity to spend any time working in the ER? If so, how much time did you have an oportunity for?

  5. by   TazziRN
    Cathie, I've worked ER for 19 years, and Chuck is right about one thing: the woman should have been assessed.
  6. by   cardiacRN2006
    You're right Tazzi..

    But why is the nurse taking all the responsibility and the MD's none of it?
    Last edit by cardiacRN2006 on May 24, '07
  7. by   TazziRN
    It's not the collapsing on the floor that was the problem, it was the triage nurse telling her that she had just been seen, there's nothing more to be done. She was never reassessed.
  8. by   cardiacRN2006
    But do we really know that? Or did she die before it was her turn in line?
  9. by   TazziRN
    First page of the article says that's what the nurse told her.
  10. by   CuriousMe
    Thanks Tazzi,

    I'm just trying to find some context for the varied opinions and make sure I treat each with the respect they deserve.

    Back to studying for my A&P final :P

  11. by   cardiacRN2006
    It says that the nurse said that there's nothing they can do for her. She didn't say to go away, and didn't say that she wasn't going to see her. She probably just got bumped to the bottom of the list.

    BUT, we don't really know.
  12. by   TazziRN
    It's not the nurse's job to tell a pt "You've already been seen and there's nothing more we can do." That is a blatant violation of EMTALA because a pt could very easily take that as refusal of services.
  13. by   cardiacRN2006
    Fair enough. I can see a pt thinking that.