What Is the Problem With These Nurses?

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I've always thought the "nurses eating their young" phenomenon was somewhat of a misnomer, since we're not their children and I know students can impose a lot of burdens on nurses. But, when you're pretty functional and helping out with most of the work, and some nurses still beat you down to a pulp, I just don't get it.

What's the point of being so mean? I'm running my butt off all day, I'm giving all of the meds, doing all of the charting, aide work, etc. for most of the patients. Yet, no matter how hard I work, there's still a constant barrage of criticism ...

Of course, I make mistakes and I definitely need to improve in a lot of areas. No question about it. Nevertheless, I am not a total novice and, despite my shortcomings, I do know I'm making their day a hellava lot easier.

But ... I'm only human, and I do tend to make even more mistakes when I know I'm going to get slammed no matter what I do. After awhile, no matter how tough you are, it's difficult to concentrate and do everything the nurse wants when you know she's hostile and looking for any opportunity to jump on your case ... even when you do things right.

I actually don't need nor do I expect praise or reassurance but, like a lot of people, I don't tend do well when I getting slammed all the time either.

I can't wait to get out of there and let them get back to doing all the work. Thankfully, my days of slave labor will soon be over. I hope they got their jollies because if this is how they make themselves feel better or whatever it is ... good riddance.

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It's not just hostile nurses in clinicals. I have 2 very hostile instructors. I can tolerate the perfection-make you whither with her stare type-when you have screwed up. These two instructors pick out the weak ones with no confidence and knock them down without picking them up later.

Its just another symptom of the nursing shortage. My mom is also in nursing school and she says she is pretty sure they recruited for her instructors at the mental hospital.

Are you unbalanced? Can't work as a hospital nurse? Then, try teaching and eat your young!

OMGosh! One of my med surg instructors did come from a mental hospital:bugeyes: And there were a few complaints when I was there that she was bullying students.

Specializes in peds, OB/L&D, ER and peds ER.

Hi Guys!---My experience in over 30 years has been that the more rarefied the specialty-nursing one is doing, the tougher they come. NICU, CCU, ER for example, vs. regular med-surg wards, general peds---you get the picture. Floating to general units it seems the nurses are so grateful for some help they act like human beings--generally; and I've worked all over the country. The new guy on the block in the more critical care areas is at their mercy. I think that's for a number of reasons. They'll accept you when you "proove" yourself, but they won't loose any sleep over who is going to teach you. If you don't adopt the attitude towards patients, i.e. in ER I ran into this frequently, you quickly become outcast. One ER in NY state I worked nights in was so prejudiced toward blacks, native American indians [sadly nearly always inebriated,] and anyone on Medicaid, that it was so toxic to me I began running 5 hr. long episodes of bigeminy and tri. That did it. Life's too short to spend it with people who don't value others. There ARE other jobs/places to nurse. I tried a number of kinds of nursing I never dreamed I'd have done to find something compatible with my soul. Believe me when I say that there are fantastic people to work with in our profession. That said, there are the same volume of great ones and stinkers in many other lines of work. One of my sisters, a special ed teacher burned out in the public school system in under a year. No one would tell her the diagnoses of her sp. ed students and she wasn't allowed to see their records! Schizophrenia, bipolar, FAS, etc. After she left they hired two teachers to take her place. Now she tutors one-to-one out of her home and her sanity If you are a spiritually-oriented person, read "The Secret" by R. Byrne. It'll change everything about your life for the better. You'll learn how to pray for "thine enemies" and how to keep your perspective. There's a DVD if reading isn't how you want to approach this. I've studied Florence Nightengale's life and she was up against this problem, too! Being English, dealing w/ Irish Catholic nuns who thought they kknew it all and didn't care for her approaches to patient care---and Flo trained at Kaiserswoth Hospital in Germany under the Deaconesses. not in Great Britain so THAT made her suspect to them. Shehad a number of volunteers who truely had no idea what they were in for in the Crimea. When all became clear, however, there was dissention among the ranks. She was a hell of an administrator and teacher; God love her. So, as I've said before, some things never change; guess that's human nature!

Wow... just wow..

Hi Guys!---My experience in over 30 years has been that the more rarefied the specialty-nursing one is doing, the tougher they come. NICU, CCU, ER for example, vs. regular med-surg wards, general peds---you get the picture. Floating to general units it seems the nurses are so grateful for some help they act like human beings--generally; and I've worked all over the country. The new guy on the block in the more critical care areas is at their mercy. I think that's for a number of reasons. They'll accept you when you "proove" yourself, but they won't loose any sleep over who is going to teach you. If you don't adopt the attitude towards patients, i.e. in ER I ran into this frequently, you quickly become outcast. One ER in NY state I worked nights in was so prejudiced toward blacks, native American indians [sadly nearly always inebriated,] and anyone on Medicaid, that it was so toxic to me I began running 5 hr. long episodes of bigeminy and tri. That did it. Life's too short to spend it with people who don't value others. There ARE other jobs/places to nurse. I tried a number of kinds of nursing I never dreamed I'd have done to find something compatible with my soul. Believe me when I say that there are fantastic people to work with in our profession. That said, there are the same volume of great ones and stinkers in many other lines of work. One of my sisters, a special ed teacher burned out in the public school system in under a year. No one would tell her the diagnoses of her sp. ed students and she wasn't allowed to see their records! Schizophrenia, bipolar, FAS, etc. After she left they hired two teachers to take her place. Now she tutors one-to-one out of her home and her sanity If you are a spiritually-oriented person, read "The Secret" by R. Byrne. It'll change everything about your life for the better. You'll learn how to pray for "thine enemies" and how to keep your perspective. There's a DVD if reading isn't how you want to approach this. I've studied Florence Nightengale's life and she was up against this problem, too! Being English, dealing w/ Irish Catholic nuns who thought they kknew it all and didn't care for her approaches to patient care---and Flo trained at Kaiserswoth Hospital in Germany under the Deaconesses. not in Great Britain so THAT made her suspect to them. Shehad a number of volunteers who truely had no idea what they were in for in the Crimea. When all became clear, however, there was dissention among the ranks. She was a hell of an administrator and teacher; God love her. So, as I've said before, some things never change; guess that's human nature!

must be vary state by state or something - i have a special needs son adn was required to not only tell them his problems but sign releases to docs so they could get info when needed and correlate treatment with the docs - sad that they wouldnt tell her- doesnt seem fair to her or the child - cant treat right if you dont know what your treating.

I understand, Lizz. But no matter how many pts. you have it is extra effort to train because you can't just do the job, you have to stop and explain what you are doing and why; it slows you down.

But that's just it: she wasn't doing most of the job, I was. In order to pass preceptorship, I had to do 80 percent of the work for all five patients and, believe me ... I was.

Normally, I would agree if I was a first semester student. But, I was a pretty functional fourth semester student. I was running all day and that's fine but ... don't tell me this was tough duty for my preceptor.

When I was there my preceptor was reading magazines, watching soap operas in the nurses' lounge and chatting shopping with her friends all day. Why? Because I was, in fact, doing most of the work. She didn't have to watch me or do much of anything.

Having to stop reading a magazine to give me occassional instruction wasn't that much of a hardship in this particular case.

The only time she really got busy was when we were slammed with a bunch of admits and discharges but, that didn't happen very often.

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Specializes in Cardiac, ER.

It does sound as if this nurse might have a bit of an attitude problem,..you will find lazy workers everywhere! To her defense however,..if I'm precepting a student,.even a fourth semseter,..I have to sign off on everything,...assessments, drsg changes, I/O's, etc, everything except meds which the instructor is required to sign. This means I have to do my own assessment of the pt,.see the drsg change or at least look to see that it was done, if pain meds are given I must do my own reassessment of pain, I have to sing off on all orders and make sure they were done etc. So not only am I trying to teach, but often times I am repeating the same care the student is given,..if something is over looked, doesn't get done, isn't done correctly etc,.I am the one responsible,...I'm not saying that is an excuse for being rude or short tempered w/a student,..I enjoy precepting most of the time,...but there might be more going on than you are aware of while you're busy doing your tasks.

This means I have to do my own assessment of the pt,.see the drsg change or at least look to see that it was done, if pain meds are given I must do my own reassessment of pain, I have to sing off on all orders and make sure they were done etc. So not only am I trying to teach, but often times I am repeating the same care the student is given

Well ... she signed off on the paperwork but, she didn't do any assessments, check wound care or anything like that. Quite frankly, she doesn't even bother to bring a stethoscope to work. I guess she has acute hearing ability where she can listen to breath and heart sounds without it.

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Specializes in Cardiac, ER.
Well ... she signed off on the paperwork but, she didn't do any assessments, check wound care or anything like that. Quite frankly, she doesn't even bother to bring a stethoscope to work. I guess she has acute hearing ability where she can listen to breath and heart sounds without it.

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Hang in there Lizz,..it will get better!!!

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Hang in there Lizz,..it will get better!!!

Oh, it's done now ... thank god. I was just responding to posts on the thread.

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Hi !!! I'm new to this site:welcome:

So I have had similar experiences as previously posted. I graduated one year ago with my RN and then worked in L&D at a high acuity facility for one year, now i've transfered to a lower acuity facility and have just completed orientation. I feel like i've made a huge mistake and I now realize how much better it was at my first hospital. For instance, one of the six nurses that oriented me in one month told me that I was stepping on peoples toes! and pissing a lot of people off, Now I realize that I do not know everything since I am new to nursing, but a year at the high acuity facility is equal to two years anywhere else, because of the volume and high risk patients we cared for. So needless to say I know whate I'm doing. I was made to feel so stupid and incompetent!!! I am so sick of this mentality of nurses eating there young and making new RNs to feel that they have no idea what they are doing. Plus the fact that this new unit is soooo incredibly short staffed its scary and unsafe so they should be treating me like gold if they don't want to loose me. My husband tells me that I need to stick it out, and just go to work and do my job and not complain so once I am there longer then I will have more senority and not be treated so poorly. The sad thing is that I know I am a good nurse because my patients can tell I'm sincerely caring for them, also all the doctors I have worked with will always say to there patients in front of me what good hands they are in. I am confident in patient care but for my new fellow nurses I am loosing faith. This is a sad epidemic in this profession and no wonder we are short on nurses, who wants to be treated like crap?!

Thanks for reading

My husband tells me that I need to stick it out, and just go to work and do my job and not complain so once I am there longer then I will have more senority and not be treated so poorly.

This is a sad epidemic in this profession and no wonder we are short on nurses, who wants to be treated like crap?!

Yeah, I kept telling myself the same thing also but, for me at least, it was easier said than done. I hadn't been in a toxic environment like this before (except when I worked as an aide at another hospital). I just kept saying, tough it out ... and I did but ...

It is so difficult to concentrate on your work when you're constantly attacked and treated like crap. It's a lot harder than I thought it would be. I did adjust and improve but ... I know I would have done a lot better elsewhere.

I guess I have to not only learn how to be a new nurse but, also, how to deal with hostile environments that exist for no particular reason at all.

If I'm going to be treated like crap, I want to be paid A LOT of money, at least. ;)

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Specializes in Day Surgery/Infusion/ED.
But that's just it: she wasn't doing most of the job, I was. In order to pass preceptorship, I had to do 80 percent of the work for all five patients and, believe me ... I was.

Normally, I would agree if I was a first semester student. But, I was a pretty functional fourth semester student. I was running all day and that's fine but ... don't tell me this was tough duty for my preceptor.

When I was there my preceptor was reading magazines, watching soap operas in the nurses' lounge and chatting shopping with her friends all day. Why? Because I was, in fact, doing most of the work. She didn't have to watch me or do much of anything.

Having to stop reading a magazine to give me occassional instruction wasn't that much of a hardship in this particular case.

The only time she really got busy was when we were slammed with a bunch of admits and discharges but, that didn't happen very often.

:typing

Sigh...you don't know what you don't know.

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