We tell the student nurses to run for their lives."

sprtbikegrlsv65 · Jan 7, 2004

that was soooo exact...i'm a ESFP

Extrovert 68.57%-Introvert 31.43%

Sensing 58.06%-Intuitive 41.49%

Feeling 80.65%-Thinking 19.35%

Perceiving 60.55%-Judging 39.47%

Basically it said that i was an "Entertainer" some one who radiates warmth, and optimism, smooth, witty, charming, clever, fun to be with, and generous...they only acctount for 8.5% of the population...cool!

happystudent, RN · Jan 7, 2004

I took the similar minds test

I am as follows:

ESFP

Entertainer, radiates attractive warmth and optimisim, smooth , witty, charming, clever, fun to be with and very generous

(hmmm. I'll have to see if my husband agrees with that...lol)

E (extroverted) 77.22%

S (sensing) 70%

F (feeling) 51.72%

P (perceiving) 65.79%

I definately agree that I am an extrovert!!

Oh yeah!:roll

happystudent, RN · Jan 7, 2004

sportbikrgrl.......I see some similarities............hmmmmmmm;)

hbscott · Jan 7, 2004

I see that this thread has taken many interesting turns. Seems like we have covered a lot here. Should develop a course and call it:

:)

*I also see that this thread has 100 posts. Seems to me we have touched on something fairly relevant.

-HBS

morr4336 · Jan 7, 2004

There seems to be a lot of negativity in the nursing profession! From what I have heard, the work is hard, respect lacking, and the pay low. I will be a student nurse soon, and have read all of the negative threads on this, and many other sites. I have also heard from plenty of nurses who like the profession. This has been a good education for me, as I can say that my eyes are wide open. The rose colored glasses have been ripped off, but I am still eager to gain entrance into the profession of my choice.

hbscott · Jan 7, 2004

Originally posted by morr4336
The rose colored glasses have been ripped off, but I am still eager to gain entrance into the profession of my choice.

That is a very good attitude. I might suggest the following link for some professional nursing "reality shock" intervention:

http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/dept/nursing/preceptors/realityshock.html

-HBS

anney1981 · Jan 20, 2004

You know... Statistics are nothing but a bunch of numbers. Depending on who put those stats out, they could be bent to the statisticians own opinions. Unless you've taken stats classes in detail, you can't really know if the stats are accurate. Nursing is a occupation based on the love of helping people. I'm an EMT-Basic and I'm furthering my education by getting my RN and I look forward to all of the work expected of me b/c I know that it will have great rewards.

TinyNurse, RN · Jan 20, 2004

As a new nurse, just graduated in June, yes the work is hard, but no more hard than waiting tables. I only have to use my brain a whole lot more.

I love the ER, I love nursing, I love taking care of my patients, and talking to their families.

I've been an RN almost 6 months now, and I love nursing. Of course there are days when i'm mad, and go home more tired than other days, but, all in all, I love my job as an RN. xo Jen

pogiboy · Jan 21, 2004

Thank you all. I need you. a lot.

[won't see me posting here much. not a nurse. am a chronic LTC patient, in and out of the hosp. the nurses know be by name by now and breathe a sigh of relief when they roll me in cause they know at least i will be nice]

cannoli · Jan 21, 2004

Originally posted by lizz
The most frustrating thing about all of this is, everybody tells you how bad it's going to be once you get out nursing school. But no one points to any real alternatives besides nursing. They just want to complain about it.

If nursing is so bad and so horrible, OK, I got it. I believe you. I do take you seriously. I'm not blind.

BUT, don't just tell me to run. Tell me about a career that you know for a fact is better. And I mean, FOR A FACT, don't just guess at it. I'm not independently wealthy. I have to work. What else am I supposed to do?

I've worked in lots of jobs, and they've all had their horrible elements. And now, even though we're supposed to be pulling out of recession, they're calling it a jobless recovery. A lousy nursing job with decent pay is still better than no job at all.

Everytime I ask this question, and try to take it to the next level, hardly anybody responds. My guess is people either don't know and haven't worked in anything else, but just want to relentlessly complain about it. Or, they have worked elsewhere and know, like I do, how bad other jobs can be.

Quit telling me to run, and give me some viable alternatives. And if you don't have any, then SHUT UP!!! Because it's really not fair to tell me to get out when, more than likely, there's no where else to go. We all have to make a living somehow and it's a really lousy job market out there.

(This post isn't directed at you Hugh (hbscott), since you are one of only two people who have ever been helpful on this question in the past. This post is meant to express my frustration with the article and the board in general, since this topic comes up time and time again with no real answers or alternatives mentioned.)

I'm still trying to figure out the answer to that question. If I had something else that I could do I would be doing it. If you find an answer let me know.

mattsmom81 · Jan 22, 2004

Originally posted by morr4336
This has been a good education for me, as I can say that my eyes are wide open. The rose colored glasses have been ripped off, but I am still eager to gain entrance into the profession of my choice.

Most of us cannot live with ourselves if we allow a future nurse to enter our ranks unwarned. That is why we are so vocal about the problems we encounter in our profession. Best wishes for a rewarding career...nursing does have its rewards! I try to take the good with the bad, and search for reward in my work, .....but if 'I knew then what I know now' I would honestly not have chosen nursing. I could not in good faith advise my daughter or son to become a nurse.

Now I'm old, have invested 27 yrs in it and too tired to start over..LOL....so I do the best I can, work part time and take things day by day. But...it is rough...and getting more 'customer service' oriented daily. The Burger King mentality of today's 'customer' is draining me....even in critical care patient and family expectations are unbelievable now...I am pulled in too many directions and every person and dept seems to think they are the nurses' boss... That coupled with the lack of respect is most discouraging for many of us. We are as a whole a great bunch of good hearted people who go in and try to do our best in less than optimal conditions, with little support from administration.

Perhaps this next generation of nurses will be the one to bring nurses together to promote positive change...I wish you all the best in your chosen career! When I was a young nurse I did not understand the sadness and frustration in older nurses' faces...but it did not take me long to figure out why.

Sinead375 · Jan 22, 2004

Recently while interviewing in the Bay Area here in sunny California I have received offers of $35.00 per hour for CICU/MSICU new grad trainging program.

Other Hospitals told me because I have an interim permit at the moment they would not offer me an ICU training post, instead they (Southern CA) offered me a med/surg post for 1 year and then their ICU training course. I wonder is this because they have not met their Med Surg ratios?

Certain hopsitals won't even interview interim permitees for their new grad training programs. Do some hospitals generally not employ nurses with interim permits which makes me wonder why issue interim permits then?

I am considering two offers at the moment from two of the best hospitals in the area one is offering med/surg the other is offering an ICU training program.

Why the discrepancy?? why do some hospitals not employ interim permitees (even though their website says otherwise) and other hospital will gladly accept an interim permitee into the heart of their ICU?

Any thoughts/experiences welcome!

Also is it common for new grads to go straight into an ICU setting? Anyone in the Bay Area that I could exchange emails on the subject of choosing one of two great hospitals?

Thanks Sinead