Was I right? or was I wrong? Confused?

  1. tonight, was the first time in 7 days i went out. i was asked by a friend, and a few of the local police if i wanted to come up to a local tavern and play darts with them.
    well the night turned out to be much worse than what i expected. there were two guys up there (long story, but found out at the end of the night through friends in the pd they were brothers, and had mutliple warrants out for their arrest).
    they were drunk, and beligerent! they were saying rude obscene stuff to others..which is tolerable. then they started to say stuff to the bartender (a friend of mine). he told them to leave, and that they were intoxicated and would not be served anymore. they flew off the handle and started yelling at my friend (who definately could not handle them). they called him..............well i am not even going there. they then started to climb over the bar, to come after him, for asking them to leave. i walked over and said, "listen there's no reason for this, maybe you guys should leave before it gets bad and/or the police come.
    in turn the two of them, one my size or slightly smaller,a nd the other much bigger and stronger than i, came after me. my one friend there already ( a local officer) is not that big, and personally didn't stand a chance.
    i got drilled, left and right....others came to help...but the big guy was too much. too big, too strong, too violent for anybody there. i tried to stop him, by holding him in check. however, he lifted me up in the air without a problem, threw me down, hit again repeatedly. i had oppurtunities to put him down for the count. however, i did nothing because i really didn't want to hurt him or anybody. so i took the continued beating, while others tried to help without success. then the big dude started with; "i am gonna get my piece and take everybody in this place out."
    i just kept waiting for the rest of the police department to arrive, and did nothing except take it. i don't know why? i just could not bring myself to hit them back.
    the police came, and my friends on the department asked why i didn't put them out, or retaliate?
    i guess, i don't have it in me to hurt anyone. figured, better one person takes it all.....who can take it...than let them go off on multiple people?

    right now, i hurt bad, i'm upset, i feel foggy?, i look like a beat up cripple...and feel like crying?

    i need some honest opinions here?

    here are the things i thought of......... and didn't know where else to put them but in the poll?

    me :stone

    Last edit by CEN35 on Nov 22, '02
  2. Poll: What should I have done?

    • Stayed out of it, and let them near kill someone?

      11.32% 6
    • Taken them out while I had the chance?

      67.92% 36
    • Just tkane a beating to protect the weak and distract them like I did?

      20.75% 11
    53 Votes
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  4. by   anitame
    Good lord! Have you had a bad week or what? Maybe you did the right thing, it obviously felt like the right decision to you at the time. I wish you had taken the a-hole out though. Sounds like he needs to be taken down a notch or two. I'm sorry it took so long for the police to arrive and I hope you're ok.
  5. by   CEN35
    thanks.......like i said, i could have in a heartbeat, but couldn't bring myself to do it........... guess the word whimp has some value here.....
  6. by   anitame
    Or maybe you prefer to fix people up instead of mess them up. And I don't think that's a bad thing.
  7. by   suzannasue
    HOLY COW, Rick!!!!!!!
    Get the word "wimp" outta your mind...seems to me a wimp would have cut and run...you took a beating, all the while keeping those dastardly brothers occupied, while the police were summoned... yeah, you COULD HAVE taken them out, but in our legal system, who's to say the brothers would not pursue assault and battery charges against you ???? You are a healer, not a hurter...you were defending not only yourself but your friends also, preventing harm from coming their way...
    Hope you sought medical attention...have taken my share (and someone else's) of beatings and can really identify with your pain and feelings...sending you healing thoughts and cyber smoochies for your "owies" :kiss

    P.S. Wish I had been there...seems to me, a cue stick to their craniums was called for...or other body parts such as gonads...
    take care, dude...
  8. by   CraftyLPN
    I am not going to vote because it's not what you shold have done that's important...it's what you did...I hope you are ok:kiss :kiss
  9. by   CEN35
    well i went up to the pd this am, to finish the rest of the paperwork. they went after 7 people in all there, and 5 inlcuding myself had filled out the paperwork to have them charged.
    turns out, one had 3-4 dwi's already, and the other had 5 and was driving under suspension. also add to the list of their past contributions to society, assault and battery, theft, and rape.
    a real couple of winners. oh well..........looking at the bright side now...........it's gonna cost each of them $250,000 to get out of jail i was told.

  10. by   Sleepyeyes
    I think you were just thinking like I think:

    Better to be the victim than the bully. What you did, Rick, took an immense amount of guts. I respect that a lot more than I do the other guys.
    It's a lot harder nowadays to just do the right thing. Glad there are still some people out there who do.
  11. by   l.rae
    Rick, l think you should trust that your instincts were right and not question yourself...if you had fought back, would that have created some kind of loop hole and maybe they could have made bale orsomething...know what l mean?...things happen for a reason and l believe when we have a gut feeling to do something, we are right....doesn't matter what others think...glad you are ok friend......take care......LR
  12. by   NurseDennie
    Sweetie, you got beat up - of COURSE you're confused. Of COURSE you're second-guessing yourself!!!

    Take a couple of days at least and sleep a lot more than you regularly do. Get a relaxation massage. Stay away from alcohol, but take in anything else that's going to relax you and make you feel better.

    You're a big guy and I've seen your picture - you can obviously take care of yourself if you want/need to. Who knows how that would have worked out if you'd done any one thing differently from what you did? No way to know! It sounds to me like the overall situation turned out for the best - bad guys in jail, etc.

    You'd undoubtedly still have been hurt if you'd taken any other action, and what might have happened with the bad guys?

    I don't have an opinion. I guess I should have stuck with the thought that it's natural for you to be second-guessing yourself.

    Take care of your body and take care of your mind/heart.


  13. by   researchrabbit
    Rick, take good care of yourself! You did what you thought was right. That's all any of us can do.
  14. by   semstr
    You did enough now didn't you? You came to help your friend the barkeeper and you managed to do that.
    Sorry, you got beaten up, but in my opinion your decision was very wise!
    Hope the hurting is less today!
    Take care, Renee
  15. by   sjoe
    "I had oppurtunities to put him down for the count. However, I did nothing because I really didn't want to hurt him or anybody. So I took the continued beating, while others tried to help without success. "

    You've been WAY over-socialized.

    Now you need to:

    1) get your wounds tended,

    2) after they have been found criminally guilty, initiate a civil suit against them for every dime they might ever make (or steal),

    3) rethink how important, or unimportant, your own health and well-being are to you in comparison to the health and well-being of dirtbags like these,

    4) take some useful martial arts training (most of which is attitude, not simply skills).

    5) Next time either stay out of it or kick butt and do your very best to give people like this a very LONG TERM lesson. You need to get your values and priorities straight BEFORE the next event occurs.