Terror in the OR- please advise !!! - page 2

Help, we as RN's are scared!! I work in a small rural hospital and our anesthesia doc falls asleep all the time (during cases.) We've reported it to administration..and he gets slaps on his... Read More

  1. by   jd494
    We've actually reported it all the way up the chain;from Risk Mngt to CCO, CEO to Medical Board, who welcomed him back after 30 days(stating....well he does pay his dues...)
    We agree with all of you as far as telling them how horrible our concerns are, still to no avail. Can we be sued if something happens (God forbid)in the meantime before calling? Who do we call? The state or the medical board?
  2. by   gr8rnpjt
    this is dangerous. He may be using, or if an older gentleman, he just may be getting old and tired. It may be time for him to retire. Have any of you spoken to him directly?
  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    The local newspaper's been pretty good about lighting a fire under our problems lol.
  4. by   santhony44
    Document your concerns, where you've been with them, and what response you get. Keep this at home! Everyone who has been a part of this effort needs to keep copies of everything.

    If something bad does happen, you are covered- and everyone else can't claim ignorance ("the nurses never told us this was a problem...").

    The hospital and other doctors are putting themselves at a lot of risk!
  5. by   santhony44
    Quote from gr8rnpjt
    this is dangerous. He may be using, or if an older gentleman, he just may be getting old and tired. It may be time for him to retire. Have any of you spoken to him directly?
    For that matter, he could have medical issues himself- high or low blood sugar, narcolepsy, sleep apnea, etc. He needs to do himself, as well as everyone else, a favor and see if there are things he needs to be treated for.
  6. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Or if it's anyhing like our docs, they were on call all night and up all night.
  7. by   PDXSN
    Well I always find that putting an argument in a way that can be fully understood is always effective. That is argue the matter from the point of view of money. If sleeping beauty kills someone or severely hurts someone then the hospital will be sued (costing money), the press will get a hold of the story and business will probably decline (costing money). Sometimes points like these need to be approached from managements view. Take what makes them tick or gets them excited and use it to argue your point.
    And by all means keep good records of your complaint process outside of the hospital.
  8. by   jd494
    Not an old timer, and yes spoken to many times.He is able to hide behind the "Grand CLOAK of the MD Big BOYS CLUB... "He and no one else at high levels seems to care.....what is wrong with these people????
  9. by   MedSurgeMess
    I'd contact the state medical board with all proof. You can do it anonymously. I would think that you could be sued right along with him. If you can get sued for simply being on the floor when another nurse has issues that results in a suit, then believe me, the blood-sucking lawyers would probably find a reason to come after you too. Go to the state ASAP since you have already pursued it through your facility. Good luck, I work in a small facility and see how sometimes the good ol' boy system works....
  10. by   BSNtobe2009
    Not to mention the surgeon that is in the OR with him will probably be held just as liable. If I was a surgeon, I would refuse to work with the guy.

    I can see the papers now, "Patient dies at area hospital...Anesthesiologist falls asleep during surgery.....previous complaints reported for months by nurses were ignored by hospital administration and licensing board...."

    Yeah, some lawyer is going to have a field day with that one.
  11. by   buildingmyfaith57
    o man talking about a huge lawsuit for this hospital. if anything were to go wrong.
  12. by   canoehead
    Make sure you have copies of WRITTEN notification to everyone you can think of to tell in your hospital, and their replies before you go outside the hospital. Your jobs and public reputations will be on the line when you go further with this- and you need to, definitely. Notify the doc in question too about your concerns, in wrting, and that you will keep going up the chain of command until the situation is remedied.

    I love the picture taking idea, but not at the expense of your jobs if there is a policy against it.

    Then notification of external quality assurance groups like the medical board, JCAHO, etc. Make sure you do this as a group- it's harder to fire a group than one rabble rouser.

    Then, and only then, to the media, with documentation that you have done everything in your power to fix it internally.