Smokers - page 5
Just wondering if anyone knows why so many of us nurses smoke??? Couldn't be the STRESS could it?? At all of the places I've worked, almost all the nurses smoked, including me. Seems kind of odd... Read More
Feb 6, '02Me again, Vicki RN. Not to be annoying , but if I am don't read this then. My hubby works on chimmneys and towers and things. Any way my point is a kodak camera company spews out more air pollution then if every person in that city smoked. I live near a oil company and peoples roofs are so black from the soot it deposits that it is disgusting. So many things are bad for us. How about all the nasty preservatives in foods to keep it "fresh". I could go on and on. Smoking is bad for me. That I know but so is stress that causes someone to have a heart attack. So is eating to many fatty fried foods that clog your arteries. So is McDonalds food, might not kill ya but sure doesn't do the body good.... on and on and on...
Feb 6, '02I guess I just don't understand the mentality of smoking. Why would an otherwise rational, intellegent person inhale toxic/carcinogenic chemicals in to their bodys? They know that it is detrimental to their health and the health of those around them. We recently admitted of 39 year old smoker with chest pain. She had a double CABG at age 37. She continues to smoke. Does she not care or is she in denial. I don't know and I certainly will never understand, especially since she has a 9 year old son who I am sure she would like to see growup. I don't buy the comeback that poor eating habits are just as bad as smoking. By eating poorly, you are only hurting yourself. The smoke you're blowing is hurting everyone around you.
Feb 7, '02I guess I don't understand the mentality of petroleum burners. They all know that sitting in a shiny metal and plastic box is bad for them, especially when they are in traffic and their adrenal glands are squirting because they fear being late, or just don't like being stuck in a situation that is completely out of their control. But they drive anyway. People are fat and over-fed, yet they still sit, day in and day out, in their huge SUV's and spew all kinds of substances in the air we breath. I hate to ride my bicycle in the rain because I see all the psychedelic swirls of petroleum dropped by the cars in the puddles and ask, "why don't they stop", "can't they see that all this pollution is destroying everything alive" Don't they know the smoke and burnt petroleum products are hurting everyone around them, especially me, because I am huffing and puffing O2 and CO2 mixed with all the toxic/carcinogenic chemicals in to my body. I don't know and I certainly will never understand how automobiles rule the lives of so many, while they have only been around for 60-70 years or so. If 50% of Americans said NO!, we are not gonna drive any more, we're not gonna buy any more cars or gasoline, we're gonna stop, I tell you, this world would be a better place. But, they are gonna drive anyway, despite all the evidence which shows how destructive automobile addiction is.
Feb 7, '02I don't smoke. But, I don't care if you'll smokers do. Its you'lls choice. Everyone knows the risks, etc, etc. I know the risks of eating fatty foods and drinking, not exercizing, but I do them anyway.
Our hospital campus(don't know whoooooo thinks these things up), but will be smoke free in counting 17 weeks. We have a smoking area in back of hospital outside. So apparently this will be gone. and visitors won't be allowed to smoke outside. It just seems like some of these people in administration have way too much time on their hands and are so out of touch. Are they going to ban the fatty foods in the cafeteria? You should see the fatty fried stuff they have at night. Yuk!
The saddest case I remember happened a few years ago. I can remember it exactly. My dad had just died a few weeks before. I admitted a lady in her 60's? her only daughter was by her side. The womans husband had just died a few weeks ago from lung cancer r/t smoking. She was being admitted for pnuemonia. Had never really been in the hospital. Found out later she had mets to the brain r/t secondhand smoke. she died within the year. They were good people.
Last edit by frann on Feb 7, '02
Feb 7, '02Frann-
I am very impressed with your hospital, esp since you are in Virgina!
Maybe there is hope after all.
As a side note, I was in a critical care class this week and the lecture was pulmonary functioning. The teacher was going on and on about how, in some places, there are no 02 bars, where people can get hooked up to oxygen and "feel better". She was very concerned about it- since here, 02 is a drug.
My feeling, as long as we are selling cigarettes, who care's about the 02. I guess, worse case, a COPD'er smokes a few and then staggers into the 02 bar...........there goes his incentive to breathe!
Oh well, all kidding aside. Cigarettes kill people. It is a KNOWN CARCINOGEN...... no reasable thinking person can compare them to too many donuts, french fries or whatever else you can dream up.
PLEASE let's all face reality.........cigarettes kill.
Feb 7, '02Yes - JMP I agree.
I'd like to see the study about the correlation between automobiles and cancer.
Feb 7, '02frann-
facilities are getting big money to become smoke free. I am a smoker(and i don't care who knows it) I am a good nurse. I get 2 10 min breaks and a30 min lunch period. I don't like to be away from my job longer that 10 min. I take 5 10 min breaks. So sue me. I think everyone---smoker-nonsmoker deserves breaks. unfortunately the way heath care is going (shortage and all) noone is getting breaks.
Feb 7, '02Mario, we're talking individual habits here. Maybe one person can't do a whole lot about pollution of the environment as a whole, but they certainly can do something about polluting their own bodys with cigarette smoke. Unbelievable is right. Smokers will use anything in defense of their filthy habit. There is hard evidence that smoking causes cancer. Like someone said in the above post, show me the correlation between automobiles and cancer. Unbelievalbe!!
Feb 7, '02Nicotine is the most addictive substance we have available to us. Fortunately, I'm not addicted to smoking. My Mother loved to smoke. She quit four or five times and finally quit for good when she had a hysterectomy in 1969. To the day of her death in 1998, she swore that if she were ever to take one puff, she would be right back to a pack a day. I strongly suspect she would take up a pipe rather than pay the price of a pack of cigarettes nowadays however. I really appreciate considerate smokers. I am appalled at people who think it's okay to dump their ashtrays in the middle of a parking lot or smoke in a restaurant or the house of a nonsmoker. On the other hand, I have a problem with city ordinances banning smoking in bars. We just need to be considerate of one another under any circumstances.
Feb 7, '02Yo Willie - I just want you to know that I respect peoples choice to drive a car everyday. I shouldn't transcend too far in my assertions here, because many folks have no choice but to drive everyday, so it's hardcore for me to suggest they should not. But you can't deny that our American ADDICTION to personal transportation and gasoline has caused Americans to become somewhat bent, and disliked abroad. Again, I don't want to ruffle anyone because many folks would shut down without a car and a gasoline supply. What's this hafta do with smoking? Well, even though something is harmful doesn't mean you hafta be all self-rightous about it. Can't we all get along? I'm not defending smokers; I'm just saying we have bigger fish to fry when it comes to making a positive change in things than to bug out about people who want to smoke cigarettes. From every mountain-side; Let freedom ring!
Feb 8, '02I admit I am a smoker. I also consider myself a considerate one because I smoke outside, not in my house, only with other smoker's, only on my assigned breaks. I will not light up in say a bus shelter where I know my smoke will irritate people.
I am proud to live in a province where smoking is banned from public places, like malls, restaurants and most bars. It is a horrible, filthy habit and I have tried to quit many times. It is an addiction and I can literally feel it in my blood when I haven't had a smoke for awhile. All I can say is my doctor told me that it often takes an average of seven times for most people to quit. Tried patches, gum, accupunture, hypnosis...willpower, and I seem to get sucked back into it, and I hate to say it, but it is usually a bad day at work was the trigger that started me to resume smoking once I have quit. Oh, well. I won't give up, I'll keep trying to quit. By the way, do smoking support groups exist, say like alcoholics anonymous? I don't think I've ever heard of one!
Feb 8, '02oh god how tiresome.
i grow so weary of preaching.
i smoke because I LIKE IT.
I LIKE the way a cigarette tastes.
I LIKE the way they make me feel.
am I stupid..OF COURSE!
why am I paying the tobacco companies to kill me?
because I LIKE THE WAY IT FEELS.
Tell me more about the hazards, I dont know about them. Tell me more of your personal ancedotes, because I have never/heard seen them before.
I WILL STOP WHEN I AM READY..NOT WHEN YOU DECIDE.
AND THE THING THAT MAKES ME THE ANGRIEST ABOUT ALL OF THIS IS THAT NONSMOKERS THINK THEY HAVE THAT RIGHT. WELL YOU DON'T.
Take a look at the binge drinking thread. I said in an earlier post on this topic that drinking would be the next logical choice of the dogooders.
You drinkers better hope that us smokers dont lose our rights any time soon cos mark my words...YOU ARE NEXT.
Mario, I liked the Ted Bundy face much better.
Feb 9, '02We need to be realistic here, people. There ARE inconsiderate smokers and there are non-smokers who LOOK for reasons to bit*h about smokers. I would love nothing more than to wake up tomorrow and there be a ban on the sale of all tobacco products; not likely since the gov't is making a killing (no pun intended) from the sale of these products. Smoking is, to me, kinda like homosexuals say homosexuality is...who in their right mind would CHOOSE either? I smoke because I'm addicted, no other reason. I read about people in their 30's dying of lung ca and it makes me sick in the pit of my stomach, then I light another one. It's a strong addiction, period. No, I have no right to pollute others who made better judgements than me by choosing to never take that first puff, but as long as cigs are legal people WILL smoke and non-smokers will be "offended".
In my many years of riding motorcycles, I've been hit, or nearly hit, by coke bottles, beer bottles, cups, cig butts, CARS, dogs...you name it, it aims for a motorcycle. I don't think it would make much sense to speak of outlawing cola's or cars because of a few inconsiderate idiots.
Smokers SHOULD be considerate (don't smoke in non-smoking areas, in non-smokers houses or where non-smokers are obviously offended by smoke <even in your own home>) and smokers should only gripe when it's a legitimate gripe instead of griping because they resent the habit<don't sit in a smoking section and bit*h and wave your hand around everytime someone lights up>.
Non-smokers fussing and complaining will never make smokers quit smoking, believe me my parents have tried this tactic with me and my siblings for years, it only makes us want another cig. Smokers will never be seen as deserving equal rights because we CHOOSE to smoke and it IS a nasty habit that affects not only us, but those around us.
The best we can do is try to be considerate, regardless of which side of the smoke you're on.