Nurse is a nurse is a nurse - page 4
We really need to do something about the publics understanding of nursing. I'm starting to get really ticked about this and I'm far far from a prideful person. I'm just tired of people not realizing... Read More
May 13, '03Not trying to hijack thread, but I am so intrigued by "Wit". Loved the Prof. Ashford character.....Susie the RN was also very good. At the beginning, I thought that the doc was a jerk and then when the fellow came......more of a jerk! And then, at the end, I realized that it is THEY that are so limited...trying desperately to control destiny...think the fellow referred to faith as a "spiritual construct". It is the docs at the end that are left bereft. The RN and the pt have come to terms and acceptance.....very powerful stuff. Lots of docs that I am privileged to work with share the holistic perspective, but then there are the others.......
In college, I did a paper on the image of nurses. I read the Harlequin romance nursing books and Cherry Ames etc. What is particularly disheartening, to say the least, is the way the image floats above reality and is preferred by most. I think we need to not just speak out against the falsity and work to change it, but also ask ourselves, what purpose does this Teflon stereotype serve our culture? Compare to the "wicked" stepmother image--still pervasive now. Perhaps it served to keep nuclear family intact? Likewise, how does this image of nursing "help" our culture? Does it persist b/c people in general dislike thinking about disease and death and by elevating nurses to a "special" status, it distances them from the harsh reality of disease and death? I mean, if we are perceived as angels of mercy.....angels have no needs (well, human ones anyway).....does anyone see what I'm getting at?
May 13, '03Originally posted by Dayray
It gets worse =( today I had lunch with my fahter in law. He was complaing becuase my mom in law a CNA is being forced to attend classes on weekends. I asked what the classes were for. Seem she is being forced into med certifacation class including hwo to give IM's. Guess where she works? in the hospital on the med surg floor.
I have heard this was coming but dident belive it CNAs are going to give meds in the hospital =( what a scarry thought and what a slap to nurses, a 20 hour course that allows CNAs to do one of the core tasks of med/surg nurses
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I take it that i look nice since I am not frowning like some of our ER nurses.
May 13, '03The hospital here gave the RNs gifts for Nurses' Week and the LPNs and CNAs got nothing! I'm know CNAs are not nurses, but they are an important part of the nursing team and should have been recognized in some way. LPNs are nurses (much to many of our RN's dismay) and we didn't get anything either. It always kind of burns me when I have a patient who asks me if I am an LPN or if I am a real nurse...LOL! LPNs are not RNs and have less training than RNs, but we are still nurses. I hate the Johnson & Johnson commercial about being a nurse...it features all RNs...not an LPN in the bunch!
May 13, '03The hospital I used to work for changed the name badges so that your title was in bold letters and HUGE- I swear you could see it across the room, whether it was MD, RN or LPN- the letters were about an inch high. That really seemed to clear it up for the patients. However, it did look a little kindergarten-ish...
May 13, '03liberalrn I think Understand what your trying to say. I agree if im getting you right. I went into nursing to serve people not get glory and its shoudlent bother me so much that people don't relize the training and work that go into nursing. I guess pride pops up on all of us somtimes.
Now that I've had a few days to calm down I see that for every comment I listed in my original post, I hear at least a hundered nice things from patients and doctors and get lots of thanks (that Im not really seeking).
As for the teflon image - (if im following you) I think its a good thing. One of a nurses biggest jobs is to comfort and that image helps with that. It's kinda funny though beign that Im a man hehe, although I like the image of nurses as careing and compastionet I still can't reconcile the hat they wore in those types of books lol
Oh and as for the CNA med thing I live in Colorado, I remeber reading somthing about the BON approving CNAs for med administraion in acute care- about a year ago. I had forgetten about it until I talked with my fatehr in law so I don't remeber the specifics. I have to talk to my mother in law and find out what really is going on. I would hope he is mistaken. allthough the skill of giving injections isent that complecated there is allot more then that that goes into it as you all know.
May 14, '03oh, no! You read me almost completely wrong!!!! I do NOT like or approve of our "selfless, angel of mercy" image--it is truly a death sentence to people. The Teflon reference was looking at this static image that will NOT die.......no matter what. I think the worst thing that can happen to anybody is to be asked everyday to have no needs, to put others primary at all times and to smile all the while. The BEST interactions I have had w/ pts is when we can connect on a personal basis--and in these PC times, that statement seems fraught w/ inappropriate sentiment. It's not. To share a joke w/ a pt; to share an interest conversationally.......these pts just bloom---afterall, we are sticking them into a box too. They have to wear certain clothes and we don't let them walk even if they can, we only focus on their illness etc. They are as trapped as we are. Please, I was trying to express a theory and my frustration w/ this image stuff--in no way was I sanctioning it!
May 14, '03We have a CNA who tries to pass herself off as a nurse. She has psych issues and has been "talked to" by the nursing supervisor on more than one occasion. She is constantly convincing patients that there is something wrong with their IV sites (really? I see no evidence of warmth, redness, edema, coolness, pallor at the site). She has plenty of time to chat with the patients because she neglects to do the blood sugars, vitals, beds and baths that she is assigned. So the patients like her and ask for "that nice nurse-(her name)."
Burns me up.
May 14, '03I think we have a few nurse masqueraders here in OUR midst. One of the clues may well be when they say things like "There's really not that much to giving an injection. "
Just a thought.
May 17, '03I am so glad someone brought this up. My sister-in-law once worked as a medical assistant (not even certified) and gave shots and yada yada. She has on more than one occasion commented that she used to be a nurse. It burns me up to hear her say this and she believes that she was a nurse because that is what the md referred to her as!! I also went to high school with this girl and she barely graduated, much less attended college. I think I will print this whole thread and show it to her, or maybe just refer her to the allnurses website! I have needed to vent this for a long time...my husband doesnt understand why it upsets me so. This IS a legal issue, the Nurse Practice Act states that no one can refer to themselves as "nurse" unless they are a registered or licensed nurse!
May 17, '03[QUOTE]Originally posted by nursebucky
[B]I understand your vent, but as a Phlebo working through nursing school, I am almost always mistaken for the nurse...
Sounds to me like you are awful big for your britches considering you havent even started your nursing program yet!!! I recommend you knock it down a few notches or you will have a hard row to hoe with that attitude
May 17, '03We need more companies like Johnson & Johnson who will make commercials recognizing the nursing profession, but the ads ran too infrequently and not for long enough.
And yes, doctors do need to stop saying "the nurse" when they in fact DO NOT have one. The MA/CNA needs to stop letting people call them nurses!! If there is one RN/LPN who values their profession in that place, he/she has to speak up loudly and often as to this person's title!!!
So what if you p---off someone??? I used to do it around the PA's that were called dr's!! In the other vein, I do it for the ARNP's when they are called nurses. They deserve their props too!
May 17, '03Uh-oh!!!
I just read more the letters about J&J; I was an LPN and in my mind, I think of nurses as nurses, we the LPN's AND RN's...the LPN's I work with in the NICU and in my old Dialysis unit are and were the very BEST!!! Some of them were more worthy of being called nursing professionals than some RN's I have worked with, then AND now!!!
And when I was one, so was I!!!